Prince of Wales becomes oldest heir to the Throne for 300 years

[hunboldt]

Nah. There was nowhere near a revolution in Britain in the early nineteenth century, apart from the odd little outburst of violence by left wing troublemakers like the Luddites. No violent political revolution has occurred in Britain since the civil wars of the 1640s and 1650s, which was an anti-absolute monarchy revolution which saw the execution of a monarch 150 years BEFORE the French Revolution.

There was no need to be a revolution in Britain. Unlike the Frenchies and their other continental neighbours, the British were a free people who, unlike the French, had long got rid of their feudal system and their Absolute Monarchy. In 1819 the British Bill of Rights was 130 years' old.

Britain was impervious to revolutionary change in the early 1800s. Though every other aspect of British life in the 19th century was transformed by industrial, social and cultural development, the country's rulers seemed somehow to avoid the mistakes of their continental counterparts. When Britain was at the peak of her imperial power at the end of the 19th century, historians charted the country's rise to greatness over the preceding hundred years or so. They were inclined to stress British genius for avoiding fundamental conflict between classes and social groups, and the country's ability to manage evolutionary, rather than revolutionary, political change.

Nice satire, Alf...

 

[Sal]

Hey, Sal nothing wrong with a woman "wearing the pants", it's just that there is something wrong with a man who lets her get away with it. - - - (I'm ducking).

you'd best duck ya brat. :lol:

For some people, if a woman holds any power, it is plain and simply, because she is female. Not because she is, in fact, intelligent, a partner to that man, etc. If a man defers to a woman in any way shape or form, it's based on sex, not equality. Some people can't get past the 'gender war' mentality. It's a shame. It makes them small.

I do think the stigma still applies at times. I do not believe we are quite out of the cave yet and any attempt to place us back in that subordinate role seems to set me off even when it is not meant that way or is a joke. I was brought up by parents who lived out WWII. I did not know women were not equal until I moved out of the house.

Looking back on it now I can see my parents shared responsibility within the home to a large degree but the greater burden was still on the female.

There are many countries in the world where women are not so lucky as we are here. Thus, I do tend to be a tad reactive.

I only wine a dine a woman if she pays half of the bill.

so you don't wine and dine a woman at all, you choose to share a meal with her

that's fine as long as your salaries are equal, if unequal the higher wage earner should pay a larger portion of the bill once it is established who can best afford to do so....

that my friend is equal

 

[gerryh]

that's fine as long as your salaries are equal, if unequal the higher wage earner should pay a larger portion of the bill once it is established who can best afford to do so....

that my friend is equal

really, so by extension, everyone should have their food/utilities/rent/motgage/etc subsidized that are not at the top of the earning curve. Or does this only apply to women?

 

[JLM]

you'd best duck ya brat. :lol:

Don't worry, I won't be taking my eye off you for a minute! -

 

[Sal]

really, so by extension, everyone should have their food/utilities/rent/motgage/etc subsidized that are not at the top of the earning curve. Or does this only apply to women?

no it means if someone asks another out and discusses sharing the cost of the meal then we share
otherwise if i ask you out, i pay
if you ask me out you pay

after we do that a number of times because we find that we enjoy each other's company, usually jobs are discussed and finances as well...if I want to spend time with you because i really like you, I would offer to pay either a larger portion of the tab or pay more often especially if we choose to go to expensive places or perhaps one of us would choose to pay the majority of times

i do not think the burden should always be upon the man, these days women make good money, when i was working in business I would sometimes make more than my male date, now I am working in admin my guy makes over 4x what I make, he always pays except when it is his birthday or I am doing something special for him to thank him

 

[JLM]

no it means if someone asks another out and discusses sharing the cost of the meal then we share
otherwise if i ask you out, i pay
if you ask me out you pay

after we do that a number of times because we find that we enjoy each other's company, usually jobs are discussed and finances as well...if I want to spend time with you because i really like you, I would offer to pay either a larger portion of the tab or pay more often especially if we choose to go to expensive places or perhaps one of us would choose to pay the majority of times

i do not think the burden should always be upon the man, these days women make good money, when i was working in business I would sometimes make more than my male date, now I am working in admin my guy makes over 4x what I make, he always pays except when it is his birthday or I am doing something special for him to thank him

Makes perfect sense to me, Sal.

 

[gerryh]

no it means if someone asks another out and discusses sharing the cost of the meal then we share
otherwise if i ask you out, i pay
if you ask me out you pay

after we do that a number of times because we find that we enjoy each other's company, usually jobs are discussed and finances as well...if I want to spend time with you because i really like you, I would offer to pay either a larger portion of the tab or pay more often especially if we choose to go to expensive places or perhaps one of us would choose to pay the majority of times

i do not think the burden should always be upon the man, these days women make good money, when i was working in business I would sometimes make more than my male date, now I am working in admin my guy makes over 4x what I make, he always pays except when it is his birthday or I am doing something special for him to thank him

Makes perfect sense to me, Sal.

For me it doesn't.


The guy pays....period.

 

[PoliticalNick]

I only wine a dine a woman if she pays half of the bill.

Well that says a lot about you :roll:

Good post but don't forget thatr this is 'online'.

On line I'm 6 ft 6" built like Achilles, richer than the boss of Microsoft, and - 21 years old...

WOW....you too? ;-)

 

[hunboldt]

Well that says a lot about you :roll:

I'm afraid the 'ultimate online male ' is having one of his weeks again , Nick...:lol:. that said, I worked for a major corp . where the company had a policy in place that the 'senior person picked up the tab' for shared cabs , etc. My experience was that the recently promoted women ( we were accelerating their promotion ) had the bad habit of bolting from the cab and leaving the token man to pay the bill, regardless of 'rank'.

Looked better on their expense accounts- but kind of labelled them as 'the Chickies'. Pretty soon ,cabs form the airport ended up rather semi - segregated".

 

[karrie]

Looking back on it now I can see my parents shared responsibility within the home to a large degree but the greater burden was still on the female.

I'm sure my kids must see our life that way.... because they don't see what hubby does all day at work, just me at home working.

 

[PoliticalNick]

no it means if someone asks another out and discusses sharing the cost of the meal then we share
otherwise if i ask you out, i pay
if you ask me out you pay

after we do that a number of times because we find that we enjoy each other's company, usually jobs are discussed and finances as well...if I want to spend time with you because i really like you, I would offer to pay either a larger portion of the tab or pay more often especially if we choose to go to expensive places or perhaps one of us would choose to pay the majority of times

i do not think the burden should always be upon the man, these days women make good money, when i was working in business I would sometimes make more than my male date, now I am working in admin my guy makes over 4x what I make, he always pays except when it is his birthday or I am doing something special for him to thank him

Sounds a lot like what happened when I started dating my current partner. Now we are common-law and have a good system. We both make good money so we split the bills based on our percentage of total income. Right now it is 55% me and 45% her. The money left is hers or mine respectively. If I decide I want to go out or order in I pay, if she decides she pays. Same for activities, the one who wants to go out to a movie springs for the show. It is a system where we both contribute to the upkeep of the household and are both left with plenty of money to do what we please or treat our partner to a night out or a meal. Nobody is left feeling like they are dependent on the other person.

 

[gerryh]

My wife and I will have been married 25 years this Christmas. At no time since we've been together have we ever "split the bills". ALL money went into the pot and bills have been payed from that. It has always been "our" money and has never been "mine".

 

[Sal]

Sounds a lot like what happened when I started dating my current partner. Now we are common-law and have a good system. We both make good money so we split the bills based on our percentage of total income. Right now it is 55% me and 45% her. The money left is hers or mine respectively. If I decide I want to go out or order in I pay, if she decides she pays. Same for activities, the one who wants to go out to a movie springs for the show. It is a system where we both contribute to the upkeep of the household and are both left with plenty of money to do what we please or treat our partner to a night out or a meal. Nobody is left feeling like they are dependent on the other person.

Agreed.
I have found over the years that it keeps things honest and equal. When my guy tried out a new job earlier this year he was making way less money. I had to ramp up my contribution. We didn't even talk about it, when the flow is right there's no need. It just happens. Now he went back to his old job and I quit pulling out my debit card at the end of the meal.

 

[hunboldt]

The British colonists in North America were hardly any different in being taxed without being represented in parliament.

Most Britons back at home had the same predicament.

Alf, the concern was that 'commodity taxation' with punitive measures was not enforceable. Ben Franklyn suggested , strongly, that representation in parliament be arranged for each Colony. However, the Colonies had a 'broad democracy' which the Pomms were trying to avoid.

The Colonies were well aware that the 'London tea Auction ' was a thinly disguised bribe for the East India monopoly. They weren't stupid.

You appear to be unaware of the history of your Parliament's 'pocket' and Rotten ' boroughs.:lol:

 

[spaminator]

My wife and I will have been married 25 years this Christmas. At no time since we've been together have we ever "split the bills". ALL money went into the pot and bills have been payed from that. It has always been "our" money and has never been "mine".

 

[karrie]

Hubby and I have been married 15 years, and will have been together for a whopping 20 this winter. We have done what works for us, no more, no less.

I was in highschool when we started dating, and he had a job on the rigs.... I never paid for a thing other than gifts for him.

Leaving highschool I moved straight in with him, and we proceeded to build a house, get married, have kids. Everything was 'ours'. Neither of us has had our 'own' bank account for 16+ years.

But, that's a system that doesn't work for a lot of people. There are concerns about independence, pride in being fiscally capable, and just habits born of having done it on your own. I never ever have 'done it on my own'.

What works is what works.

 

[gerryh]

But, that's a system that doesn't work for a lot of people. There are concerns about independence, pride in being fiscally capable, and just habits born of having done it on your own. I never ever have 'done it on my own'.

Ya, I imagine for those that are insecure, that would be a concern.

 

[spaminator]

Hubby and I have been married 15 years, and will have been together for a whopping 20 this winter. We have done what works for us, no more, no less.

I was in highschool when we started dating, and he had a job on the rigs.... I never paid for a thing other than gifts for him.

Leaving highschool I moved straight in with him, and we proceeded to build a house, get married, have kids. Everything was 'ours'. Neither of us has had our 'own' bank account for 16+ years.

But, that's a system that doesn't work for a lot of people. There are concerns about independence, pride in being fiscally capable, and just habits born of having done it on your own. I never ever have 'done it on my own'.

What works is what works.

congrats to you as well.

 

[karrie]

Ya, I imagine for those that are insecure, that would be a concern.

I'm sure there are some who are insecure. I'm also sure there are some who are just independent.

congrats to you as well.

hmmmm... really? In another thread you said that our relationship never should have been allowed. might want to rethink the congrats.

 

[hunboldt]

According to http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/porphyria/DS00955/DSECTION=symptoms there are two kinds of porphyrias. One is Acute porphyrias. Symptoms include forms of the disease that cause predominantly nervous system symptoms and, in some cases, skin symptoms, as well. Acute porphyria attacks are rare before puberty and after menopause in women. Signs and symptoms may last one to two weeks.

The other is Cutaneous porphyrias. Symptoms include forms of the disease that cause skin symptoms as a result of oversensitivity to sunlight, but don't affect your nervous system. Some forms of cutaneous porphyria begin to show signs and symptoms during infancy or childhood.

Neither of these refer to the symptoms reported of George III.





Amen.


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Actually, KG III showed signs of Manic behavior in his youth. Unfortunately, he lacked his grandfather's good sense to find good prime ministers and let them effectively run the country. Lord North was a 'duster', although a 'favorite'.