Pope Says Gay Marriage Poses A Threat To 'Justice And Peace'

coldstream

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That is one hell of a conspiracy theory ya got there: paranoid ravings of a deluded nature. Yup, the gays tried to take over the church so they could abuse kids! Priests, boy scout leaders, hockey coatches, etc have been molesting children for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. There is no gay conspiracy.

What ever it is you are ingesting, may I suggest you stop. It is rotting your soul with hatred.


It's certainly not Marijuana, Cliffy. Maybe its the Holy Eucharist that gives me these delusions. I'm hardly a weekly communicant.. but at least i'm an occasional communicant.. and when i can with the Tridentine Latin Mass.. which provides the authentic latin liturgy.. away from the disordering instrument of modern vernacular Mass (Novus Ordo).. which is the most insipid of clones.. and imho is in part responsible for the influx of homosexual predators and frauds into Holy Orders.. by way of venting its mysticism and reverence.

Homosexuality and child abuse have been with us from the beginning of time.. but only in periods of societies in deep decline.. racked with confusion and pessimism is it elevated to the rank of normalcy, even the highest standard accorded to any group of our politically correct society.. that of victim.. due special protection and veneration.

That is Benedict's point.. we are willingly de-constructing the moral parameters and institutions on which our society is founded.. accepting all actions as corresponding only to relative ideas of gratification (now stipulated as a 'human right').. and none to an absolute sense of Good and Evil.. or right and wrong. That will eat up and destroy any civilization.. economically, scientifically and in terms of lawful social order and peace. The alternative is chaos... of warring gangs.. of misery and addiction.. and rampant predation.. Essentially the ethos of the ghetto.. 'gay' or otherwise.

I suggest you get off the weed, Cliffy.. its affecting your ability to reason coherently.

Yep.

roflmao Thanks for the laugh and a half, CS.
BTW, where did you dig up the stats "96% of Catholic priest are authentically celibate... It is the other and fraudulent 4%"?

In the West, 4 - 6% of Catholic priests have at some point in their ministries been involved with pederasty (which in more truly associated with homosexuality than pedophilia). That comes from in depth studies done by the Church investigating the abuse scandals.Those range from singular events to habitual conduct. In the Eastern and Oriental Rites it is much less common, as there are much stronger social prohibitions against homosexuality in these cultures.

If your point is there are priests involved with adult sexual encounters.. of course there are... and since these are normally only admitted to in the confessional, there's no way of knowing how prevalent it is. You can probably use a rule of thumb that in any demographic 80% of the people will be honest and genuine in their vocations and vows.... 20% will be disingenuous and exploitive.
 
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L Gilbert

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It's certainly not Marijuana, Cliffy. Maybe its the Holy Eucharist that gives me these delusions. I'm hardly a weekly communicant.. but at least i'm an occaisional communicant.. and when i can with the Tridentine Latin Mass.. which provides the authentic latin liturgy.. away from the disordering instrument of modern vernacular Mass (Novus Ordo).. which is the most insipid of clones.. and imho is in part responsible for the influx of homosexual predators and frauds into Holy Orders.

Homosexuality and child have been with us from the beginning of time.. but only in periods of society's in deep decline.. racked with confusion and pessimism is it elevated to the rank of normalcy, even the highest standard accorded to any group of our politically correct society.. that of victim.. due special protection and reverence.

I suggest you get off the weed, Cliffy.. its affecting your ability to reason coherently.
In case you haven't noticed, human societies rise and decline regularly and have been doing that since the first thought of societies popped out of the human imagination. BTW, "child" has been around since before that and likely, so has homosexuality. The tendency of a human to become emotionally, sexually, and otherwise attracted to another human being is perfectly natural. The gender is irrelevant to any but those who are conned into believing their preference of dogma and rhetoric that's been made available by certain religions and other institutions.
What's more, is that we have the genetic ability to enjoy loving others, having sex, having fun, and whatever other activities we engage in. There's nothing unnatural about that. What is unnatural is the dohma and rhetoric. That's purely synthetic.

So, where did you get those stats from?
 

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God made weed. Man made your sacramental wine. Jus' sayin'....
God created forests, man created churches: where do you think god would prefer to dwell?

It's certainly not Marijuana, Cliffy.

I suggest you get off the weed, Cliffy.. its affecting your ability to reason coherently.
i don't smoke weed. I'm very coherent. It is you who is prone to hateful and delusional rants.