Poll: Are You Happy With Trudeau?

[Dixie Cup]

I wasn't happy with Harper and his social conservative vision to start with
I wasn't happy with the program direction he lad out and the only thing I
approved of was keeping the Jets flying in the Middle East except I think
we should be bombing all targets including the Muslim rebels against
the Syrian Government and the reason is they are Terrorists backed by
other states in the region.
Other than that i don't mind Trudeau for the most part he is not Harper and
that is the first plus. Now if we actually engage in representation by anything
other than first past the post that is beyond rhetoric I will be a little ticked

Dixie Cup Progressive has many terms I agree with bringing people in
the main stream together and I agree with keeping the right wing out of
office

Well see what we have here? We agree to disagree and neither one of us has called each other a name. That is what is called discourse and debate. I happen to agree with the first part of your last line and disagree with the latter part. Liberals don't know squat about either as far as I'm concerned.


So, having said that, what "kind" of "Progressive" do you consider yourself because believe me, Political Correctness has changed the meaning of the word to suit themselves. Simply saying you want to ensure the "social conservative" is no longer in power isn't sufficient reason for me.


While I didn't agree with everything Harper did, he was, in my estimation, one of the best PM's we've had in a while. Just because he wasn't "Trudeau-like" isn't a good enough reason, (in my estimation) to "hate" (which is a really strong word) him. I could accept dislike - like I really, really, really, dislike Trudeau but I hate no one. I may hate what they stand for but not the person itself (although Trudeau is likely the closest I've gotten).


Now, the liberals are reversing every damn good thing that the Conservatives have done that actually make sense and their justification seems to be because the conservatives brought it in. Well, my feeling is that the conservatives were using common sense but I guess that's out the door.


I didn't agree with Harper insofar as his treatment of the media but I can certainly understand why. When elected, he received the most votes and the media were immediately not on side with him. He didn't make things any better by avoiding them. The same with not attending the First Ministers meetings with the provinces - I didn't agree with him doing that either. So there were some things I didn't agree with. But, for the most part, he did institute some rules and regulations that were good for the entire country which is now what the liberals are undoing - some of which are sending a dangerous message. Trudeau is such a light weight and I'm pretty sure he's not calling all the shots - I don't believe Canadians even know who is and that in and of itself is dangerous.


Anyhoo.....JMHO

 

[JLM]

Well see what we have here? We agree to disagree and neither one of us has called each other a name. That is what is called discourse and debate. I happen to agree with the first part of your last line and disagree with the latter part. Liberals don't know squat about either as far as I'm concerned.

Very good post, Dixie. Never could understand why people have to be abusive over simple differences of opinion. Some even go as far as creating enemies over it. Of course there's a few issues like maybe three or four that are totally reprehensible, but still we are only dealing with words and ideas, not acts. A person can still voice his/her horror, disbelief etc. w/o lowering themselves to the other persons level. Having said that occasionally I "lose it" too, but it doesn't mean I agree with it.

I was really taken aback when I read that the government and the opposition granted themselves a nice little pay raise to help with office costs.

It's a matter that I've struggled with and I suppose it differs from one M.P./M.L.A. to the next and that is the matter of fair payment. Realistically I believe there are very few if any who get to work a 40 hour week......(yes I know they were aware of this when they "signed up") I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that some of them work a 60-70 hour week addressing constituents concerns and I think there should be some remuneration for that. I would also agree that for four years they are missing out on some aspects of family life and I think there should be some compensation for that.

 

[pgs]

Very good post, Dixie. Never could understand why people have to be abusive over simple differences of opinion. Some even go as far as creating enemies over it. Of course there's a few issues like maybe three or four that are totally reprehensible, but still we are only dealing with words and ideas, not acts. A person can still voice his/her horror, disbelief etc. w/o lowering themselves to the other persons level. Having said that occasionally I "lose it" too, but it doesn't mean I agree with it.




It's a matter that I've struggled with and I suppose it differs from one M.P./M.L.A. to the next and that is the matter of fair payment. Realistically I believe there are very few if any who get to work a 40 hour week......(yes I know they were aware of this when they "signed up") I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that some of them work a 60-70 hour week addressing constituents concerns and I think there should be some remuneration for that. I would also agree that for four years they are missing out on some aspects of family life and I think there should be some compensation for that.

There is compensation for them missing out on family time .
It is called a damn good salary with an excellent pension plan .
As far as office budgets go , If we want our MP's to cut waste they should start with themselves first.

Oh yeah this government is not about cutting waste it is about creating waste .

 

[JLM]

It is called a damn good salary with an excellent pension plan .

What does their salary boil down to in terms of $s paid per hour worked? Yeah, the pension plan is more than generous BUT there's two conditions...................they have to last in the position (very precarious in politics) long enough to qualify for it and secondly they have to live long enough to collect it. I personally, wouldn't consider a job in politics for what they get out of it. (That is not saying I think most of them are worth what they get out of it) Duffy, Wallin and Brazeau come to mind.
Oh & Trudeau!

 

[pgs]

What does their salary boil down to in terms of $s paid per hour worked? Yeah, the pension plan is more than generous BUT there's two conditions...................they have to last in the position (very precarious in politics) long enough to qualify for it and secondly they have to live long enough to collect it. I personally, wouldn't consider a job in politics for what they get out of it. (That is not saying I think most of them are worth what they get out of it) Duffy, Wallin and Brazeau come to mind.
Oh & Trudeau!

But they are all well aware of the salary and the demands of the job before they go on the stump .

 

[JLM]

But they are all well aware of the salary and the demands of the job before they go on the stump .

The salary probably, as far as the demands go you have to "live" it for awhile first - like how often do these guys get phoned by drunks at 3 A.M.? Or even at 3 P.M.?

 

[petros]

You understand the difference between an MP's office budget, and their salary, yes?

Yes, the MP's kid working at their office gets the raise and gets a trip to the brick to redecorate.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Am I happy with Trudeau? I didn't vote for him but he hasn't been in office long enough for me to object to any of his policies. I'll give it a year before I start emailing the PMO.

 

[JLM]

With the exception of all the refugees he hasn't done much harm so far. Hope he can endure a sharp learning curve. He's still pretty gullible!

 

[davesmom]

I think Trudeau is between a rock and a hard place. The powers behind the Liberal Party (those who were too smart to run for leadership themselves) needed a mouthpiece to promote their agenda. So they picked Trudeau, the guy with lots of money, a famous name, a pretty face and a huge ego. Trudeau is their shill; I doubt if he is smart enough to realize that as he basks in the publicity and photo ops.


Now Trudeau is caught between delivering the message for the Liberal Party and public opinion. Oh well, 'pride goeth before a fall', as the Good Book says. Thinking too highly of oneself doesn't usually end well.

 

[pgs]

The salary probably, as far as the demands go you have to "live" it for awhile first - like how often do these guys get phoned by drunks at 3 A.M.? Or even at 3 P.M.?

I don't know , I have never personally called a politician any time drunk or sober .
But neither do I care , they asked for the job .

 

[JLM]

I think Trudeau is between a rock and a hard place. The powers behind the Liberal Party (those who were too smart to run for leadership themselves) needed a mouthpiece to promote their agenda. So they picked Trudeau, the guy with lots of money, a famous name, a pretty face and a huge ego. Trudeau is their shill; I doubt if he is smart enough to realize that as he basks in the publicity and photo ops.


Now Trudeau is caught between delivering the message for the Liberal Party and public opinion. Oh well, 'pride goeth before a fall', as the Good Book says. Thinking too highly of oneself doesn't usually end well.

Yep, a little humility is definitely as asset (as Trump and Hillary may soon find out)

 

[gerryh]

I think Trudeau is between a rock and a hard place. The powers behind the Liberal Party (those who were too smart to run for leadership themselves) needed a mouthpiece to promote their agenda. So they picked Trudeau, the guy with lots of money, a famous name, a pretty face and a huge ego. Trudeau is their shill; I doubt if he is smart enough to realize that as he basks in the publicity and photo ops.


Now Trudeau is caught between delivering the message for the Liberal Party and public opinion. Oh well, 'pride goeth before a fall', as the Good Book says. Thinking too highly of oneself doesn't usually end well.

So, let me get this straight. It's all about the backroom boys and not Trudeau at all. Contrary to what many have been spouting about his Father and how he is no different and he will ruin Canada like his Father did.

I'm thinking we are going to need a program with all the "different" scenarios concerning the how's and whys of Justin wrecking this country. Or are we just seeing all the batshyte crazy's coming out and spouting all their conspiracy theories?

Yes, the MP's kid working at their office gets the raise and gets a trip to the brick to redecorate.

I'm curious. How many MP's have their kid working for them in their Commons office, or are you talking out of your a$$, as usual?

 

[darkbeaver]

The country was ruined before the election took place. None of the present or past political operatives could have done a damn thing to stop the economic disaster now unfolding. Don't argue it's totally fukked and nothing and nobody can put Humpty back together, ever.

 

[gerryh]

The country was ruined before the election took place. None of the present or past political operatives could have done a damn thing to stop the economic disaster now unfolding. Don't argue it's totally fukked and nothing and nobody can put Humpty back together, ever.

Oh ya, we know, the sky is falling. Got it.

 

[darkbeaver]

Oh ya, we know, the sky is falling. Got it.

That's dismissive of sound economic data gerryh. The truth is there is no way out of the global economic disaster except global war. Treudeau will lead us into many glorious battles to save the filthy rich. Down is the direction to get used to.

 

[petros]

I'm curious. How many MP's have their kid working for them in their Commons office, or are you talking out of your a$$, as usual?

Gerry Gerry Gerry... Tis you who is the beloved forum as$ talker...
Tory MPs have colleagues' kin on payroll

So, let me get this straight. It's all about the backroom boys and not Trudeau at all. Contrary to what many have been spouting about his Father and how he is no different and he will ruin Canada like his Father did.

I'm thinking we are going to need a program with all the "different" scenarios concerning the how's and whys of Justin wrecking this country. Or are we just seeing all the batshyte crazy's coming out and spouting all their conspiracy theories.

It's no conspiracy Ralph Goodale was the preferred choice as Liberal leader but he doesn't want the job of PM so we have Justin.

These are the people you voted for and you know nothing of the Party inner workings?

Why did you bother voting?

 

[gerryh]

These are the people you voted for and you know nothing of the Party inner workings?

Why did you bother voting?

I did? WOW! That's news to me. How the hell could I have not known that I voted Liberal this last election? Especially since I have voted Liberal most of my life. Why would I think I voted for Jason Kenney? Oh ya, BECAUSE I VOTED FOR JASON KENNEY, dumb a$$.


I guess this does pretty much prove that you talk out of your a$$.

Gerry Gerry Gerry... Tis you who is the beloved forum as$ talker...
Tory MPs have colleagues' kin on payroll

So it's the Tory's, not the Libs or NDP. Good to know for next election.

 

[JLM]

I guess this does pretty much prove that you talk out of your a$$.

ROTFFLMFAO- So says the guy who talks out of his A$$ more than anyone. Quit the f**king histrionics Ger. Just tell the guy you disagree with him/her and quit the crap.

 

[gerryh]

ROTFFLMFAO- So says the guy who talks out of his A$$ more than anyone. Quit the f**king histrionics Ger. Just tell the guy you disagree with him/her and quit the crap.

Fu ck off, old man. Go drink your prune juice and stick to things your brain can still handle. Like where you left your teeth.