Pissed! Surveillance camera video of firebomb attack

[Colpy]

I googled his name and read the full story. Try it and read reallllllly slowly and use a dictionary if you hit any big words.

He made an effort to protect home by shooting at the fire?

Read close:

And both you and he are supposed to be instructors? **** that!

Excuse me?

Perhaps you are the one requiring some courses in Reading Comprehension.........NOWHERE in that article does it even mention an automobile.

If you are stupid enough to run around with a fire extinguisher putting out molotov cocktails while your enemies are still throwing them, you will richly deserve your Darwin Award. I will even nominate you.

And yes, I've been an instructor, of the Canadian Firearms Safety Course, and a firearms instructor for armoured car guards, and currently I spend some of my time instructing unarmed guards in self-defense law.

That's why I know what I'm talking about, and you don't.

It's called self-defense... the fire was a threat so what better way to defend oneself than to shoot at it?

LOL...

Okay, that is two of you singing the same tune out of the Songbook for Idiots.

The guys THROWING the molotov cocktails were the threat.

GEEZUS!

It's like if someone where shooting at your house, you guys would expect the target to catch the bullets, because they are, after all, the threat.

Idiocy.

 

[petros]

Auto-erotic paranoid schizophrenics who ejaculate their steel penis into the night sky need to be locked up for the safety of the public.

 

[Colpy]

Auto-erotic paranoid schizophrenics who ejaculate their steel penis into the night sky need to be locked up for the safety of the public.

Ummm...I won't be visiting you.....

 

[DaSleeper]

It does mention an automobile but no mention of him shooting at it:roll:

Police said no one was injured in the shooting and the attackers got into a car and sped off. They charged Randy Weaver, 48, of Port Colborne, and Justin Lee, 19, of Welland, with arson in December, alleging the men and a third suspect “intentionally set the home on fire while the homeowner was inside.”



Read more: Man faces jail after protecting home from masked attackers | Features | National Post

Colpy: some people see what they want to see

 

[petros]

Excuse me?

Perhaps you are the one requiring some courses in Reading Comprehension.........NOWHERE in that article does it even mention an automobile.

I told you to read reallllly slowly but you didn't....

Police said no one was injured in the shooting and the attackers got into a car and sped off. They charged Randy Weaver, 48, of Port Colborne, and Justin Lee, 19, of Welland, with arson in December, alleging the men and a third suspect “intentionally set the home on fire while the homeowner was inside.”​

Read more: Man faces jail after protecting home from masked attackers | Features | National Post​

 

[cdn_bc_ca]

Okay, that is two of you singing the same tune out of the Songbook for Idiots.

The guys THROWING the molotov cocktails were the threat.

GEEZUS!

What about the chicken?

 

[DaSleeper]

I told you to read reallllly slowly but you didn't....

And where does it say he shot at the bloody car...

 

[petros]

So why exactly did a man who claims to be "quiet and keeps to himself" get fire bombed?

And where does it say he shot at the bloody car...

The car that didn't exist and the guy who didn't run out in his underwear firing into the night sky until the OP re-read what he posted after how many ****ing weeks?

Like I said, I read more than just one article. Did you?

 

[DaSleeper]

So why exactly did a man who claims to be "quiet and keeps to himself" get fire bombed?

The car that didn't exists and the guy who didn't run out in his underwear firing intot he night sky until the OP re-read what he posted after how many ****ing weeks?

You answer my question first.....You are now acting like Avro:lol:

 

[petros]

Did you read the other articles available yet sleepy guy?

 

[DaSleeper]

Did you read the other articles available yet sleepy guy?

You're the one who made the statement about him shooting at a car....You back it up!

The police don't go running around in their underwear firing wildly into the sky do they Colpy? And firing at a car driving away isn't self defense.
If he wanted to defend himself and his property he would have grabbed a fire extinguisher. It's legal to fire one of those off all you want.

That's a geat idea Colpy then he'd be up for manslaughter charges and not a danger to the public for the next 10 years.

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[petros]

You're the one who made the statement about him shooting at a car....You back it up!

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And continue to be the only one with a grasp on this? Why cheat yourself sleepy guy?

 

[DaSleeper]

And contiinhue to be the only one with a grasp on this? Why cheat yourself sleepy guy?

Yes or no? If you say no I will put you on ignore forever.

And I thought you were gonna use that line on me....that was used on you a while back, in December...

 

[Unforgiven]

What Colpy and DaS are missing it seems is that he fired into the air. I expect Colpy is right in that if he fired center mass he would not have been charged with reckless discharge of a firearm. He fired into the air and in so doing, technically put anyone who may have been in range of those two or three rounds in mortal danger. That is what he is charged with. After the fire bombers fled, he reentered his house which I expect was not burnt down and extinguished any fire that was still burning. Called 911 and then loaded up other firearms and left them unattended around the house. Two counts of this I think.

There is good reason behind both charges of reckless discharge and improper storage. Anyone who owns a gun know you can't leave a loaded gun laying around. It's dangerous.

Now this guy can throw himself on the mercy of the court and have the jury feel for him, or he can spend what ever he likes on a defense which I am sure the lawyer will advise. Either way, I have to agree with the point that he should have shot the guy fire bombing his house. But he shouldn't have fired in the air, and he shouldn't have loaded other weapons and left them laying around.

 

[DaSleeper]

First, I looked up several articles on this attack and also watched the video with the lawyer again and can't seem to find any reference of him firing in the air which even in a rural community might be considered unsafe..
He could have fired in the ground ahead of him for all we know.

Another assumption that is made is that his firearm were not properly stored, when the lawyer said that he took the 38 revolver out of his safe.
Also the careless storage charge could mean anything....even that his 38 was still out for the cops to inspect, It's a very common charge that they throw at people,

 

[petros]

And I thought you were gonna use that line on me....that was used on you a while back, in December...

Why on earth would I do that?

Look it's obvious the OP was never properly read or researched and it has been fun watching some people try to make this guy out to be something more than just another lunatic arrested in his underwear. It's just that this gonch wearing lunatic was arrested for thinking with his steel dick which is out of the norm.

What I really want to know is what did this guy do to piss people off that they'd fire bomb him?

 

[Unforgiven]

First, I looked up several articles on this attack and also watched the video with the lawyer again and can't seem to find any reference of him firing in the air which even in a rural community might be considered unsafe..
He could have fired in the ground ahead of him for all we know.

Another assumption that is made is that his firearm were not properly stored, when the lawyer said that he took the 38 revolver out of his safe.
Also the careless storage charge could mean anything....even that his 38 was still out for the cops to inspect, It's a very common charge that they throw at people,

Well he did fire the gun right or do you also dispute that? Maybe it was into the ground maybe it was into the air maybe it was at the car maybe it was a lot of things. Fact is he was charged and in the jurisdiction where he lives, the Crown Attorney accepted the evidence that he pointed the firearm at someone.

He admitted to firing the gun and so will take the hit for that. Since probably simply brandishing the weapon would have been enough to scare off the attackers. At which point it's no longer self defense.

Also the two counts of improper storage means that he was leaving guns around unattended.
He will also bite it on that I would imagine.

When it comes to sentencing though, I suspect he won't do a day in jail and maybe will lose his license to keep hand guns or other restricted weapons.

 

[petros]

First, I looked up several articles on this attack and also watched the video with the lawyer again and can't seem to find any reference of him firing in the air which even in a rural community might be considered unsafe..
He could have fired in the ground ahead of him for all we know.

Another assumption that is made is that his firearm were not properly stored, when the lawyer said that he took the 38 revolver out of his safe.
Also the careless storage charge could mean anything....even that his 38 was still out for the cops to inspect, It's a very common charge that they throw at people,

If he fired at the people it wouldn't be just a discharging a firearm charge. Properly stored or not If he had time to go to his safe and retrieve and load his weapon but didn't call the FD or police or grab a fire extinguisher then it had nothing to do with protecting himself. At that point he was no longer a victim but an aggressor. Now he will face a judge over being a fool and lose his privledges to weapons for life.

He knew the laws and chose to break them. He did absolutely nothing heroic and put his community at risk.

 

[ironsides]

I would put the fires out after calling the police and FD. They were on video. That's far better than eye for an eye.

No. Firing at someone who is driving away is not defending myself and leaving my house and property to burn is not something I'd do.

How about if there driving straight at you, would you be them pass or tap tap em. Looked like thy got little pissed at their boss and were burning his stuff.

 

[petros]

How about if there driving straight at you, would you be them pass or tap tap em. Looked like thy got little pissed at their boss and were burning his stuff.

I'd get my ass out of the way. I'm not about to take a life and lose my freedom regardless of what they did to my house.