Pissed! Surveillance camera video of firebomb attack

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The charging of Mr. Thomson clearly shows the total disconnect between elite thinking and that of ordinary Canadians. Our police, prosecutors, politicians and bureaucrats no longer see themselves as our servants, rather they view the public as a threat to the peace almost equal to that of criminals. They are no longer a part of “us” in “us versus them.” Indeed, at least when it comes to self-defence, officialdom sees law-abiding citizens as as much of a disruption as gun- and knife-wielding thugs.
A generation ago, it would never have occurred to Niagara, Ont. police to charge Ian Thomson. Indeed, they may even have given him a pat on the back for acting courageously under fire and for helping them deal with some baddies. But after 40 years of political correctness, of sociological tripe about criminals as victims of poor upbringings and theories about how lenient sentences encourage criminals to rehabilitate rather than reoffend, police and Crown prosecutors have now convinced themselves that an armed civilian is as much of a threat to community safety as an armed robber or attempted murderer.
Lorne Gunter: Opposing self-defence means opposing democracy itself | Full Comment | National Post

HEAR! HEAR!

Nobody hates the people more than those on the left..........yep, those that swear their entire political philosophy is dedicated to the creation of a society of peace, harmony, well-being, equality, and justice for all absolutely DESPISE the actual human beings they claim to be acting for.......

Why? Because humanism.....and socialism....is a religion, and the grand mass are sinners, who are simply preventing the arrival of the Promised Land.....the people are NOT to be trusted, with free speech, with the free vote, with responsibility for their own well-being, with self-defense, nor certainly with weapons.

One of the few to understand the socialist's scorn for the people was George Orwell........

Nobody hates the people more than a lefty.
 

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Lorne Gunter: Opposing self-defence means opposing democracy itself | Full Comment | National Post

HEAR! HEAR!

Nobody hates the people more than those on the left..........yep, those that swear their entire political philosophy is dedicated to the creation of a society of peace, harmony, well-being, equality, and justice for all absolutely DESPISE the actual human beings they claim to be acting for.......

Why? Because humanism.....and socialism....is a religion, and the grand mass are sinners, who are simply preventing the arrival of the Promised Land.....the people are NOT to be trusted, with free speech, with the free vote, with responsibility for their own well-being, with self-defense, nor certainly with weapons.

One of the few to understand the socialist's scorn for the people was George Orwell........

Nobody hates the people more than a lefty.

Yes well if you don't support people shooting people it's clear you hate people. Thank goodness you're not bat**** crazy! Rightards always seem to think their rights are being taken away anytime someone tells them no. Anarchy is fine if you live alone in the wilderness. If you choose to live among the people then you need to abide a few simple rules. Why is it that rightards can't accept that simple fact? There are plenty of wide open spaces up north yet here they all are crowding around the socialists and whining about how socialism bugs them so. Poor poor pussy.
 

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Yes well if you don't support people shooting people it's clear you hate people. Thank goodness you're not bat**** crazy! Rightards always seem to think their rights are being taken away anytime someone tells them no. Anarchy is fine if you live alone in the wilderness. If you choose to live among the people then you need to abide a few simple rules. Why is it that rightards can't accept that simple fact? There are plenty of wide open spaces up north yet here they all are crowding around the socialists and whining about how socialism bugs them so. Poor poor pussy.

Now, I got no further than your first line, I can no longer stomach your scorn for a man.

I have thought on the matter further, however.....seeking to understand how one could be so incensed at an individual for seeking to defend his home, his "castle', his animals, and himself....and by God, I think I have it!

Why if the unfortunate Mr. Thompson had fled the scene successfully, without conflict, and had his dogs killed and his properties burned to the ground, or if Mr. Thompson had been unable to escape, and had fried in his bed......well then the sweet-hearted Priests of the Eventual Socialist Heaven could mumble sermons on the evils of society today....how inequality, and cruelty, and the oppression! The repression of free spirit and goodness and light! Oh how the miscreants have been mistreated, driven to foul acts, in this hell, this debauched society, this vile cesspool of greed and intolerance! It can hardly be their fault! They are like the foul things that grow in the cesspool....the creation of their environment! Why, they may even have been spanked as children!

But they too, given a ten-minute misconduct penalty in the box of sweet societies correctional arms, they SHALL be reformed, they will see the light! They will become one of us! Goodness and mercy shall follow them all the days of their lives...poor abused things.....

But let Mr. Thompson, a man, an individual, step forward, weapon in hand.......and by God DEFEND himself and his property, commit violence unapproved by the STATE! Even if he is merciful (and stupid) and doesn't blow an oh-so-well-deserved hole in the body of our dear trespassers......he blows a GIANT hole in the entire vision of the left....why here is uncontroled violence! Here is individuality! Here is a man that can not be coerced with impunity! Here is a man that acts on his OWN!

BLASPHEMY!

HERESY!

Crucify him! Crucify him!

BTW Unforgiven, when it comes to rights, and English Common Law, it is extremely obvious that you don't have a clue what you are talking about.....and you try to cover that up by being insulting and childish....yes, i read the rest of your post.

Read William Blackstone.

Ever hear of him??????

You will find him in the bookcase of ANY lawyer.
 
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Unforgiven

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Are you still going on about this? You gun nuts aren't above the law. Learn to deal with that already.
 

DaSleeper

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It is not against the law to use weapons to defend yourself.

Deal with that already.......

Bets on conviction?????

Looks like you won the bet?????

Tamsin McMahon, National Post · Thursday, Mar. 3, 2011

In a move that acknowledges the difficulty of prosecuting people who feel forced to act in self-defence, Crown attorneys have dropped two gun charges against an Ontario man who shot at masked intruders firebombing his home, saying they had no “reasonable prospect of conviction.”

Gun charges dropped against self defender
 

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Thanks for that........although the two most serious charges have been dropped, two charges of unsafe storage remain, and are being carried forward.

This is a clear case of persecution by prosecution.......the firearm can not be unsafely stored if it is in use. Use can be anything, from cleaning, to upkeep, to simply looking at it....there is precedent for that in previous charges. The Crown has just allowed that Mr. Thompson did nothing wrong by defending himself with a firearm.....so keeping his firearms out in a clear case of defensive need can not be unsafe storage.

But, of course, the poor bugger has to defend himself against these charges.......and is thus punished, even when found not guilty. And who knows? Perhaps some idiot of a judge incapable of linear thought will convict him....thus creating precedent for the police state.....

Wait and see.
 

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Thanks for that........although the two most serious charges have been dropped, two charges of unsafe storage remain, and are being carried forward.
And that means he will lose his priveledge (not right) to possess firearms for potentially life.
 

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And that means he will lose his priveledge (not right) to possess firearms for potentially life.

Yes, having decided to persecute him through prosecution, I suspect the police state will attempt to violate his right to keep arms as well.............

But I do believe they will lose. He has a very good lawyer, and is backed by tons of precedent on the safe storage charge....

What it comes down to is that a firearm can not be used and stored at the same time, so if it is in use, the owner can not be charged with unsafe storage.........

Use can be anything, including simply handling the firearm.

It will be a fight, but Mr. Thompson is on VERY solid ground.
 

petros

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You gotta admit he made huge mistakes that will lead to his loss of privilege.

There is one Crown tool that could forever end his privileges. A psych analysis. If assessment shows he has anger issues or stability issues, his days of being a firearm enthusiast are over.

I really really would like to hear the reasoning behind the dispute that lead to him being fire bombed. With one in 10 people being unstable odds of two crazies being neighbours is extremely high.

It might be worth the $20 for FOIA to get the disclosure of the entire situation.
 

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Get the gun registry law rescinded. Use the NRA if possible, I am sure the majority of Canadians are not in favor of it, they just didn't think it was important enough to vote against at the time. (lazy American, Lazy Canadian syndrome)
 

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You gotta admit he made huge mistakes that will lead to his loss of privilege.

There is one Crown tool that could forever end his privileges. A psych analysis. If assessment shows he has anger issues or stability issues, his days of being a firearm enthusiast are over.

I really really would like to hear the reasoning behind the dispute that lead to him being fire bombed. With one in 10 people being unstable odds of two crazies being neighbours is extremely high.

It might be worth the $20 for FOIA to get the disclosure of the entire situation.

You already lost the argument over self-defense....the Crown dropped the charges, admitting they could not win.

Anything beyond that is simply more harassment..........
 

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You already lost the argument over self-defense....the Crown dropped the charges, admitting they could not win.

Anything beyond that is simply more harassment..........
The Crown hasn't lost anything. The Crown knows they got it in the bag when it comes to this man's mental stability. It's obvious they feel he is a public danger and they will take away his priveleges. A shrink has far more power than the Crown and they will use that.

If they didn't feel he was a danger they still wouldn't be persuing charges of any kind.
 

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The Crown hasn't lost anything. The Crown knows they got it in the bag when it comes to this man's mental stability. It's obvious they feel he is a public danger and they will take away his priveleges. A shrink has far more power than the Crown and they will use that.

If they didn't feel he was a danger they still wouldn't be persuing charges of any kind.

You know, you just make a fool of yourself when you pull this unsupported crap out of your ass.

It is a right to keep arms, I know you are completely unfamiliar with English Common Law, you obviously come from a statist environment, and lack any understanding of the subject.

Oh, the state feels he is a danger all right.....a danger to the Nanny state itself, to their vision of complacent, compliant subjects quietly bearing all kinds of injustice........

As for being a danger to anyone else, they have to prove he has done something wrong IN COURT, they have to convince a judge that he is a danger............neither of which they can do, IMHO.

You lose again.
 

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A shrink can forever incarcerate a person without that person ever seeing a court room for life. No judge can do that and they will use that angle I guaranteee it.

It's not a right. It's a privelege. As a nutjob his privelege can and will be revoked.

Watch it all unfold and then we'll discuss how you yourself and best learn to protect yourself from losing your priveleges.
 

Colpy

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A shrink can forever incarcerate a person without that person ever seeing a court room for life. No judge can do that and they will use that angle I guaranteee it.

It's not a right. It's a privelege. As a nutjob his privelege can and will be revoked.

Watch it all unfold and then we'll discuss how you yourself and best learn to protect yourself from losing your priveleges.

Troll.

No, excuse me....ignorant troll.
You've already lost this argument.

You're just too obtuse to recognize the fact.