Pierre Poilievre’s callous courting of Canada’s ‘deplorables’ (left wing in full panic mode)

Taxslave2

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Read the bold part. That is why you are a Trump Lover on the cultist level of scary. There was very little "good" that Trump did while in office. (I admit he did maybe do a HANDFUL, if that, of 'okay' things... but that's it.)

You assume I'm talking about the Lump o Lard as a civilian. I'm not.
How totally clueless.
 

The_Foxer

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it's being widely commented on that PP is a very strong contender to win the next election (some LEFT wing sources are talking like it's a shoo in, and advising people to be appropriately frightened :) )

I'm sure we'll see some polls in the next week or two. But either way justin's got to be running scared.
 

Ron in Regina

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Canadians are becoming increasingly disaffected with the Liberals. Inflation is running rampant and the cost of living is sky high, yet the government has ploughed ahead with tax increases. The economy is stumbling and Canada’s allies are starved of energy, but the Liberals continue to wage war on our oil and gas industry. Even providing basic services like passports seems beyond the capability of this government. As a result, Trudeau’s disapproval ratings are at or near historic highs.


Poilievre garnered over 70 per cent of the popular vote, winning 330 of 338 ridings and 68 per cent of the total points on the first ballot (Charest ended up a distant second, with 16 per cent of the points). Over the course of the race, the Conservatives managed to increase their membership to 678,702, from 169,705 at the end of 2021, with strong growth in provinces that are not traditional Tory strongholds, including British Columbia, Quebec, Newfoundland and New Brunswick. Poilievre’s campaign alone said it signed up 311,000 new members. That a whole lot of racist & misogynistic fringe deplorables.

Many on the left are trying to dismiss Poilievre as a far-right populist, but the truth is that his policy platform was not all that different than his supposedly centrist rival. Both candidates, for example, recognized that housing has become unaffordable for many and promised to tie federal infrastructure spending to densification and find ways to remove the red tape that hinders new developments.
 

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"More view Mr. Poilievre negatively than positively but he’s a blank canvas to many. How Canadians who don’t know Mr. Poilievre will react to him will be what I’m watching most closely over the next few months.”

And that will tell the story i think. The polling from a number of sources suggests more than half the country knows very little about him - if he can get in their face and get known on his terms, then i suspect his popularity will rise sharply.
 

Ron in Regina

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…& I don’t think the inflationary economic situation is going to be going away anytime in the next couple of months either…

ST. ANDREWS BY-THE-SEA, N.B. — Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and new Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre offered competing visions for the country Monday in duelling caucus speeches that lay bare the battle lines for when Parliament returns next week.

The ideological divide will pit Trudeau’s Liberals, who defend the central government’s role in program spending and job creation, against Poilievre’s Conservative appeal for a smaller state presence in the lives of empowered individuals.

“Now is not the time for politicians to exploit fears and to pit people one against the other” said Justin Trudeau. Yes, Justin Trudeau said this about someone else.

“What Canadians need is responsible leadership,” said Trudeau, who stood at a podium with scores of Liberal MPs arrayed behind him on a road outside of a resort on the coast of New Brunswick.

Well, yeah, it would be about time for some responsibly leadership as we’ve been missing that since 2015.
 

The_Foxer

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No, its not the time. The time was last year when mandates and passports hit.
Or during the election where he convinced people to hate the unvaxxed. Or when he tried to turn the straights against the gays and trans, or when he tried to divide the urban and rural, or even years ago when he said people from the west have no business trying to run the country and you need someone from the east.

So - basically anytime was, except right now.
 

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What makes me laugh about that is the leftist Canadians who whine about Trump fail to see their own PM has pretty much the same characteristics they say Trump has.
Trudeau has never told the truth about anything since being elected. He was deeply engaged in trying to obstruct and subvert justice. He has a proven track record of misogyny when it comes to women who don't think like he does. And let's not forget Gropergate.

He verbally assaults and lays down nasty labels on anyone who dares to oppose him.
He refuses to answer the simplest of questions with a straight answer.
He's an arrogant megalomaniac.
He abused his power because some big bad truckers peacefully protested against his shit while he excuses left-wing violence as "understandable".
He's taken political prisoners.
He has given control of this country over to outside organizations (The UN and WEF).
He subverted the democratic process by wrangling himself an unearned majority govt.
He routinely undermines our institutions while complaining that Canadians are losing faith in those same institutions.
He's incredibly divisive.

Also, when you're so desperate to attack your political opponents with made up shit, it's pretty clear you lack the ability to stand on your own merits because there's nothing for you to stand on.

I mean it's not like Team Groper can point to anything positive they've accomplished in 7 years.

They don't call Gotti Turdeau the new "Teflon Don" for nothing. The turd can do whatever he wants to do and is allowed to continue to get away with his crimes against Canadians and crimes against humanity. One can only hope that one day soon this criminal dicktaor in Ottawa will end up in some gulag.

I kinda doubt that will ever happen though as most politicians never pay for their criminal activities while in politics that they get involved with in Canada. When caught, they are pretty much told to go retire and stay quiet somewhere and get paid big bucks to do so. When we start to see more politicians start paying the price for the lies that they tell pretty much every day to we the peasants then justice will be served.

The turd in Ottawa will be gone one day and the turd will go peacefully off too some place where he can live the rest of his life laughing to himself as too how much he phukd up Canada and Canadians. All those french liberal socialists from Quebec have been allowed way too many decades to help destroy English Canada. Hopefully, the next federal election will get rid of all those french politicians from Quebec who are all pretty much pro Quebec and anti-English Canada. I just hope that PP is true to his word and he ends liberalism bullshit in Canada forever. Go, PP, go. (y)
 

taxme

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Trump would have never made President if his opponent wasnt a more crooked, lying sack of shit than he is.

Its not exclusive to US politics

Well, I always knew for sure that you were a sack of shit. Your words above just proved it. Just saying. And besides that, you know dick all about Trump other than what the lying and fake lefty liberal media tells you about Trump. Trump may have his faults, but are you any better, liberal? FO. :cool:
 

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"More view Mr. Poilievre negatively than positively but he’s a blank canvas to many. How Canadians who don’t know Mr. Poilievre will react to him will be what I’m watching most closely over the next few months.”

And that will tell the story i think. The polling from a number of sources suggests more than half the country knows very little about him - if he can get in their face and get known on his terms, then i suspect his popularity will rise sharply.
That, I think ,is highly dependent on where the polling was done, and how. Also, despite the way much of the media presented it, only party members get to vote. So essentially it doesn't matter what the left thinks about him.
 

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That, I think ,is highly dependent on where the polling was done, and how.
You're thinking there's less of a divide in the west and more so in the east? That might very well be true. But it is the east we have to make real strides in.

Although bc is looking promising for a bit of a comeback too.
 
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You're thinking there's less of a divide in the west and more so in the east? That might very well be true. But it is the east we have to make real strides in.

Although bc is looking promising for a bit of a comeback too.
Downtown Vancouver and Victoria are solidly left the rest not so much .
 
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"More view Mr. Poilievre negatively than positively but he’s a blank canvas to many. How Canadians who don’t know Mr. Poilievre will react to him will be what I’m watching most closely over the next few months.”

And that will tell the story i think. The polling from a number of sources suggests more than half the country knows very little about him - if he can get in their face and get known on his terms, then i suspect his popularity will rise sharply.
It's obvious that he is a skilled politician and an effective speaker, but we've got possibly three years until the next election and sooner or later he's going to have to come up with some concrete policy suggestions. Right now he's playing a heavy populist hand of support for Canadians that are struggling with the cost of living, but there's a lot of real estate between talking the talk and walking the walk.

We also keep hearing about the impressive number of new CPC memberships he brought in during his leadership campaign but it's interesting that only 64% of eligible ballots were actually cast. One has to ask why a solid third of party members didn't vote.

A few decades of watching Canadian politics has left me more than a little cynical about fast talking politicians with big promises and no details about how they intend to keep them. I see a lot of talk from Poilievre, but a lot of that doesn't ring true. He talks bnig about support for the working man but his history with the Harper government put him squarely in the anti-labour camp. His latest call for the Liberals to commit to no new tax increases, including payroll deductions for CPP and EI makes no allowance for indexing those payments, and especially in the case of CPP makes no allowance for the increased pressure on put on that program by the huge wave of retiring baby boomers. We've known for some time now the our federal pension plans were under threat by the so-called gray wave, have those concerns suddenly evaporated ? I'm as much for a tax break as the next guy, but we do have to look at the effect that lower revenues will have and just how that will be compensated for.
 
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It's obvious that he is a skilled politician and an effective speaker, but we've got possibly three years until the next election and sooner or later he's going to have to come up with some concrete policy suggestions. Right now he's playing a heavy populist hand of support for Canadians that are struggling with the cost of living, but there's a lot of real estate between talking the talk and walking the walk.

We also keep hearing about the impressive number of new CPC memberships he brought in during his leadership campaign but it's interesting that only 64% of eligible ballots were actually cast. One has to ask why a solid third of party members didn't vote.

A few decades of watching Canadian politics has left me more than a little cynical about fast talking politicians with big promises and no details about how they intend to keep them. I see a lot of talk from Poilievre, but a lot of that doesn't ring true. He talks bnig about support for the working man but his history with the Harper government put him squarely in the anti-labour camp. His latest call for the Liberals to commit to no new tax increases, including payroll deductions for CPP and EI makes no allowance for indexing those payments, and especially in the case of CPP makes no allowance for the increased pressure on put on that program by the huge wave of retiring baby boomers. We've known for some time now the our federal pension plans were under threat by the so-called gray wave, have those concerns suddenly evaporated ? I'm as much for a tax break as the next guy, but we do have to look at the effect that lower revenues will have and just how that will be compensated for.
Here is one for ya.

Does the ever increasing carbon tax actually impact emissions? Are you richer because of it? If you get a refund do you see any benefit to lending the Feds money you cant spare for 24 months without interest?

Do we need to know how pipelines impact the lesbian community?