Ottawa’s new anti-terrorism strategy lists eco-extremists as threats

petros

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The Sierra Club are a legal organization that fights corporate and governmental eco-terrorism in court. Where do you get that they are acting outside the law? Greenpeace usually only pull publicity stunts to get more money sent their way. I am aware that there are some, like Earth First, who have done damage but I think you are way off base with your accusations.
Sierra Club is a joke similar to Ducks Unlimited. They try to "save" lands they deem useful to their needs.

Spiking trees is pretty rare. Most people with half a brain cell know that someone could get killed by them. I haven't heard about spikes in quite some time.
Ceramic spikes are the eco-tard "faller friendly" method of choice as of late. They wreck the chain and bar but are "safer" to the faller.
 

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Sierra Club is a joke similar to Ducks Unlimited. They try to "save" lands they deem useful to their needs.

Ceramic spikes are the eco-tard "faller friendly" method of choice as of late. They wreck the chain and bar but are "safer" to the faller.

You're so cool.

Not like them eco tards and eco terrorists, lol
 

CDNBear

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I find it so amusing that people use the same type of tactics on both sides of the issue. Childishness and name calling rarely, if ever, accomplishes anything. Throwing labels at your percieved adversaries only serves to weaken your own position.
Oh, I'm so saving that one, for the next time I see you doing just that.

I noticed that this all went zoom over everybody's head:roll:
Of course it did. It interfered with the usual suspects getting weak shots off at Harper and company.

Gawd forbid the usual suspects actually use any form of thought.
 

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Anyone remember when the pipeline near Ft St Johns Dawson Creek BC exploded due to a criminal act???? Harper and his thugs may be a bunch of slack jawed locos but in the end they aint planting bombs in peoples workplaces and placing peoples lives at risk.... They pass legislation and use the law... Mabye if the eco terrorists were smart enough they would all get law degrees and take the fight to the harper encampment/government....

B.C. pipeline explosion likely terrorism: ex-CSIS official - British Columbia - CBC News

And they aren't spiking nails in trees so that some hapless logger could be maimed for life.
 

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Harper and his gang of thugs are ecological terrorists. They are a threat to the environment.


There; I give ya a pos., so now yer 2 fer 3. not bad.

We disagree with the Harperites and can count on some years in a gulag, slinging a pick on the pipeline, or some other such goodie.

An Ont. judge just struck down the mandatory minimum law to keep a guy who had a loaded gun (we are not told why), from going to PRISON - not jail, for three years. No doubt her ruling will be appealed by "the crown'............

We may see our Canada again, but Harpoisto will be out of office for several years before we can get all his sh it rolled back.

Sierra Club is a joke similar to Ducks Unlimited. They try to "save" lands they deem useful to their needs.

Ceramic spikes are the eco-tard "faller friendly" method of choice as of late. They wreck the chain and bar but are "safer" to the faller.


Finally, someone besides myself who doesn't like Ducks Unlimited.
 

captain morgan

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So do I but I don't share the captain's views. The policy mentioned in the OP is another small move towards a complete police state.


Everyone has an opinion and each one has value regardless of agreement or not... And it is this very principle that the Cliff-ies of the world can't seem to grasp.

Whether it's some eco-organization that spurs some of their less-than-intelligent followers to martyr themselves or the Weibo Ludwigs of the world, the message is always the same: I'm right and if you don't agree, I'll trample all over your rights.

Their hypocrisy knows no bounds. I've seen it so many times especially in things like real estate development. Out in my neck of the woods, the town of Canmore has undergone a huge transformation in the last years, but the same BS jumps into the news every so often - that being people opposed to further development... It seems that development is A-OK as long as they can build their place, but the moment that they are done, no more should happen as they've morphed into the custodian of ole Mother Gaia all of the sudden.

Ceramic spikes are the eco-tard "faller friendly" method of choice as of late. They wreck the chain and bar but are "safer" to the faller.


The kinder & gentler option, how nice.

Kinda like neutron bombs as they kill all of the inhabitants, but don't f*ck-up everything with long 1/2 lives.
 

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All political extremists are dangerous.
If I understand the conservatives, the message they're sending is:
Protecting the nature is dangerous but allowing people to carry weapons freely is not.
 

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As someone who is all for more efficient and environmentally friendly production of our natural resources but also as someone who lived through Wiebo Ludwig's campaign against Alberta Energy Company in the Hythe area in the 90s, I will unabashedly agree that there are environmental terrorists out there and they deserve to face the full penalty of law. Just because they haven't killed anyone yet* doesn't mean they won't, it doesn't mean their prospective victims deserve any such treatment and it doesn't mean their cause is remotely just.

In the case of Mr Ludwig, apologists like to forget that he was found guilty of criminal code offences against energy producers (as was his son Benjamin who received a conditional discharge, even though he was caught with full facial shots on surveillance committing acts of vandalism that caused thousands of dollars in damage)and that he was suspected of numerous other acts that caused hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of damage and potentially life threatening incidents such as releases of high H2S gas (a highly dangerous nerve agent)and firing rifle shots into manned facilities. These acts DID endanger the lives of numerous people, both employees and contractors working for AEC, but also members of the the general public as well: at one point the main highway between Grande Prairie, AB and Dawson Creek, BC had to be closed because well site piping was blown up releasing poisonous gas less than 1/4 mile from the highway (fortunately the wind was blowing away from the highway at the time of the incident).

Apologists for Mr Ludwig also like to ignore the fact that he refused to let the Alberta government or 3rd party agencies monitor air quality on his property to prove if there was any validity to his claims. All that matters to apologists is that he told a good story and made a sympathetic figure to those who didn't have to deal with him, while Alberta Energy Company donated money and encouraged area employees to cooperate with and support local Crimewatch programs, which meant the RCMP was "for hire" when it came to investigating the wave of acts of vandalism in the area.

The real irony in this case is that while Ludwig was conducting his campaign, AEC wasn't the group of bad guys he made them out to be, but after things were settled and their management changed, they were definitely in a position to become so, based on their change in management/operating philosophy...

* in the case of "Reverend" Ludwig, there was a teenage girl killed at his compound, when shots were fired from the Ludwig compound at the vehicle she was a passenger in. The driver of said vehicle was NOT acting in lawful manner, by trespassing and allegedly "spinning doughnuts" on the Ludwig property, but since when is trespassing a capital crime?
 

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As someone who is all for more efficient and environmentally friendly production of our natural resources but also as someone who lived through Wiebo Ludwig's campaign against Alberta Energy Company in the Hythe area in the 90s, I will unabashedly agree that there are environmental terrorists out there and they deserve to face the full penalty of law. Just because they haven't killed anyone yet* doesn't mean they won't, it doesn't mean their prospective victims deserve any such treatment and it doesn't mean their cause is remotely just.


One of the lunatics at the Ludwig farm (possibly Weibo himself) shot and killed a young girl. Apparently, some kids driving up to the farm one night justified loosing-off a bunch of shots at the car.