Ontario to fund more private clinic surgeries in bid to stabilize health-care system

[petros]

More like fifty years ago . Wait lists have been around even longer .

Indeed but never this long or this bad.

 

[Serryah]

You should write a book about your massive knowledge and experience with Ontario health care.

Well after asking people who work in it, and deal with it, I have a much better understanding of it than you think.

 

[Serryah]

Of course it's personal information. And the one tends to lead to the other. That's how scammers work. Scammers and doxxers never just ask you outright for the info they want, they get a little at a time. First it's What do you do for a living specifically. Then it's what province or city do you live in. Then things get easy to narrow down.

If i say i'm a nurse and they know i'm working in saskatoon in response to what medical experience i have with hospitals, we've narrowed my workplaces down to about 3 places already. Not hard to finish from there.

That's why scammers ask that stuff. Note how insistent she was that i identify my precise type of work. Not just "do you work in medicine' tho that would be bad enough but wanting details on my specific job and coming back repeatedly to push for that info.

Be VERY careful around people who do that. There's usually a reason they want that kind of specific information about you and yes - it is personal so it's always wise to keep it that way.

You assumed I was going to ask where you live and on and on.

I wasn't.

I'm one of those idiots who would have taken you at your word - sort of - if you had said Yeah I work Health care as a X (since you said you weren't a clerk), at LEAST until you said that if you go into a patients room and saw their chart...

At that point, I knew even if you suggested you were some sort of health care person, you weren't.

So while your paranoia is cute, your own words proved you actually don't know jack shit about health care from a 'personal experience' point of view and it's all just typical "I think" that Joe Public has, which is only part of what goes on.

I leave you to your paranoia now, Alex. Careful of the gay frogs!

 

[Serryah]

Fuck that. Start stepping on Canada's medical schools. Foreign students pay more to attend than Canadian students and thus our medical schools tend to be filled with foreign students

Got proof of that?

while ours have to go someplace else to get their medical education.

Where someone goes for education - medical or otherwise - is a personal choice. If Canadian students are leaving Canada to train elsewhere, it's not just seat availability that's likely the issue.

It could be just as simple as a student wants to go elsewhere because it's not 'home'.

Which means that in order to practice medicine in Canada they have to be recertified.

Yes, so maybe look at the recertification process and change that as well as trying to make Canadian schools more enticing for students to want to stay. AND any docs or other medical people who trained in other nations also have a less problematic re-certification for Canadian medicine. No reason why both can't be done.

Our medical schools should be forced to take in Canadian students first, then they can fill any leftover seats with foreign students.

I absolutely agree with this.

 

[The_Foxer]

You assumed I was going to ask where you live and on and on.

Just like i assume that if someone tries to break down my front door they're planning on entering the house illegally And saying "i wasn't" after you got called out for it isn't very convincing. You were being pretty persistent for someone who was just idly curious. And not just 'do you work in medicine' but repeatedly trying to get the specific details of what my job was.

Nice try.

 

[Serryah]

Just like i assume that if someone tries to break down my front door they're planning on entering the house illegally And saying "i wasn't" after you got called out for it isn't very convincing. You were being pretty persistent for someone who was just idly curious. And not just 'do you work in medicine' but repeatedly trying to get the specific details of what my job was.

Nice try.

 

[The_Foxer]

Translation: "Shit he caught me and called me out and now i have to make believe that he's being unreasonable!!!"

ROFLMAO - pathetic. Next time just don't try to pump people for information. The very fact you're still going on about it pretty much shows you were up to no good. Nobody's that desperate to convince others that they're NOT up to no good

 

[Jinentonix]

Got proof of that?

It's pretty common knowledge that foreign students pay more and that post-secondary institutions will tend to take whoever pays the most, first.

Where someone goes for education - medical or otherwise - is a personal choice. If Canadian students are leaving Canada to train elsewhere, it's not just seat availability that's likely the issue.

It could be just as simple as a student wants to go elsewhere because it's not 'home'.

While I won't argue that some may very well choose to attend school overseas, I think you may find them to be a pretty small minority. Most have no choice if they want to attend medical school.

Yes, so maybe look at the recertification process and change that as well as trying to make Canadian schools more enticing for students to want to stay. AND any docs or other medical people who trained in other nations also have a less problematic re-certification for Canadian medicine. No reason why both can't be done.

So we should brain-drain other countries?

I absolutely agree with this.

Oh shit.

 

[petros]

It's pretty common knowledge that foreign students pay more and that post-secondary institutions will tend to take whoever pays the most, first.

While I won't argue that some may very well choose to attend school overseas, I think you may find them to be a pretty small minority. Most have no choice if they want to attend medical school.

So we should brain-drain other countries?

Oh shit.

That goes far beyond just med school. Alot of foreign students dont have access to postsecondary or pist grad at all or without waiting for an opening or doing military first. Some come on visa with intent to stay. Its a way to buy citizenship.

 

[Serryah]

It's pretty common knowledge that foreign students pay more and that post-secondary institutions will tend to take whoever pays the most, first.

It's pretty common knowledge... does not a proof make.

While I won't argue that some may very well choose to attend school overseas, I think you may find them to be a pretty small minority. Most have no choice if they want to attend medical school.

Another one of those "I think but can't know for sure" things. Since we get med students from Dal working with our doctors yearly, I've yet to see any immigrants working with. Sure they could be off in larger hospitals but I'd suggest my 'experience' is just as valid as your 'assumption'.

So we should brain-drain other countries?

It's already happening; those docs and nurses are already here. They just can't practice due to the stupid restrictions in place for them to practice. IMO the whole system needs a revamp.

Oh shit.

HAHA - yeah, that is scary.