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Not at all.. really anything you say is taken with a gain of salt..
People like you demean and try and hurt others to make themselves feel better struggle much more with insecurity, because they refuse to acknowledge that their actions are a result of being insecure. Confident and happy people don't give a crap what other people think, if other people are more successful than them, or what people do with their lives, because they are too busy being happy with their own lives to waste their time caring/thinking about the "faults" or "defects" of others.
I am so sorry that you feel so insure to have to come to Canadian Content and continually insult members to bolster your own self-esteem.
There was another member Canuck.. he used to do the same.. until.. well. members just got tired of it.
Mostly try to right all the wrongs foisted on us by successive leftard governments.
It'll be OK, li'l fella.Not at all.. really anything you say is taken with a gain of salt..
People like you demean and try and hurt others to make themselves feel better struggle much more with insecurity, because they refuse to acknowledge that their actions are a result of being insecure. Confident and happy people don't give a crap what other people think, if other people are more successful than them, or what people do with their lives, because they are too busy being happy with their own lives to waste their time caring/thinking about the "faults" or "defects" of others.
I am so sorry that you feel so insure to have to come to Canadian Content and continually insult members to bolster your own self-esteem.
There was another member Canuck.. he used to do the same.. until.. well. members just got tired of it.
It's funny that you're trying to demean me, thus bringing yourself into the category you're babbling about.
Even funnier that you're apparently blind to that glaringly obvious fact.
Nothing like making them stand out for the Taliban LOL - good grief!
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Video shows Canadian troops ignoring Afghans standing in sewage canal
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Publishing date:Aug 24, 2021 • 4 hours ago • 2 minute read • 31 Comments
Afghan evacuees, many of whom holding valid Canadian visas and travel documents, stand in an open sewage canal outside of Hamid Karzai International Airport on Tuesday, Aug. 24 2021. Many evacuees told the Toronto Sun that Canadian soldiers on the opposite bank ignored their pleas to look at their paperwork and allow them to board evacuation flights
Afghan evacuees, many of whom holding valid Canadian visas and travel documents, stand in an open sewage canal outside of Hamid Karzai International Airport on Tuesday, Aug. 24 2021. Many evacuees told the Toronto Sun that Canadian soldiers on the opposite bank ignored their pleas to look at their paperwork and allow them to board evacuation flights Submitted photo
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They’re standing in raw sewage, waving their documents and being ignored by seemingly indifferent Canadian troops.
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Video obtained Tuesday by the Toronto Sun showed what appears to be desperate Afghan nationals — waving emails and facilitation letters from Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada confirming visas and spots on Canadian rescue flights — standing in an open sewage canal trying to get the soldiers’ attention.
The situation — which has been unfolding since Sunday, sources said — has all but extinguished any confidence Canada’s allies in Afghanistan had in our country’s long-standing promises of safety in exchange for their assistance during Canada’s 14-year mission.
“We lost our hope when they ignored us,” said the man who recorded the encounter, whose identity the Sun has agreed to conceal due to safety concerns.
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“We thought they are just showing themselves to the world that they were helping us here, but the reality is that no one cares about Afghans.”
The video depicts Afghan citizens — allegedly embassy workers, interpreters and contractors at Canadian Armed Forces installations in Kabul and Kandahar — standing in a sewage canal that runs along the eastern perimeter of Kabul’s airport.
Afghan locals employed by the Canadian military during Canada’s 14-year mission in Afghanistan stand in a sewage canal outside of Hamid Karzai International Airport on Tuesday, Aug. 24 2021, pleading with Canadian soldiers to examine their travel documents confirming their spots on Canadian evacuation flights out of Afghanistan.
Afghan locals employed by the Canadian military during Canada’s 14-year mission in Afghanistan stand in a sewage canal outside of Hamid Karzai International Airport on Tuesday, Aug. 24 2021, pleading with Canadian soldiers to examine their travel documents confirming their spots on Canadian evacuation flights out of Afghanistan. PHOTO BY SCREENGRAB
“We are telling them, ‘Here is our visas.’ We have documents. We have visas. Nobody is talking to us,” the man who shot the video says in a narration.
“We are waiting here since morning, from 6 a.m. until now. The Canadian Forces, they are not looking at our visas, they are not talking to us.”
Soldiers stand on the opposite bank, some appearing to wear Canadian flags on their uniforms.
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Another source told the Sun that U.S. and U.K. troops were also posted along the berm, encouraging their allies to approach them through the open sewer, where they’d be pulled up on to the other side.
As the Taliban’s evacuation deadline approaches, the situation for those who Canada promised to evacuate grows even more dire.
“Since the Taliban came to the city, more than 10 guys have been taken from their homes in the middle of the night, never to be seen again,” the man who supplied the videos said.
“Taliban are knocking door to door, looking for those guys who worked for the coalition forces in my town, Kandahar.”
A statement from the Canadian Forces in response to the Sun’s inquiries acknowledged the desperate situation, adding that all members on the ground have a role to play.
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“Those assigned to conduct security can only conduct security while on duty — they are not able to engage,” the statement said.
“At the same time, there are other Canadian Armed Forces members continuing to engage people, identify them and bring them through the gates for onward processing.”
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In this handout image courtesy of the U.S. Marine Corps, families begin to board a U.S. Air Force Boeing C-17 Globemaster III during an evacuation at Hamid Karzai International Airport, in Kabul, Afghanistan, Monday, Aug. 23, 2021.
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The spokesman didn’t confirm if the soldiers in the video were Canadian, but didn’t deny it either.
Canadian Armed Forces teams have lists of “vetted and vulnerable individuals” and are working to get them onto flights, the spokesman said.
“Further details of the process cannot be disclosed for security reasons.”
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Afghan evacuees, many of whom holding valid Canadian visas and travel documents, stand in an open sewage canal outside of Hamid Karzai International Airport on Tuesday, Aug. 24 2021. Many evacuees told the Toronto Sun that Canadian soldiers on the opposite bank ignored their pleas to look at their paperwork and allow them to board evacuation flights
Afghan evacuees, many of whom holding valid Canadian visas and travel documents, stand in an open sewage canal outside of Hamid Karzai International Airport on Tuesday, Aug. 24 2021. Many evacuees told the Toronto Sun that Canadian soldiers on the opposite bank ignored their pleas to look at their paperwork and allow them to board evacuation flights Submitted photo
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They’re standing in raw sewage, waving their documents and being ignored by seemingly indifferent Canadian troops.
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Video obtained Tuesday by the Toronto Sun showed what appears to be desperate Afghan nationals — waving emails and facilitation letters from Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada confirming visas and spots on Canadian rescue flights — standing in an open sewage canal trying to get the soldiers’ attention.
The situation — which has been unfolding since Sunday, sources said — has all but extinguished any confidence Canada’s allies in Afghanistan had in our country’s long-standing promises of safety in exchange for their assistance during Canada’s 14-year mission.
“We lost our hope when they ignored us,” said the man who recorded the encounter, whose identity the Sun has agreed to conceal due to safety concerns.
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“We thought they are just showing themselves to the world that they were helping us here, but the reality is that no one cares about Afghans.”
The video depicts Afghan citizens — allegedly embassy workers, interpreters and contractors at Canadian Armed Forces installations in Kabul and Kandahar — standing in a sewage canal that runs along the eastern perimeter of Kabul’s airport.
Afghan locals employed by the Canadian military during Canada’s 14-year mission in Afghanistan stand in a sewage canal outside of Hamid Karzai International Airport on Tuesday, Aug. 24 2021, pleading with Canadian soldiers to examine their travel documents confirming their spots on Canadian evacuation flights out of Afghanistan.
Afghan locals employed by the Canadian military during Canada’s 14-year mission in Afghanistan stand in a sewage canal outside of Hamid Karzai International Airport on Tuesday, Aug. 24 2021, pleading with Canadian soldiers to examine their travel documents confirming their spots on Canadian evacuation flights out of Afghanistan. PHOTO BY SCREENGRAB
“We are telling them, ‘Here is our visas.’ We have documents. We have visas. Nobody is talking to us,” the man who shot the video says in a narration.
“We are waiting here since morning, from 6 a.m. until now. The Canadian Forces, they are not looking at our visas, they are not talking to us.”
Soldiers stand on the opposite bank, some appearing to wear Canadian flags on their uniforms.
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Another source told the Sun that U.S. and U.K. troops were also posted along the berm, encouraging their allies to approach them through the open sewer, where they’d be pulled up on to the other side.
As the Taliban’s evacuation deadline approaches, the situation for those who Canada promised to evacuate grows even more dire.
“Since the Taliban came to the city, more than 10 guys have been taken from their homes in the middle of the night, never to be seen again,” the man who supplied the videos said.
“Taliban are knocking door to door, looking for those guys who worked for the coalition forces in my town, Kandahar.”
A statement from the Canadian Forces in response to the Sun’s inquiries acknowledged the desperate situation, adding that all members on the ground have a role to play.
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“Those assigned to conduct security can only conduct security while on duty — they are not able to engage,” the statement said.
“At the same time, there are other Canadian Armed Forces members continuing to engage people, identify them and bring them through the gates for onward processing.”
Canadian coalition forces assist during an evacuation at Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul, Afghanistan, August 24, 2021.
Canadians left to fend for themselves in Taliban-controlled Kabul as U.S. troops again turn away evacuees
Marines and Norwegian coalition forces assist with security at an Evacuation Control Checkpoint ensuring evacuees are processed safely during an evacuation at Hamid Karzai International Airport, Kabul, Afghanistan, Aug. 20, 2021.
Canadians were left behind in Kabul despite government's claims: Report
In this handout image courtesy of the U.S. Marine Corps, families begin to board a U.S. Air Force Boeing C-17 Globemaster III during an evacuation at Hamid Karzai International Airport, in Kabul, Afghanistan, Monday, Aug. 23, 2021.
Taliban says no evacuation extension as G7 meets on Afghan crisis
The spokesman didn’t confirm if the soldiers in the video were Canadian, but didn’t deny it either.
Canadian Armed Forces teams have lists of “vetted and vulnerable individuals” and are working to get them onto flights, the spokesman said.
“Further details of the process cannot be disclosed for security reasons.”
Video shows Canadian troops ignoring Afghans standing in sewage canal
Embassy workers, translators and contractors — all allegedly waving valid visas and travel documents — were left to stand in sewage
UN rights boss says she has credible reports of Taliban executions
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United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet delivers a speech at the opening of a special session of the UN Human Rights Council on Afghanistan in Geneva, Tuesday, Aug. 24, 2021.
United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet delivers a speech at the opening of a special session of the UN Human Rights Council on Afghanistan in Geneva, Tuesday, Aug. 24, 2021. PHOTO BY FABRICE COFFRINI /AFP via Getty Images
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GENEVA — The U.N. human rights chief said on Tuesday that she had received credible reports of serious violations by the Taliban in Afghanistan, including “summary executions” of civilians and Afghan security forces who had surrendered.
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Michelle Bachelet gave no details of the killings in her speech to the Human Rights Council, but urged it to set up a mechanism to closely monitor Taliban actions.
Under a resolution agreed later on Tuesday by the Geneva forum, she is to report back at its September-October session on the situation and on any violations committed by the Taliban, and make a fuller written report in March 2022.
The Taliban treatment of women and girls would be “a fundamental red line,” Bachelet told an emergency session of the council, held at the request of Pakistan and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC).
Pakistan’s ambassador Khalil Hashmi said the resolution voiced grave concern over reports of violations and sent a “message of solidarity to the people of Afghanistan.”
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Austria’s ambassador, Elisabeth Tichy-Fisslberger, speaking on behalf of the European Union, said it was joining the consensus even though the resolution “falls short.” The bloc had sought to launch an international investigation, she said.
Nasir Ahmad Andisha, a senior Afghan diplomat from the deposed government, called for accountability for Taliban actions, describing an “uncertain and dire” situation where millions of people fear for their lives.
“Monitoring is essential to prevent further atrocities and ensure accountability,” Andisha told the talks.
Independent U.N. human rights experts, in a joint statement, said many people were in hiding as “the Taliban continues to search homes door-to-door” and property seizures and reprisals were being reported.
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There has been a devastating increase in civilian casualties in the first half of the year, they said, adding: “The acts of the Taliban over the course of these months and to date may amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity.”
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General view of the crowds of people near the airport in Kabul, Afghanistan, Monday, Aug. 23, 2021.
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But China’s ambassador to the U.N. in Geneva, Chen Xu, said that the U.S. army and the militaries of other coalition partners, including Britain and Australia, should be held accountable for alleged rights violations by their forces in Afghanistan.
The United States condemned attacks that it said were being carried out against civilians, journalists, activists and minority groups, but did not name the Taliban.
Shaharzad Akbar, chair of the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission who had called for a “credible and strong outcome,” later said in a tweet: “An oral update by the High Commissioner? Seriously? Is that all you can do @UN_HRC?”
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United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet delivers a speech at the opening of a special session of the UN Human Rights Council on Afghanistan in Geneva, Tuesday, Aug. 24, 2021.
United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Michelle Bachelet delivers a speech at the opening of a special session of the UN Human Rights Council on Afghanistan in Geneva, Tuesday, Aug. 24, 2021. PHOTO BY FABRICE COFFRINI /AFP via Getty Images
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GENEVA — The U.N. human rights chief said on Tuesday that she had received credible reports of serious violations by the Taliban in Afghanistan, including “summary executions” of civilians and Afghan security forces who had surrendered.
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Michelle Bachelet gave no details of the killings in her speech to the Human Rights Council, but urged it to set up a mechanism to closely monitor Taliban actions.
Under a resolution agreed later on Tuesday by the Geneva forum, she is to report back at its September-October session on the situation and on any violations committed by the Taliban, and make a fuller written report in March 2022.
The Taliban treatment of women and girls would be “a fundamental red line,” Bachelet told an emergency session of the council, held at the request of Pakistan and the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC).
Pakistan’s ambassador Khalil Hashmi said the resolution voiced grave concern over reports of violations and sent a “message of solidarity to the people of Afghanistan.”
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Austria’s ambassador, Elisabeth Tichy-Fisslberger, speaking on behalf of the European Union, said it was joining the consensus even though the resolution “falls short.” The bloc had sought to launch an international investigation, she said.
Nasir Ahmad Andisha, a senior Afghan diplomat from the deposed government, called for accountability for Taliban actions, describing an “uncertain and dire” situation where millions of people fear for their lives.
“Monitoring is essential to prevent further atrocities and ensure accountability,” Andisha told the talks.
Independent U.N. human rights experts, in a joint statement, said many people were in hiding as “the Taliban continues to search homes door-to-door” and property seizures and reprisals were being reported.
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There has been a devastating increase in civilian casualties in the first half of the year, they said, adding: “The acts of the Taliban over the course of these months and to date may amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity.”
Marines and Norwegian coalition forces assist with security at an Evacuation Control Checkpoint ensuring evacuees are processed safely during an evacuation at Hamid Karzai International Airport, Kabul, Afghanistan, Aug. 20, 2021.
Canadians were left behind in Kabul despite government’s claims: Report
General view of the crowds of people near the airport in Kabul, Afghanistan, Monday, Aug. 23, 2021.
Canadian special forces operating outside Kabul airport to help evacuees: officials
But China’s ambassador to the U.N. in Geneva, Chen Xu, said that the U.S. army and the militaries of other coalition partners, including Britain and Australia, should be held accountable for alleged rights violations by their forces in Afghanistan.
The United States condemned attacks that it said were being carried out against civilians, journalists, activists and minority groups, but did not name the Taliban.
Shaharzad Akbar, chair of the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission who had called for a “credible and strong outcome,” later said in a tweet: “An oral update by the High Commissioner? Seriously? Is that all you can do @UN_HRC?”
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UN rights boss says she has credible reports of Taliban executions
GENEVA — The U.N. human rights chief said on Tuesday that she had received credible reports of serious violations by the Taliban in Afghanistan, including “summary …
So they have evidence. They will report it to the OCTOBER session and write it up for next March. It's no wonder the UN is useless (not that they would do anything about it anyways).
I think the better question should be why were the allowed to go there in the first place when it was announced there will be a withdrawal months ago
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THE KABUL SEWER: Cdn Forces failing to help our allies who want out of AfghanistanVideo shows Canadian troops ignoring Afghans standing in sewage canal
Author of the article:Bryan Passifiume
Publishing date:Aug 24, 2021 • 4 hours ago • 2 minute read • 31 Comments
Afghan evacuees, many of whom holding valid Canadian visas and travel documents, stand in an open sewage canal outside of Hamid Karzai International Airport on Tuesday, Aug. 24 2021. Many evacuees told the Toronto Sun that Canadian soldiers on the opposite bank ignored their pleas to look at their paperwork and allow them to board evacuation flights
Afghan evacuees, many of whom holding valid Canadian visas and travel documents, stand in an open sewage canal outside of Hamid Karzai International Airport on Tuesday, Aug. 24 2021. Many evacuees told the Toronto Sun that Canadian soldiers on the opposite bank ignored their pleas to look at their paperwork and allow them to board evacuation flights Submitted photo
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They’re standing in raw sewage, waving their documents and being ignored by seemingly indifferent Canadian troops.
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Video obtained Tuesday by the Toronto Sun showed what appears to be desperate Afghan nationals — waving emails and facilitation letters from Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada confirming visas and spots on Canadian rescue flights — standing in an open sewage canal trying to get the soldiers’ attention.
The situation — which has been unfolding since Sunday, sources said — has all but extinguished any confidence Canada’s allies in Afghanistan had in our country’s long-standing promises of safety in exchange for their assistance during Canada’s 14-year mission.
“We lost our hope when they ignored us,” said the man who recorded the encounter, whose identity the Sun has agreed to conceal due to safety concerns.
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“We thought they are just showing themselves to the world that they were helping us here, but the reality is that no one cares about Afghans.”
The video depicts Afghan citizens — allegedly embassy workers, interpreters and contractors at Canadian Armed Forces installations in Kabul and Kandahar — standing in a sewage canal that runs along the eastern perimeter of Kabul’s airport.
Afghan locals employed by the Canadian military during Canada’s 14-year mission in Afghanistan stand in a sewage canal outside of Hamid Karzai International Airport on Tuesday, Aug. 24 2021, pleading with Canadian soldiers to examine their travel documents confirming their spots on Canadian evacuation flights out of Afghanistan.
Afghan locals employed by the Canadian military during Canada’s 14-year mission in Afghanistan stand in a sewage canal outside of Hamid Karzai International Airport on Tuesday, Aug. 24 2021, pleading with Canadian soldiers to examine their travel documents confirming their spots on Canadian evacuation flights out of Afghanistan. PHOTO BY SCREENGRAB
“We are telling them, ‘Here is our visas.’ We have documents. We have visas. Nobody is talking to us,” the man who shot the video says in a narration.
“We are waiting here since morning, from 6 a.m. until now. The Canadian Forces, they are not looking at our visas, they are not talking to us.”
Soldiers stand on the opposite bank, some appearing to wear Canadian flags on their uniforms.
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Another source told the Sun that U.S. and U.K. troops were also posted along the berm, encouraging their allies to approach them through the open sewer, where they’d be pulled up on to the other side.
As the Taliban’s evacuation deadline approaches, the situation for those who Canada promised to evacuate grows even more dire.
“Since the Taliban came to the city, more than 10 guys have been taken from their homes in the middle of the night, never to be seen again,” the man who supplied the videos said.
“Taliban are knocking door to door, looking for those guys who worked for the coalition forces in my town, Kandahar.”
A statement from the Canadian Forces in response to the Sun’s inquiries acknowledged the desperate situation, adding that all members on the ground have a role to play.
Advertisement
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Article content
“Those assigned to conduct security can only conduct security while on duty — they are not able to engage,” the statement said.
“At the same time, there are other Canadian Armed Forces members continuing to engage people, identify them and bring them through the gates for onward processing.”
Canadian coalition forces assist during an evacuation at Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul, Afghanistan, August 24, 2021.
Canadians left to fend for themselves in Taliban-controlled Kabul as U.S. troops again turn away evacuees
Marines and Norwegian coalition forces assist with security at an Evacuation Control Checkpoint ensuring evacuees are processed safely during an evacuation at Hamid Karzai International Airport, Kabul, Afghanistan, Aug. 20, 2021.
Canadians were left behind in Kabul despite government's claims: Report
In this handout image courtesy of the U.S. Marine Corps, families begin to board a U.S. Air Force Boeing C-17 Globemaster III during an evacuation at Hamid Karzai International Airport, in Kabul, Afghanistan, Monday, Aug. 23, 2021.
Taliban says no evacuation extension as G7 meets on Afghan crisis
The spokesman didn’t confirm if the soldiers in the video were Canadian, but didn’t deny it either.
Canadian Armed Forces teams have lists of “vetted and vulnerable individuals” and are working to get them onto flights, the spokesman said.
“Further details of the process cannot be disclosed for security reasons.”
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WATCH BELOW at the first-hand video footage of the struggle for those that helped Canadian forces try to flee Afghanistan to safety.
Liberals' Maryam Monsef calls Taliban 'our brothers'
The minister denied the reference was a softening of the government’s position on the 'terrorist group'
Author of the article:Brian Lilley
Publishing date:Aug 25, 2021 • 11 hours ago • 2 minute read • 413 Comments
Liberal minister Maryam Monsef speaks about the Taliban during a press conference on Aug. 25, 2021.
Liberal minister Maryam Monsef speaks about the Taliban during a press conference on Aug. 25, 2021. PHOTO BY SCREENGRAB /CPAC
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While Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has made the point of calling the Taliban in Afghanistan a terrorist group, his minister for women and gender equality is calling the Taliban “our brothers.”
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Maryam Monsef made the comments while speaking on a call with other ministers regarding the evacuation efforts in Afghanistan.
“I want to take this opportunity to speak to our brothers, the Taliban. We call on you to ensure the safe and secure passage of any individual in Afghanistan out of the country,” Monsef said.
“We call on you to immediately stop the violence. The genocide, the femicide, the destruction of infrastructure including heritage buildings.”
Monsef went on to call on the Taliban to return to the peace deal negotiated and to ensure women and minorities were part of that process.
Asked by a reporter during the news conference if the reference to “brothers” was a softening of the government’s position on the Taliban, Monsef said no.
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“Hardly, the Taliban are a terrorist group and yet they claim to be Muslims,” Monsef said.
“The reference to brothers is a cultural reference of course but let me be very clear, we do not support the Taliban. We are horrified that the hard-won gains of the past 20 years are at stake,” Monsef said.
She went on to say that if the Taliban wants to be recognized as a legitimate government in the future they need to act like one by respecting minorities and ending the violence.
Monsef’s comments were in prepared remarks, not in an off-the-cuff statement and it’s not the first time she has used the term “our brothers” to refer to the Taliban.
She made the same reference twice this week, including a reference to how the Taliban could become legitimate.
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Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole blasted the comments as wrong.
“The language used by the Trudeau government is completely unacceptable. I think of the women and girls who are at risk,” O’Toole said.
O’Toole said Canadians deserve a government that will stand up for our values, something he says the Trudeau Liberal don’t do and won’t do.
Speaking in Vancouver, Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau defended his minister and her statements.
“The Taliban are terrorists. We have no plans to recognize them,” Trudeau said while adding that Canada continues to work hard to get as many people out of Afghanistan as possible.
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The minister denied the reference was a softening of the government’s position on the 'terrorist group'
Author of the article:Brian Lilley
Publishing date:Aug 25, 2021 • 11 hours ago • 2 minute read • 413 Comments
Liberal minister Maryam Monsef speaks about the Taliban during a press conference on Aug. 25, 2021.
Liberal minister Maryam Monsef speaks about the Taliban during a press conference on Aug. 25, 2021. PHOTO BY SCREENGRAB /CPAC
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While Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has made the point of calling the Taliban in Afghanistan a terrorist group, his minister for women and gender equality is calling the Taliban “our brothers.”
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Maryam Monsef made the comments while speaking on a call with other ministers regarding the evacuation efforts in Afghanistan.
“I want to take this opportunity to speak to our brothers, the Taliban. We call on you to ensure the safe and secure passage of any individual in Afghanistan out of the country,” Monsef said.
“We call on you to immediately stop the violence. The genocide, the femicide, the destruction of infrastructure including heritage buildings.”
Monsef went on to call on the Taliban to return to the peace deal negotiated and to ensure women and minorities were part of that process.
Asked by a reporter during the news conference if the reference to “brothers” was a softening of the government’s position on the Taliban, Monsef said no.
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“Hardly, the Taliban are a terrorist group and yet they claim to be Muslims,” Monsef said.
“The reference to brothers is a cultural reference of course but let me be very clear, we do not support the Taliban. We are horrified that the hard-won gains of the past 20 years are at stake,” Monsef said.
She went on to say that if the Taliban wants to be recognized as a legitimate government in the future they need to act like one by respecting minorities and ending the violence.
Monsef’s comments were in prepared remarks, not in an off-the-cuff statement and it’s not the first time she has used the term “our brothers” to refer to the Taliban.
She made the same reference twice this week, including a reference to how the Taliban could become legitimate.
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Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole blasted the comments as wrong.
“The language used by the Trudeau government is completely unacceptable. I think of the women and girls who are at risk,” O’Toole said.
O’Toole said Canadians deserve a government that will stand up for our values, something he says the Trudeau Liberal don’t do and won’t do.
Speaking in Vancouver, Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau defended his minister and her statements.
“The Taliban are terrorists. We have no plans to recognize them,” Trudeau said while adding that Canada continues to work hard to get as many people out of Afghanistan as possible.
blilley@postmedia.com
Liberals' Maryam Monsef calls Taliban 'our brothers'
The minister denied the reference was a softening of the government’s position on the 'terrorist group'
Afghan veterans fume over Taliban as 'our brothers'Liberals' Maryam Monsef calls Taliban 'our brothers'
The minister denied the reference was a softening of the government’s position on the 'terrorist group'
Author of the article:Brian Lilley
Publishing date:Aug 25, 2021 • 11 hours ago • 2 minute read • 413 Comments
Liberal minister Maryam Monsef speaks about the Taliban during a press conference on Aug. 25, 2021.
Liberal minister Maryam Monsef speaks about the Taliban during a press conference on Aug. 25, 2021. PHOTO BY SCREENGRAB /CPAC
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While Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has made the point of calling the Taliban in Afghanistan a terrorist group, his minister for women and gender equality is calling the Taliban “our brothers.”
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Maryam Monsef made the comments while speaking on a call with other ministers regarding the evacuation efforts in Afghanistan.
“I want to take this opportunity to speak to our brothers, the Taliban. We call on you to ensure the safe and secure passage of any individual in Afghanistan out of the country,” Monsef said.
“We call on you to immediately stop the violence. The genocide, the femicide, the destruction of infrastructure including heritage buildings.”
Monsef went on to call on the Taliban to return to the peace deal negotiated and to ensure women and minorities were part of that process.
Asked by a reporter during the news conference if the reference to “brothers” was a softening of the government’s position on the Taliban, Monsef said no.
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“Hardly, the Taliban are a terrorist group and yet they claim to be Muslims,” Monsef said.
“The reference to brothers is a cultural reference of course but let me be very clear, we do not support the Taliban. We are horrified that the hard-won gains of the past 20 years are at stake,” Monsef said.
She went on to say that if the Taliban wants to be recognized as a legitimate government in the future they need to act like one by respecting minorities and ending the violence.
Monsef’s comments were in prepared remarks, not in an off-the-cuff statement and it’s not the first time she has used the term “our brothers” to refer to the Taliban.
She made the same reference twice this week, including a reference to how the Taliban could become legitimate.
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Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole blasted the comments as wrong.
“The language used by the Trudeau government is completely unacceptable. I think of the women and girls who are at risk,” O’Toole said.
O’Toole said Canadians deserve a government that will stand up for our values, something he says the Trudeau Liberal don’t do and won’t do.
Speaking in Vancouver, Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau defended his minister and her statements.
“The Taliban are terrorists. We have no plans to recognize them,” Trudeau said while adding that Canada continues to work hard to get as many people out of Afghanistan as possible.
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Liberals' Maryam Monsef calls Taliban 'our brothers'
The minister denied the reference was a softening of the government’s position on the 'terrorist group'
Many of them are working day and night to help translators escape the Taliban
Author of the article:Scott Laurie
Publishing date:Aug 25, 2021 • 9 hours ago • 2 minute read • 24 Comments
Federal minister Maryam Monsef make a funding announcement in Edmonton in 2019.
Federal minister Maryam Monsef make a funding announcement in Edmonton in 2019. PHOTO BY GREG SOUTHAM /POSTMEDIA NETWORK
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“Those people are certainly not our brothers.”
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Trevor Street, a veteran of the war in Afghanistan, was unequivocal in his reaction and denunciation of what the Minister for Women and Gender Equality, Maryam Monsef, said during a two-hour news conference outlining the latest Canadian military efforts to airlift people out of Kabul.
“I cannot even fathom how someone could make such an irresponsible statement,” Street said. “That is completely inappropriate and not in any way representative of who we are as a people.”
Street, 36, served in Kandahar in 2006 and again from 2009 to 2010.
He says he is still haunted by the murder of a little boy who informed American soldiers where an IED was hidden.
As a reward for the tip, American soldiers, Street recalled, gave the boy some money, water and food.
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“When this kid got home, the Taliban were there and they murdered him right on his mother’s doorstep,” the veteran remembers.
“I will never forget that image for as long as I live. I watched the man’s world just come crashing down.”
It is for that — and other reasons — he says “brothers” is the very last way the Taliban should be described.
“It’s completely unacceptable as far as I’m concerned.”
Retired Brig. Gen. Greg Young was in charge of training the Afghan National Police.
He said he didn’t hear the minister’s comment but said this about the terrorist group now controlling Afghanistan: “I wouldn’t trust those guys as far as you could throw them.”
Liberal minister Maryam Monsef speaks about the Taliban during a press conference on Aug. 25, 2021.
Liberals' Maryam Monsef calls Taliban 'our brothers'
Zahra Sultani is a native of Afghanistan and Senior Consultant at Loyalist Public Affairs.
SULTANI: Shame on Monsef for calling Taliban 'our brothers'
Minister for Women and Gender Equality and Rural Economic Development Maryam Monsef arrives on Parliament Hill during the COVID-19 pandemic in Ottawa on Wednesday, May 20, 2020.
Monsef's ministerial mistakes are accumulating
The veteran said he has spent the last five days desperately trying to get a man who used to be his main translator — and eight of his relatives — out of the country using contacts with the U.S. military.
“They’re telling me that the Taliban has already started to do things that are very familiar in terms of 20 years ago,” Young said. “He’s on the Taliban radar and so will his family.”
On Twitter, another veteran of Afghanistan, Thomas Guy, reacted to the minister’s description.
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“My bunkmate from Cornwallis NS, Sgt Paul Gillam (Gilly) was killed by the Taliban on Tuesday, October 3, 2006 at the age of 40,” Guy wrote. “He and his unit were supervising road construction after a landmine exploded early in the day. They were ambushed and he was killed by an RPG.”
158 Canadian Armed Forces members died in Afghanistan.
Afghan veterans fume over Taliban as 'our brothers'
Many of them are working day and night to help translators escape the Taliban
Canadian military calling off all evacuation flights until such time as things improve in Kabul.
Story said 550 were evacuated in the last couple of days. I would be curious to know the order of first out and wonder if it would be women and children or was it loaded with top brass and those deemed to be important people.
Some say it is not what you know, but who you know.
Many left behind at this point.
Story said 550 were evacuated in the last couple of days. I would be curious to know the order of first out and wonder if it would be women and children or was it loaded with top brass and those deemed to be important people.
Some say it is not what you know, but who you know.
Many left behind at this point.
No you did that all by yourself.. you are like Biden blaming Trump for everything..
