Official Records From International Red Cross Prove

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BitWhys, were you able to decipher some of that paper? I took another look at it, and for the life of me, the numbers in the first column appear to be dates - with the years ranging from 1973 to 1978. The tally column looks more like a percentage measurement of some kind... for example the first number reads 52.389. Is that supposed to mean there 52 and a little over a third deaths for that camp? The next one down apparently had approx. 6 and a half deaths. Where then are the remaining thirds, halves and other decimated decimals of those people is what I want to know.

google tools yielded a word or four. my guess is its a report on occurances of a surname or something from the records of the displaced person's camps listed. its Europe. decimals are the new comma.
 

malklaka

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"Innocent"???

Twilla -- you stated that the Jews were INNOCENT? On the contrary: due to their behavior in Germany, the Chancellor of Germany himself (the equivalent of the President in the United States) told them for THREE YEARS to LEAVE! Yes, this comes not just from news stories, or books that you might decry as "rasict", but from speaking directly with people who were THERE during that time period!

The Jews were told to leave: that they were not wanted. When they didn't listen, Hitler tried to force them out by boycotting their business, and other restrictions of an economic nature. He was really being a nice guy, giving them ample opportunity to sell their houses, businesses, etc., and leave. And many of them DID! They were the ones that fled with their massive wealth to Britain and America, and used their wealth to help influence Britain and America to enter a war with Hitler. Britain succumbed first, of course. Hitler stated repeatedly that he had no quarrel with Britain: that he did NOT want war with them! (See the History Channel documentary "The Wrong War") He considered them friends. But the massive Jewish stranglehold on Britain's financial and poilitical systems (made worse by the fresh influx of Jewish money fleeing Germany!) coerced Britain into a war against Germany. Later, similar efforts in America led to the "Pearl Harbor" false flag event that pulled the U.S. into the war.

Only after THREE YEARS of being told to LEAVE, were the Jews finally rounded up and imprisoned, as enemies on your soil SHOULD be during times of war! This is exactly what the U.S. did to Japanese citizens living in the U.S. during WWII!

Many, MANY books have been written about the massive fabrication known as the "Holocaust", several of them by very NON-racist authors, who have then been victimized thereafter. Even HISTORY PROFESSORS who wanted to change the official "6 Million" number to a lower figure in their lesson plans each time revisions were made based upon new data, were FIRED! Amazing that this single period in a very LONG history is the ONLY period that one may not question: at least not any of the Jewish assertions re: "Death Camps".

No less a person than SIMON WIESENTHAL (Yes, very MUCH a JEW, for those who have not heard of him!) has admitted to lesser numbers than "6 Million": but just try to TELL anyone that in a college classroom, and you'll get fired, expelled, or possibly even IMPRISONED!

Rather than cop-out at this point with the knee-jerk "You're a racist" reaction, why not do some RESEARCH?!? An honest man is NEVER afraid to let the FACTS speak for themselves. The "Politically Correct" thing to do is take the Jewish story on FAITH: to not QUESTION what we are told. Does that make sense to YOU? I am a scientist: not a racist, not a hate-monger. Personally, not being Jewish myself, and not knowing anybody that is, I could really care less whether the "official number" is "6 Million", "3 Million", or the 271,000 that the Red Cross has just stated. It really doesn't matter to me, other than from the standpoint of historical accuracy. A scientist and/or historian simply wants the FACTS! ***FACTS ARE NOT "RACIST"***: they simply ARE! Why are we not allowed to seek facts concerning this historical period between 1939 and 1945? Doesn't that seem ridiculous to anybody? Why not allow the actual research, and let the facts tell the truth? Why are the JEWS afraid of the truth? Possibly because, if the numbers are significantly less than they have claimed all of these years, the psychological edge they have enjoyed would evaporate? This was the statement made by SIMON WIESENTHAL HIMSELF!!! Don't believe me? CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF!!! Simon Wiesenthal is a VERY well-known and well-documented man: his writings are VERY easy to find! And to assure yourself that his writings have not been mis-quoted, go find his writings from a JEWISH source! He, himself, ADMITS, not only that the numbers were vastly less than the "6 Million" touted for so long, but the REASON that Jews defend the "6 Million" number so vehemently: to the point of interfering with a person's right to free speach! Bottom line, they not only lose their "guilt club", but may possibly be seen -- especially in light of Israel's behavior over the years -- as having intentionally manipulated the truth for their own financial and political gain.

Don't take MY word; don't take ANYBODY'S word: do the research YOURSELF, with an open mind, and you'll know the TRUTH! This may not be the "politically correct" so-CALLED "truth" that everybody WANTS you to believe: but isn't the ACTUAL truth more important?
 

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Twilla -- you stated that the Jews were INNOCENT? On the contrary: due to their behavior in Germany, the Chancellor of Germany himself (the equivalent of the President in the United States) told them for THREE YEARS to LEAVE! Yes, this comes not just from news stories, or books that you might decry as "rasict", but from speaking directly with people who were THERE during that time period!
How can children NOT be innocent?

The Jews were told to leave: that they were not wanted. When they didn't listen, Hitler tried to force them out by boycotting their business, and other restrictions of an economic nature. He was really being a nice guy, giving them ample opportunity to sell their houses, businesses, etc., and leave. And many of them DID! They were the ones that fled with their massive wealth to Britain and America, and used their wealth to help influence Britain and America to enter a war with Hitler. Britain succumbed first, of course. Hitler stated repeatedly that he had no quarrel with Britain: that he did NOT want war with them! (See the History Channel documentary "The Wrong War") He considered them friends. But the massive Jewish stranglehold on Britain's financial and poilitical systems (made worse by the fresh influx of Jewish money fleeing Germany!) coerced Britain into a war against Germany. Later, similar efforts in America led to the "Pearl Harbor" false flag event that pulled the U.S. into the war.
Oh well since they were told to leave THEIR HOME that must make it all right? First, where were they going to go? Already Europe had taken in their "quota" and were NOT allowing more in? Why would you assume that they were ALL rich and could move? Why would you assume that they would know right away the ATROCITIES that would be heaped on the women, and children?

Only after THREE YEARS of being told to LEAVE, were the Jews finally rounded up and imprisoned, as enemies on your soil SHOULD be during times of war! This is exactly what the U.S. did to Japanese citizens living in the U.S. during WWII!
And the internment camps for the American Japanese and Canadian Japanese WAS WRONG!! The stealing of their business and their homes and their possessions WAS WRONG

From your hero
[FONT=Verdana, Helvetica]Simon Wiesenthal, a survivor of the Nazi death camps, dedicated his life to documenting the crimes of the Holocaust and to hunting down the perpetrators still at large. "When history looks back," Wiesenthal explained, "I want people to know the Nazis weren’t able to kill millions of people and get away with it." His work stands as a reminder and a warning for future generations.[/FONT]
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Right there he uses the word MILLIONS from his own website.

Hell, even the leader of the Neo Nazi movement in Germany, Ingo Hasselbach apologized for his actions and now works tirelessly to make people aware of the lies that are still being perpetrated by holocaust deniers and the die hard neo nazi's.

But don't believe me...do the research yourself.
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triedit

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The Jews were told to leave: that they were not wanted. When they didn't listen, Hitler tried to force them out by boycotting their business, and other restrictions of an economic nature. He was really being a nice guy, giving them ample opportunity to sell their houses, businesses, etc., and leave.
I have to say this is the one and only time Ive ever seen Hitler referred to as "a nice guy".

Tell ya what, malklaka. I don't much like you, so Im telling you to move. Sell everything and get out. Give up life as you know it. If you're not gone in three years I'll gas you and your family. Deal? Im a nice person after all...
 

malklaka

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DaSleeper: "Then what is wrong with investigating that new "document" in detail the way we are doing now??"

Absolutely nothing: just be sure you are not only critical of that which is against the majority, or "political correctness". There is a tendency for people to "inbvestigate" anything that would SUPPORT the status quo, but ignore (or decry as "racist") anything which challenged the status quo. Thsi happens, not simply with regard to issues of "political correctness", but in science. Remember the flak given to Galileo? Bruno? Columbus? This is human nature, which science must rise above if truth is ever to be learned.

Twila: "Oh well since they were told to leave THEIR HOME that must make it all right? First, where were they going to go?"

Read the very informative book "Did Six Million Really Die". You will see that it is a matter of public record (still available in the newspaper archives of that time: not just in Germany, but elsewhere around the world) that the Jews -- as a group -- declared themselves against the government of Germany, and were PUBLICLY asking britain to go to war with Germany. This made them -- by INTERNATIONAL LAW! -- "enemy combatants" on German soil. In the U.S. and Canada, there are similar laws. Imagine what would happen to ANY group that was advocating violent overthrow of the government in either the U.S. or Canada, ESPECIALLY after 9/11!! George "Dubya" would have any such group members as he could round up sent to "Git'mo". And incidently, while the Red Cross was allowed to visit prisoners of the COncentration Camps, Bush does NOT allow the Red Cross into Git'mo. Germany was completely within its rights -- again, by INTERNATIONAL LAW -- to round-up all Jews and place them under arrest. What do you think woulkd happen to any known Al Q'aeda members in the U.S. right now?


Twila: "And the internment camps for the American Japanese and Canadian Japanese WAS WRONG!! The stealing of their business and their homes and their possessions WAS WRONG"

Not at all: it was 100% legal, in perfect agreement with INTERNATIONAL LAW. Think of the logic: would YOU want potential enemy combatants on your soil? Look at the post 9/11 days in America: would YOU have wanted to try getting on a plane if you looked Arabic? Just ask many of those who DID: it was not pleasant for them. Was this "fair" to them? I'm sure they did not feel it was: but you can see the "better safe than sorry" methodology that was at work: was it better to bruise a few feelings as people were "singled out" for scrutiny...or risk another building full of dead people?

And remember, in those days, drivers licenses and other "official" papers did not even have PICTURES on them! There were no computer databases, etc., so it was VERY easy for Japanese to enter the country for nefarious purposes. Once Japan became our enemy, there was No WAY the U.S. and Canada could allow for that possibility. they did the right thing in rounding them all up. Better that than have them perpetrating who knows what while free and at large. Today, the situation is a bit different: but you have to think of how it was THEN, not now.



Twila: As for your statement about Simon Wiesenthal:

Simon Wiesenthal, writing in his book "Books and Bookmen", page 5: "No gassing took place in any camp on German soil."

And to move it up a notch, why note quote from the FOUNDER of Israel himself, Nathan Goldman, who ADMITS that, without the "Guilt Trip" of the "Holocaust", the Jews would never have been able to convince the world to steal Israel for them!

"Since the Second World War, Jews have been treated with silk gloves. Without Auschwitz, there would be no Israel." -- by Nathan Goldmann, the Founder of Israel: "Paris Match", December 29, 1979



Twila: "even the leader of the Neo Nazi movement in German, Ingo Hasselbach apologized for his actions and now works tirelessly to make people aware of the lies that are still being perpetrated by holocaust deniers and the die hard neo nazi's."

Were you aware that, in Germany today, you can be thrown into jail for saying ANYTHING against the "Holocaust"? yes, "Holocaust Denial" is a "crime" punishable by jail time! So is possessing a copy of "mein Kampf", or possessing the Swastika in any way, shape, or form? (Even though it was a Hindu Religious Symbol LONG before the Nazis used it! Talk about suppression of religious freedom!) very likely what happened with poor Mr. Hasselbach is that he was threatened with arrest and LOOOONG imprisonment for any or all of the above "crimes" if he did not agree to become their puppet spokesman. You know, the way the famous actors and actresses who get caught doing drugs, drunk driving, etc. used to get off by making anti-drug/alcohol commercial without pay? It was called "Community Service". Criminals get off on "plea bargains" all the time in such ways: just ask ANY lawyer.

Yes, it is possible that Mr. Hasselbach simply had a change of heart: without speaking to the man directly, we'll never know what REALLY happened. But considering that history professors who have had TENURE at such institutions as MIT and Harvard (i.e., people in MUCH better positions to ascertain the truth or falsehood of historical claims! They are EXPERTS in their field, after all!) have been DISMISSED after expressing their opinions regarding the grossly exaggerated numbers for the "Holocaust"...it is safe to assume that Mr. Hasselbach -- being well aware of the facts, as all good Neo-Nazis would be! -- did not have a change of heart based upon the facts. I am ***NOT*** a Neo Nazi, but merely a scientist, and ***I*** had my eyes opened after seeing a mountain of facts that I cannot even BEGIN to discourse here! I was a physicist prior to my retirement, so this historical issue was completely new to me: I only knew what I had heard on the news over the years, and of course, what we were all fed in school. When I took a look at the facts -- and yes, I had to separate out a LOT of mindless racist rhetoric that simply spun in circles: a definite CHORE, that was! -- it became clear that, while Jews had clearly been rounded-up and imprisoned during WWII, there had been no "gas chambers", and the numbers of dead were MUCH less than the "6 Million" always touted by the Jews. I also discovered -- hold onto your hat here! -- that the Jews had tried this same "6 Million Died" stunt in WORLD WAR ONE!!! Yes, I said "ONE", not "TWO"! It didn't fly back then, so they quickly dropped it...but the historical record is still there: just go to a library with a decent newspaper archive that reaches back to WWI, and you'll see the news stories for yourself! They trotted it out then and it didn't work...so they tried it again in WWII, to much greater effect. I'm NOT making this up: you can go see it for yourself in the microfilm archives. If you want specific dates and newspaper names, read some of the VERY well-written and researched books on the subject. Since many of them have been censored by various governments, you can get them FREE from many online sites as .PDFs. Avoid the ones NOT written by PhDs, and you'll be much happier: they will give no rhetoric, no racisism: just the facts. And the facts are VERY enlightening...
 

malklaka

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Tried It: "I have to say this is the one and only time Ive ever seen Hitler referred to as "a nice guy. Tell ya what, malklaka. I don't much like you, so Im telling you to move. Sell everything and get out. Give up life as you know it. If you're not gone in three years I'll gas you and your family. Deal? Im a nice person after all..."

<G> Yes, in a free country, you are free to express your opinion, and I respect that. But the critical difference is that what germany/Hitler did was 100% in keeping with International Law! You see, the Jews were not "innocent": they -- as an organized group with VAST control of the media of Germany (similar to in the U.S. today) -- were advocating for a violkent overthrow of the German Government, as well as publicly urging Britain to attack Germany. In the U.S. and Canada, that is called TREASON, and you can be SHOT for it! Urging a foreign power to go to WAR with your country while your still LIVING there??? Wow...talk about arrogant!

No...Hitler acted 100% legally with respect to the Jews. And since no evidence has EVER surfaced to suport the old "Gas Chamber" myth (none were ever found: the only one existing today is one BUILT by the RUSSIANS (under control of Jewish Communists after WWII, remember! Ask any history teacher: the WINNERS write history!) based upon rumors/myths of "survivors". The Russians literally BUILT a Gas Chamber as part of an "Historical Restoration" of the Concentration Camp, where none had been before. There were ***NO*** Gas Chambers in existence at ANY of the Conecntration Camps when they were liberated, nor remains of any. It was a myth, plain and simple.
 

Unforgiven

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Yes, in a free country, you are free to express your opinion, and I respect that. But the critical difference is that what germany/Hitler did was 100% in keeping with International Law! You see, the Jews were not "innocent": they -- as an organized group with VAST control of the media of Germany (similar to in the U.S. today) -- were advocating for a violkent overthrow of the German Government, as well as publicly urging Britain to attack Germany

And the final solution was really just trying to get not just Germany but all of Europe to convince Jews to take a holiday first in Poland and then in a few other parts of Hitler's Holiday Camp.

Dude are you on some sort of medication?
 

Twila

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Malklaka, I'm guessing that your comprehension skills are lacking. Easily found:
3. Did Simon Wiesenthal once state in writing that "there were no extermination camps on German soil"?
The IHR says (original):
Yes. In Books and Bookmen, April, 1975 issue. He claims the "gassings" of the Jews took place in Poland.
The IHR says (revised):
Yes. The famous "Nazi hunter" wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24, 1993. He also claimed that "gassings" of Jews took place only in Poland.
Nizkor replies:
Wiesenthal's 1975 letter to the editor said:
Because there were no extermination camps on German soil the Neo-Nazis are using this as proof that these crimes did not happen [...]
How ironic that he was not only correct, but that those very words were later misused in the manner he described.
Both answers are correct in themselves: Wiesenthal did indeed indicate in 1975 and in 1993 that there were no extermination camps in what is now Germany. Innocuous as the change seems, it does lead the reader to assume that the most recent statement is some kind of admission that the Holocaust was much more limited than has been maintained and that the truth is finally coming out. Statements like Wiesenthal's are in fact the basis upon which deniers claim that their pressure is forcing the truth out of reluctant historians.
The truth is that historians, and others like Wiesenthal, have attempted repeatedly over the years to dispel several myths about the Holocaust: the mass production of soap made from human fat is a good example.
Another misconception which they have tried to dispel is that the bulk of the extermination of the Jews took place within Germany itself -- or, more properly, within the "Altreich," the prewar boundaries of Germany. While there were indeed gas chambers and homicidal gassings in the Altreich, they were on a much smaller scale than the gassings in the camps in Nazi-occupied Poland, such as Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka, Kulmhof/Chelmno, Maidanek/Majdanek, and Auschwitz-Birkenau. About three million people, almost exclusively Jews, were gassed to death in those camps. Camp gassings in the Altreich probably claimed the lives of only a few thousand people, almost certainly under ten thousand. Aside from "small-scale" gassing in places like Dachau, Gusen, Neuengamme, Sachsenhausen, Stutthof, and Ravensbrück, and Brandenburg, the site of the first gas chamber, it was largely confined to the "euthanasia" program, which did claim the lives of over a hundred thousand people, mostly non-Jews.
The Nazis had at least two good reasons for building the death camps outside of Germany. First, they were easier to conceal from the German people. Given the chaotic wartime conditions in the territory surrounding the Altreich, they were easier to conceal in general. As Richard Brietman pointed out while writing about the so-called "euthanasia" killings:
"It was one thing ... to kill hundreds of thousands of East European Jews on site in the East -- in inaccessible places, with police cordons preventing spectators from attending. It was quite another thing to murder Jews in Germany or Western European countries... " ...The false causes of death reported raised some suspicions, the residents in the vicinity of the gassing centers began to realize what was going on nearby, and other leaks occurred as well. Adverse public reaction and even signs of open protest induced Hitler to shut down the gassing centers ... the euthanasia killings continued in a more decentralized -- and even less noticeable -- fashion. Still, the experience did not generate confidence about the secrecy of killing on a large scale within Germany." ( Breitman, Richard. Official Secrets: What the Nazis Planned, What the British and Americans Knew, New York: Hill & Wang, 1998. pp 69-70)

Second, the vast majority of murdered Jews came from conquered territory to the east and south -- why go to extra trouble to ship them back
into Germany? (See the statistics at the end of question 1.)
What is not given any recognition by the deniers is that the latest "admission" by Wiesenthal is exactly what respectable historians have been saying for the past 45 years, starting perhaps with the Munich-based Institute for Contemporary History in 1950. This selectivity amounts to nothing less than lying by omission and innuendo.



So, did you catch that? He never denied gassings took place, only not in a certain location.

 

Twila

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Also let me add that all the documentary footage taken during the liberation must have been faked in order to dispel the "myth of the holocaust", according to you, right?

The mass graves of starving women and children? The mountains of shoes, clothes and hair in those grainy pictures taken by the allies must have forged? Couldn't have been real. How about the burned bodies that were trying to dig their way out of the sheds? the ones that were shot by the Nazi's during the "clean up"? faked?

Or was it the children's just desserts for not leaving Germany like they were asked?
 

shadowshiv

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I tried to completely read that new guy's posts, but my eyes glazed over with the sheer ignorance of them.:-?
 

malklaka

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Hatred has nothing to do with the facts. It never has, and it never should. Read the literature produced by PhD authors: NOT raving racist fanatics; not drunk rednecks spewing ignornace in some bar; we're talking here about professors of history at such institutions as MIT and Harvard: TENURED professors!

One solid example is Auschwitz: they changed the numbers on the plaque mounted at Auschwitz: that is a fact that any visitor can verify. But when one MIT professor mentioned that in his class, stating that the overall number must change if individual camps are changing THEIR numbers...he was fired for racism. He is, in fact, NOT a racist: he is simply a history professor who likes to have his facts straight: and when he sees glaring contradictons of the facts being upheld as the "holy gospel", he seeks to set the record straight. No more, no less.

Also witness the fact (again, "dredged up" by the aforemetnioned history professors) that the last census before Hitler took power as Chancellor in 1933 stated that there were 2.8 Million Jews in Europe. Since some (the ones who had the financial means) actually DID leave when Hitler started saying "Leave!"...simple common sense math tells us that something LESS than 2.8 million Jews would have been left after the "Holocaust". Hmmmm...how can 6 Million Jews die where only 2.8 Million previously lived? And then there are all of the survivors that have collected "reparations".

Bottom line: if the "Holocaust" were a fact, then those claiming it to BE a fact would have no problem with TENURED HISTORY PROFESSORS looking into the matter. These are people with no "agenda"; they are not racists, neo-Nazis or otherwise. They have nothing against the Jewish people, and if, in fact, the Holocaust happened exactly as the jews describe, and as many people died as they state, said professors would have no problem with those facts being stated in the history books. As i myself stated, I could really care less one way or the other: I simply want the facts straight, and it irks me when people try to prevent inquest into the facts. It brings to mind the burning at the stake of Bruno, and the arrest of Galileo!!! "recant or die" is ALWAYS the cry of the oppressors, NEVER the cry of the truth seeker!

They have updated the official figure for the "Speed of light in a vacuum" several times during my career. That did not upset me: the facts are continually being updated as we produce higher quality measuring instruments with which to measure physical quantities. For a physicist to get upset that a "new generation" was trying to somehow "outdo" them by refining such constants as the "speed of light"; well, that would be just SILLY! But do you know, the first time it was suggested that the figure for the speed of light might need revising, that is EXACTLY the type of resistance that was met with! Silly in retrospect, to be sure; but it happened: just as Bruno's bruning and Galileo's arrest actually happened!

That is all that these poor history profesors were saying: let us verify the facts. If the Jews' story is true, they have nothing to lose, and everything to gain from said verification of the facts. The fact that they are afraid to let unbiased professional historians (remember, we're talking about non-racist, non-neo-Nazi history professors here!) look into the matter speaks volumes! That is all I'm saying: methinks they doth protest too much...
 
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I'm not inclined to believe anything that comes from Hal Turner....smells of racism to me...........
It is racism.....Earnst zindall was tossed out of Canada for this stuff. And rightly so.
WWWII saw the first instance of bombing citizens en masse in cities,it was initiated by hitler against the brits.Their ally Japan paid the price for allying themselves with him. I believe they used the same tactic in manchuria.
 

malklaka

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Instead of referring to propaganda sites -- whether for OR against the "Holocaust" -- why not allow all professional historians to investigate the FACTS THEMSELVES? The Jews do not want this. Why? because they tried the "6 Million Jews Died" lie during WORLD WAR ONE...and it didn't "take". So they swept THAT under the rug (though newspaper archives STILL hold the story!), and started fresh in World War TWO.

A recent international convention of historians asked this very thing: why are we not allowed to even LOOK? Why are these questions forbidden to ask? In a field of science -- in this case, history -- there should be no forbidden questions. Again I ask, why are the Jews afraid of their purported "truth" being examined by experts? If the "Bad Guys" -- i.e., the Neo-Nazis -- are willing to allow these impartial 3rd party professional historians to settle the question (and what could be more FAIR, after all?), then why should the supposed "Good Guys" -- the Jews -- be afraid of allowing the same thing? It is always those who have something to HIDE who are afraid of the facts of a case being examined impartially. Note that IMPARTIALITY is the key here: we should not go by the neo-nazi, or racist sites...but neither should we go by the Jews' sites. Only impartial, 3rd party experts -- professional historians -- can properly settle this issue. Let the experts do their job: the job they WANT to do, but are being PREVENTED from doing!
 

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What we really need, is a time machine, that way, we can take people back in time, so the idiots can see history as it really was, and not the way they would prefer to rewrite it. Having lived through a lot of this history, I find it disgusting to see the way hollywood tries to change history to include or exclude people who weren't even there. In this politically correct world, it seems that those who deserve it least, are trying hardest to be included.
 

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It seems to simply be as my good friend Jeffry Goines says..."There's no right or wrong there's only popular opinion.."

That human lives Jewish or North American plains indians or South and Central American aboriginal peoples' were lost due to greed, fascism, racism, the issue as far as who remembers which atrocity as the more relevant will be those who are around to control the media and the sentiment....

Exterminating hundreds of thousands of Japanese was OK ...because they invaded America....

Exterminating plains indians and aboriginal people in the name of taking their land and pursuing profit was OK...they were a bunch of savages who'd invaded Europe anyway....

Exterminating millions of Russians because they didn't embrace Soviet principles was OK just think what might have happenned if they were allowed to resist...

If the Japanese or the Russians or the Plains Indians or the Mayans or the Aztecs controlled todays press and media through Hollywood or enjoying positions of control over the five major media outlets of the world....the "holocuast" would take on a different shape and sentiment would be just as divided whether it was an "honorable" thing to question these slaughters or not....

It just depends of course on which lens of which color you happen to be looking through....

Perhaps there'll be a host of monuments and rememberence days for the 500,000 killed by the United States and Britain in the Iraq conflict....who knows....

But unless this propensity to slaughter each other is fully understood,....nothing will nor has ever changed....

If it takes some massaged "guilt" by the Jews to remind people that war and greed don't legitimize wholesale slaughter...if that worked....who cares?

We can turn our backs on Rwanda and millions suffering all over the world but that isn't a holocaust because no one is actively killing these people...right?

There's a difference between being indifferent and dropping bombs or using gas chambers right?

Sure and from time to time, killing a few Bosnians or a few Serbians or the "enemy of the day" will seem perfectly acceptable.....

Just listen to the spin....