- Niflmir ... Of course you meant no offence when you maliciously falsified my quote nor would I if I ever did the same thing to you.
Obama's SOTU Address Sophistry
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- Niflmir ... Of course you meant no offence when you maliciously falsified my quote nor would I if I ever did the same thing to you.
Did I touch a nerve by doing exactly as you requested?
Most people outgrow the, "I'll insult you with the exact same insult," phase by the time they are 6 and realize it makes them look petty and unimaginative. Are you old enough to be on this forum? Although, given the age demographic of republican party ideologues (no offense to you swing voters), perhaps you are so old you have forgotten how to properly insult a person. Only in a small mind (apparently, yours) is it in insult to be called homosexual or a female, which is why I pointed out that no offense was meant.
DaS... the Democrat leadership knows their base and their base is not very bright. All they need to do is lie once and that is enough. They get it. They have finally figured it out. They now know facts are not needed.
With their base is as stupid as they are it is no longer amazing to me. It used to amaze me but no longer.
The base of any political party is never bright. Almost by definition. It is as simple as this: the base will never vote for the other party. So why pander to the base? The swing votes get pandered to and the base gets ignored. The rhetoric is framed in terms the base appreciates, the follow through is determined by the will of the swing votes if the candidate is politically savvy.
For all the GOP's talk of not being dependent, they states where they win are overwhelmingly the states that are taking in more federal money than they pay in taxes. The GOP base are the dependents!
A person who cannot imagine a situation where they would change who they vote for ought to entertain the notion that they are not very bright.
Let me guess... funding for cities like Atlanta, Houston, Miami, New Orleans, Mobile, Dallas, Memphis, etc. Seeing a pattern here?
I need look no further than my Blue state of Massachusetts to see through that foolishness. The cities that get the most in funding are the worst areas, worst schools, most corruption, most crime, etc.
You aren't going to find many Republicans at the public trough.
Most crime, most corruption? These are the republican states. Kind of shows where the money goes don't it?
That does fit on both extremes all right. Not so much in the middle where voters kind of go back and forth in search of a good politician. Probably better odds of winning the lottery.
No: Farm subsidies, military bases, research laboratories, medicare, social security, energy subsidies, nutritional subsidies. Cities take money from state taxes, do they not?
If you take an honest look, you find a lot of Republicans benefiting more from the federal government than Democrats. Calling it feeding is just partisan rhetoric however, as most of the benefit is not welfare or unemployment insurance. But hey, you are free to show your partisan colors.
Blue state, red face: Guess who benefits more from your taxes?
I am talking about the major cities. You knew that right?
The ones that get screwed the most that is for sure. But believe me... the GOP base is not dependent on the Federal Govt.
The insinuation that Red States get the most means that the GOP states have their hands out looking for a free ride. Just as you pointed out with military bases. The larger ones are down south. Lejuene, Bragg, etc. So they factor stuff like that in and say that GOP states receive more. A military base can run a tab up real quick.
Walter,
Your graph is unbe(effing)lievable. Let's start a graph war.
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Sure, here's a better one:
"Under Obama’s watch the national debt has risen from roughly $10 trillion to $15 trillion, a record high. But to what extent are his decisions while in office to blame? The answer: very little. The vast bulk of the debt is the result of policies enacted during the Bush administration coupled with automatic increases in federal spending and decreases in tax revenue triggered by the economic downturn."
How Bush-Fueled Deficits Continue To Haunt Obama (CHART) | TPMDC
I do believe we have discussed all this before. {Ahem} A few times at least. But if you persist in believing the Tea Baggers and their allies, I suppose you will not be convinced of the truth. Well, at least the majority didn't believe your side last November.
Drivel. The Stimulus at 700 billion plus, now part of the baseline, has contributed most to the huge increase in the deficit. The stimulus is totallly on the Bamster.
Nope... and giving out loans to everyone who wanted a house because owning a house became a right of every citizen.
Clinton did absolutely nothing wrong when he repealed the Glass Stegal Act, and coerced the banks to make high risk loans.
It was all Bush.
Actually, Teddy is correct. These are stats that the government provided even prior to the election, but I guess nobody cared!