Bush talked about crusades. 911 and Jihad was a direct result of our interference in Middle Eastern affairs. We will never "get along" as long as we try making others behave the way we think they should. It is people like you and a mind set like yours that is the cause of all the strife and conflict in the world.
Obama's "secret" wars - More dangerous than terrorism
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By that method of thinking, Muslim immigration caused the Norway massacre.
In both cases, the logic is seriously flawed.
As for secret operations, kill the enemy where you find them.
One day we will get along, ......
On which universe?? THAT, will NEVER happen. There is no percentage for folks to get along. Plus folks like the militant amercans LOVE war , killing, guns and more war too much. It is the only remaining "export" they have ....
........just wait until the $$$ well runs dry and all that fancy military equipment is left to rust ......leaving america, totally broke and wondering what happened. AS the deluded are still seduced by the fantasy called "american dream) having been out of touch with reality for decades. America burns as the Housewives of washington bicker , bite, and otherwise do everything to protect their political positions.
On which universe?? THAT, will NEVER happen. There is no percentage for folks to get along. Plus folks like the militant amercans LOVE war , killing, guns and more war too much. It is the only remaining "export" they have ....
........just wait until the $$$ well runs dry and all that fancy military equipment is left to rust ......leaving america, totally broke and wondering what happened. AS the deluded are still seduced by the fantasy called "american dream) having been out of touch with reality for decades. America burns as the Housewives of washington bicker , bite, and otherwise do everything to protect their political positions.
That makes absolutely no sense in relation to what I said.
"We have met the enemy and he is us." - Pogo
Secret ops are good, they only need small armies and are far cheaper.
Thing is, I never started the crusades, but the fact of their existence is strongly impressed in many minds. Arab adults have an expression they say to kids, "If you're not good, King Richard will get you." I didn't make that expression up either. Most of their problems are self-inflicted.
The Assad family could stop running Syria like a familly business create a democratic state, but they refuse to. Ask the Assads why they are being so backward, feudal, and archaic when the population wants a progressive, democratic and modern nation. Can't blame whitey imperialists here sonny. Adults usually look for blame inward first.
What freakin' business is it of yours or ours for that matter. If the Syrians want democracy, they will have to fight for it like everybody else did. When you find a democratic state that is not corrupted into a corporate dictatorship, let me know.
that means any kind of killing is acceptable on the above terms. America always needs an enemy to justify its existence and the massive military complex. Even if it has to create them. AND CREATE ENEMIES it does ......with a talent that is frightening.
The US has created enemies of so many groups , nations, and leaders it is sickening. But it has to satisfy the gluttonous KILL machine. As it stands with the current "thinking".......just about everyone is america's enemy now...or will be as soon as the US finds something to bitch about. In view of that they might as well kill everyone they come across.....as when it comes to killing, the US does NOT discriminate.
STOP creating enemies and STOP the love of aggression and wars.
Globalization makes Syria our business. No one lives in a bubble. We helped eastern Europe become democratic, we can help Syria and Asia and Africa. But we can't help them too much and they don't want it. We want states that don't want to attack us or let other fools within their state attack us. Half a democratic loaf where the govt doesn't torture people is a good start too.
Oh, like the US? Speaking of living in bubbles.
People would not be inclined to attack us if we would stop attacking them.
where the govt doesn't torture people is a good start too
You have to be kidding. Talk about residing in some alternate universe. Nothing like a nation that TORTURES, has secret prisons , and has devolved into something foreign to a democracy as its own freedoms are gradually eroded ......to go ;around the planet spreading its version of "democracy"...... as if it even had the right to.
REGIME changes in other nations are ILLEGAL. WE have no right to interfere in other nations anymore than they have the right to interfere on our countries.
How sad, that the US has and will continue to use the gift of terrorism to target nations that would be of special interest to them...under the guise of "security " and other lies.
You have to be kidding. Talk about residing in some alternate universe. Nothing like a nation that TORTURES, has secret prisons , and has devolved into something foreign to a democracy as its own freedoms are gradually eroded ......to go ;around the planet spreading its version of "democracy"...... as if it even had the right to.
REGIME changes in other nations are ILLEGAL. WE have no right to interfere in other nations anymore than they have the right to interfere on our countries.
How sad, that the US has and will continue to use the gift of terrorism to target nations that would be of special interest to them...under the guise of "security " and other lies.
Regime changes are illegal? Overthrowing brutal dictatorships is illegal? International relations is a very messy business. You can't be too definite here, the situation is very fluid, there is always inadequate information. Kicking out the Taliban was no problem, it was done in a few months. Staying a decade was a waste. But there were domestic poltical reasons like building up the military.
Europe and Canada have largely given up invading other nations. That problem child, the USA, hasn't. But we still like to hang with the dominant imperial power, a bad habit too as it doesn't necessarily enhance our security. Fact is, the world is a dangerous place and some countries like the USA are overly aggresive in response to it.
Europe and Canada have largely given up invading other nations. That problem child, the USA, hasn't. But we still like to hang with the dominant imperial power, a bad habit too as it doesn't necessarily enhance our security. Fact is, the world is a dangerous place and some countries like the USA are overly aggresive in response to it.
Taliban kicked out in months? Given up invading nations? We are selling ice cream in Libya? Where do you come up with this crap?
I'm just pointing out the absolute hypocricy. Clean up your own mess then point fingers.
You aren't dropping bouquets of flowers on the Libyan people and you have troops all over the world.
Obama's Secret Wars: How Our Shady Counter-Terrorism Policies Are More Dangerous Than Terrorism
Obama should be held accountable for vastly expanding the military establishment's worldwide license to kill.
July 11, 2011 |
Although President's Obama's partial Afghan troop withdrawal announcement has received more attention, his June 29 "National Strategy for Counterterrorism" is of far greater long-term significance. This remarkable document states that the U.S. government intends to "disrupt, dismantle, and eventually defeat al-Qa'ida and its affiliates and adherents," in the following "areas of focus": "The Homeland, South Asia, Arabian Peninsula, East Africa,Europe, Iraq, Maghreb and Sahel, Southeast Asia (and) Central Asia."
Obama's Secret Wars: How Our Shady Counter-Terrorism Policies Are More Dangerous Than Terrorism | | AlterNet
this is not about "terrorism". Terrorism is the cloak / excuse used for other motives.
So how is Obama's continuation of the Bush's "t'rrrerist" policy dangerous? Obama didn't invent 'Homeland Security' or WMD. lol.
He didn't invent any of the problems he is trying to solve.
He doesn't have much choice. the US is officially a MILITANT nation. That is what defines the US now....and has for some time. The war policy must be maintained as it is the only one that gets the mega bucks as a priority when it comes to funding.
but yes.......it is a complete shame that it has evolved ( devolved ) into such a state.
No he didn't .........but he has changed his objectives from when he was a candidate to when he took over office due to the fact his power is limited when it comes to actuallizing his goals. He promised to end the occupations. Some progress there. He is battling an uphill battle with everything he wants to achieve. The obstructionists have more power and all that does is yeiled a stalemate.
His ideas have been exellent.......but it is the system itself that prevents the changes needed and as quickly as they can be made.
Well he can take small comfort in the fact that he is not alone. If a president isn't bowing to it then he is actively supporting it. The US military-industrial complex is like an immense jelly fish whose tentacles extend into every facet of the American economy. It's poison spreads across the political landscape shaping the tenets of parties and holding them hostage to fortune. IMHO.
Killing them will only feed the fire of hate.
9/11 was a fake.
The 9/11 examination board concluded it could not have been explosives
Cause no loud sounds where reported. wrong!!!!!
I've seen 4-5 video's with loud explosive sounds. And many testifying that, loud explosives
where herd.
Ask any steel construction worker and they will all laugh at you if you think a building could go down like that from anything other then a demolition.
We where never attacked.
We are out there killing innocent, people
Anyone that supports this war is a retard.
90% of Canadian's are retards
9/11 was a fake.
The 9/11 examination board concluded it could not have been explosives
Cause no loud sounds where reported. wrong!!!!!
I've seen 4-5 video's with loud explosive sounds. And many testifying that, loud explosives
where herd.
Ask any steel construction worker and they will all laugh at you if you think a building could go down like that from anything other then a demolition.
We where never attacked.
We are out there killing innocent, people
Anyone that supports this war is a retard.
90% of Canadian's are retards