Nurses report being exhausted

Cannuck

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Outside of dairy which is daily up at 4am milking by 5am, let's review your post in 3 weeks when there are tractors driving up and down roads and fields by 5am, prep for the day begins by 4am
Yup, they gotta work a few weeks a year. That leaves lots of extra free time to whine about not getting their handouts that they're entitled to.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Don't know how the hrs work there.......but in BC Nurses get a 2 hr break during the twelve hrs.

Personally I don't like it............ as the risk of fatigue related mistakes increase The quality of care can be affected.

It used to be 8 hr shifts and that was hard enough.
 

Serryah

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Don't know how the hrs work there.......but in BC Nurses get a 2 hr break during the twelve hrs.

Personally I don't like it............ as the risk of fatigue related mistakes increase The quality of care can be affected.

It used to be 8 hr shifts and that was hard enough.


I think there's a given two hours total for 'breaks' - ie lunch and supper or supper and breakfast - plus two fifteen minute breaks here in NB but during the day sometimes you can't get those breaks, depending on patient count and how busy it is. At night it's a little easier, but not much. Sometimes they don't get breaks at all, or a few short ones several times over the night as they can get them.
 

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I think there's a given two hours total for 'breaks' - ie lunch and supper or supper and breakfast - plus two fifteen minute breaks here in NB but during the day sometimes you can't get those breaks, depending on patient count and how busy it is. At night it's a little easier, but not much. Sometimes they don't get breaks at all, or a few short ones several times over the night as they can get them.


What's the ratio of the # of nurses covering the night shift compared to the day shift?
 

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Good thing city workers don't run the emergency room. It is the Patients that are supposed to have 'the good days'. If the heath services was any good at their job the hospitals should almost be empty.

Perhaps patients just don't get tired of finding new way to mess with the health professionals.
 

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The green was by mistake, I couldn't believe what you wrote on what universe do you live in that there is no need for Hydraulics for farm equipment? That is utter BS and you have better come up with a credible link for that comment, every piece of equipment on the farm uses hydraulics to operate and will continue for a very long time.
You could probably use air in place of hydraulics in many applications however if that was feasible and cheaper it would be in common use .
 

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well that absolutely explains your complete ;lack of interest in an electric technology that would be many times more efficient and dependable than IC.
Do you understand that electric tractors also eliminate the need for hydraulics?
I find it amazing since every farmer I know is obsessively pursuing even the slightest increase in productivity.
ROFLMFAO. Best whopper yet. You really should learn at least the basics of a subject before you post stupid.
 

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What's the ratio of the # of nurses covering the night shift compared to the day shift?


At the hospital I work at, we have one 'floor' that caters to in patients, which varies from recovery to observations to long term stays (waiting for nursing homes/other permanent stay situations), detox and other stuff. It's a 21 bed hospital, with 1 overflow on the floor.



So during the day, optimum nurses for a full house, as it were, is 4-5 nurses. Night shifts 3-4. There IS an 8 hour shift during the day in there but I'm not sure if it's full time or part time.


A lot of the time, there isn't that many nurses. It's more likely to see 3-4 during the day and 2-3 at night.



Also, we have Emerg where the nurses there are supposed to come relieve the floor RN's at night, but that doesn't happen much at all.

With that, sometimes because it's needed, we have three beds in Emerg that are designated 'overflow' as well. Normally that's for patients who are waiting to go to the floor, but if the floor is full, then they stay until someone is discharged. They don't stay there long and I can only remember once or twice where someone stayed longer than a day. The problem with that is those beds are now taken from Emerg use, and nurses there have to answer bells for those in patients, as well as deal with normal Emerg patients. Staffing there during the day, from 7 to 4 is maximum 3 nurses (with one doing clinicals and helping when not busy) and from 1900 to 7, two nurses. The ward clerks there can help a little - our ward clerks do more in our facility than in, say, Moncton - but they're only there for the two 8 hour day shifts. There's no clerk at night (though I can do some of their duties). We also do Day Surgeries at our place and if it's a horrible staffing day, sometimes a nurse will be pulled from there once the last case is done to work in Emerg to cover.
 

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You could probably use air in place of hydraulics in many applications however if that was feasible and cheaper it would be in common use .


Air cannot provide enough pressure that a fluid can provide for things like holding jacks in place for hours, plus a small air leak can create havoc in metering and depth control
 

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Air cannot provide enough pressure that a fluid can provide for things like holding jacks in place for hours, plus a small air leak can create havoc in metering and depth control
I don’t disagree . Just stating that air rams do some functions hydraulics do .
 

petros

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A farmer needs to throw down and dig in crazy hours when the time comes, being it seeding or harvest or as their own mechanic or hydraulics specialist and so on and so forth. Most folks I know that farm do mixed farming/ranching so it's time consuming.
Even strictly grain is a year round job. There is always something to do in any market driven commodity.

Missing a news report can cost a fortune.

You can't tell me having to listen to GX94 everyday to keep informed isn't an unpleasant task that must be done no matter how agonizing.

It's work.
 

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How much work is done by nurses that could be done by people with lesser training given a change in rules?


Depends on what you mean by nurses.

In NB, LPN's cannot be legally thought of as 'nurses' on the same scale as RN's are. In other places in Canada, from what I understand, they are considered nurses but NB hasn't made that shift yet, and likely won't due to issues that'd come up with it with the RN association and the government.


That said...

In our hospital, RN's and LPN's can do nearly the same jobs with a few limited differences - mostly admin type differences.



PCW's do a lot of the 'scut work' that LPN's used to do.


In the end, there's still not enough staff to cover for all the shifts, and it's not just in nursing. Even security is seriously lacking and IMO they are not paid enough to make up for the shyte they end up dealing with.