Not all Jews are Zionists

eanassir

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Palestine is the heart of the Arab land, which is now occupied by Zionists.
Palestine is here before the coming of you and your fathers and grandfathers.
Palestine is here before the Hebrew crossed the Euphrates.
 

gerryh

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Palestine is the heart of the Arab land, which is now occupied by Zionists.
Palestine is here before the coming of you and your fathers and grandfathers.
Palestine is here before the Hebrew crossed the Euphrates.


Tell me ennassir, what does the Old Testament say about who lived in and around Jerusalem,and Bethlehem way back when?
 

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Palestine is the heart of the Arab land, which is now occupied by Zionists.
Were my questions to hard to answer?

Or were the answers to hard for you to face?

Here, let me answer them for you.

1, what does Palestine mean?

Philistine.


2, Who occupied the area, before England?

The Ottoman Empire.

3, who named the area Palestine?

The Ottoman Empire.

4, why did you forget about the appointment of the Grand Mufti, by England.

Because it doesn't help your case.


Palestine is here before the coming of you and your fathers and grandfathers.
Thanx for exhibiting more of your silly ignorance.
 

Just the Facts

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Not likely pizza joints. Brits weren't big on them. Violence?

King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No UN agency to look after the refugees? Sure they did ... and they named it Israel.

Not to split hairs or anything, but the King David Hotel bombing was directed against the British, not Arabs. Israel had not been declared yet, let alone Jerusalem having been divided, and I'm pretty sure the Hotel is not even in East Jerusalem anyway. But I can see why you would bring it up. :)

So where's the multi-billions from this UN agency? Details. :)
 

lone wolf

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Not to split hairs or anything, but the King David Hotel bombing was directed against the British, not Arabs. Israel had not been declared yet, let alone Jerusalem having been divided, and I'm pretty sure the Hotel is not even in East Jerusalem anyway. But I can see why you would bring it up. :)

So where's the multi-billions from this UN agency? Details. :)
It was still a terrorist act wasn't it? ...along with a few others - but if you're like some of the more goal-oriented folk here, the source, Rense.com, may preclude research through propaganda. The UN agency? It's a branch called the United States of America ;-)

Past Zionist-Jewish Terrorism - Some Historical Facts
 
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Just the Facts

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This is an obvious fallacy; because it is the country of Palestine which was occupied by England, which gave it to Jews.

That is an obvious fallacy, because approximately 80% of the land that composed what was known as the British Mandate of Palestine in 1917 was given to the Arabs in the 1920's. The ramianing 20% was then to be further divided between Arabs and Jews as per UN 181. Had the Arabs accepted UN 181 and declared a state instead of going to war, they would effectively had received approximately 87% of the land of the original British Mandate of Palestine.

Hardly adds up to "gave it to the Jews", does it?

But that wasn't, and continues not to be, good enough for the Arabs. The Arabs will not settle for anything less than everything.

By the way, you do realize that "Palestine" was the Greek translation for "Israel", right?



1, what does Palestine mean?

O darn sorry Bear I gave it away before I saw this post. :)

It was still a terrorist act wasn't it? ...along with a few others - but if you're like some of the more goal-oriented folk here, the source, Rense.com, may preclude research through propaganda. The UN agency? It's a branch called the United States of America ;-)

Past Zionist-Jewish Terrorism - Some Historical Facts

:) Except Israel more than pays for itself in return for the U.S. investment in it, it's hardly a chronic charity case, which is what UNWRA has turned the disputed territories into for over 60 years.

Were my questions to hard to answer?


1, what does Palestine mean?

Philistine.

I thought so too, but I learned recently that Palestine is actually the Greek translation for Israel. I learned this thanks to a post by EAO, of all people, lol. :) Laughed my ass off when I learned that.
 

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What happens if anti-semitism gets out of hand again, you have got to see it as a safe haven.. Bible stories aside, the jewish people need a foreign address to list when countries tell them to get out.
 

eanassir

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Were my questions to hard to answer?

Or were the answers to hard for you to face?

Here, let me answer them for you.

1, what does Palestine mean?

Philistine.


2, Who occupied the area, before England?

The Ottoman Empire.

3, who named the area Palestine?

The Ottoman Empire.

4, why did you forget about the appointment of the Grand Mufti, by England.

Because it doesn't help your case.


Thanx for exhibiting more of your silly ignorance.

You keep tricking people (after deliberately tricking yourselves).
Did the Ottoman invent Palestine? Was Palestine there on land before the Ottoman or not?
Do you stick to names or to facts?

E.g. Iraq in the past was called Mesopotamia; does this mean there was no Iraq in the past, or only its name has been changed?
 

eanassir

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Tell me ennassir, what does the Old Testament say about who lived in and around Jerusalem,and Bethlehem way back when?


I may tell you better about:

"the Quran 17: 104:
وَقُلْنَا مِن بَعْدِهِ لِبَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ اسْكُنُواْ الأَرْضَ فَإِذَا جَاء وَعْدُ الآخِرَةِ جِئْنَا بِكُمْ لَفِيفًا

The explanation:

(And - after him [: Moses] – We said to the Children of Israel “Sojourn in the land [of Canaan and Palestine], but when the promise of the last time [of your corruption] comes to pass We will bring you as multinational mass.)



The (لفيف) in Arabic means: a group from different countries, races and languages.

However, they have gathered in Palestine from every country in the world, and their power increased because of the support of America and England, and their wealth increased because of the donations which were offered to them from West Germany, America and many other states."

A Warning to Jews of Perishing, If they do not believe in the Quran
 

gerryh

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I may tell you better about:

"the Quran 17: 104:
وَقُلْنَا مِن بَعْدِهِ لِبَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ اسْكُنُواْ الأَرْضَ فَإِذَا جَاء وَعْدُ الآخِرَةِ جِئْنَا بِكُمْ لَفِيفًا

The explanation:

(And - after him [: Moses] – We said to the Children of Israel “Sojourn in the land [of Canaan and Palestine], but when the promise of the last time [of your corruption] comes to pass We will bring you as multinational mass.)



The (لفيف) in Arabic means: a group from different countries, races and languages.

However, they have gathered in Palestine from every country in the world, and their power increased because of the support of America and England, and their wealth increased because of the donations which were offered to them from West Germany, America and many other states."

A Warning to Jews of Perishing, If they do not believe in the Quran



Wrong answer, try again. I'm not really interested in the Quran's interpretation of the OT. How about you just quote the OT. Tell us what it say's about the land in and around Jerusalem and Bethlehem.

 

eanassir

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Gee, look at that, King David, King of Israel from 1010 to 970 B.C.E.

What about Dawood - salam be to him? He is our beloved one: a prophet among the righteous and a glorious king: God gave him the soveriegnty and prophet-hood: i.e. David or Dawood gathered botht the monarchy and the prophecy.

What does Israel mean? hint ,,,,,,,,,,it was never a physical thing nor ever could be

Israel is the title of Prophet Jacob son of Isaac son of Abraham.
Israel means: the servant of God.

I may start a thread to illustrate the comparison between the Muslim nation and the Israelite nation, but these men shouting will not let me explain that.

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A comparison between the Muslim and the Israelite nation

The Israelite nation: the chosen people of God under the leadership of Moses the servant of
God. This nation worked according to God's commandments and they preceded the Muslim nation.

Later on God sent Mohammed as the Prophet and revealed to him the Quran, and the Muslim nation was lead by Prophet Mohammed - salam be to him.

God revealed in the Quran 4: 26-28
يُرِيدُ اللّهُ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَكُمْ وَيَهْدِيَكُمْ سُنَنَ الَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ وَيَتُوبَ عَلَيْكُمْ وَاللّهُ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ

The explanation:
(God likes to explain to you, and to acquaint you about the rites of those before you, and to turn towards you; God is All-Knowing, Most Wise.
God wills to turn towards you, but those following their lusts try to let you deviate with so much deviation.
God wills to alleviate [the statements] for you; for surely man has been created weak.)

So the Israelite nation led by the prophets were the example for the Muslim nation to follow the righteous men and to reject the rebellious and blasphemous men among the Children of Israel.

Their Rebellion against Their Prophet
 

shadowshiv

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I'm going to say this once, and once only. Any more suicide talk like has been going on in a few threads now will not be tolerated. Gopher, that is, quite honestly, a little disturbed. Wishing or hoping, or even talking about it like you have(posting a picture of a handgun even!) goes way beyond disrespectful and further instances will be dealt with in a manner not to the liking of the one making the post.
 

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gerryh

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What about Dawood - salam be to him? He is our beloved one: a prophet among the righteous and a glorious king: God gave him the soveriegnty and prophet-hood: i.e. David or Dawood gathered botht the monarchy and the prophecy.



Israel is the title of Prophet Jacob son of Isaac son of Abraham.
Israel means: the servant of God.

I may start a thread to illustrate the comparison between the Muslim nation and the Israelite nation, but these men shouting will not let me explain that.

=============================================

A comparison between the Muslim and the Israelite nation

The Israelite nation: the chosen people of God under the leadership of Moses the servant of
God. This nation worked according to God's commandments and they preceded the Muslim nation.

Later on God sent Mohammed as the Prophet and revealed to him the Quran, and the Muslim nation was lead by Prophet Mohammed - salam be to him.

God revealed in the Quran 4: 26-28
يُرِيدُ اللّهُ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَكُمْ وَيَهْدِيَكُمْ سُنَنَ الَّذِينَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ وَيَتُوبَ عَلَيْكُمْ وَاللّهُ عَلِيمٌ حَكِيمٌ

The explanation:
(God likes to explain to you, and to acquaint you about the rites of those before you, and to turn towards you; God is All-Knowing, Most Wise.
God wills to turn towards you, but those following their lusts try to let you deviate with so much deviation.
God wills to alleviate [the statements] for you; for surely man has been created weak.)

So the Israelite nation led by the prophets were the example for the Muslim nation to follow the righteous men and to reject the rebellious and blasphemous men among the Children of Israel.

Their Rebellion against Their Prophet




I'm glad you have finally acknowledged that Israel has been around for a very long time. That the Nation of Israel has been around since long before Mohamed. Your post supporting this si much appreciated.