NDP clarifies Mulcair stance on marijuana

Cliffy

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Yup but how will govt scare people into more prisons and cops?
I don't think his prisons are meant for criminals. People are just going to have to wake up to the fact that the only thing to fear is fear itself. Then they might be able to think clearly and see what a crock this whole issue is.
 

relic

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More prisons,ha,they didn't get their 3500 new criminals in a month,so their closing Kingston.What a bunch of morons.
 

damngrumpy

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Pot became the new prohibition after booze became legal and it all about
funding law enforcement and justifying their existence. It is time to move
on. Making criminals of people like this is nonsense. It destroys their
ability to progress down the road of life, after youth as it were. We should
be putting money into things that matter and will enrich peoples lives in the
long run
 

Locutus

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Of course the stuff should be taxed.

What's more lame is the continued attempt to try and re-brand this neckbeard as 'Tom' outside of Quebec.

Tom. :lol:
 

Niflmir

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Works well here in the Netherlands.

Funny thing is. Marijuana is still illegal in the Netherlands. The police just don't charge people with possession offenses for small amounts (although they could). The coffee shops pay taxes (if I'm not mistaken), so somehow, they have a lucrative, taxed, criminal market here.
 

Locutus

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This is madness!

 

mentalfloss

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Works well here in the Netherlands.

Funny thing is. Marijuana is still illegal in the Netherlands. The police just don't charge people with possession offenses for small amounts (although they could). The coffee shops pay taxes (if I'm not mistaken), so somehow, they have a lucrative, taxed, criminal market here.

It must be tough living with such a scourge on your population. ;)
 

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What I think the real issue should be is, do you really want your children to be labeled criminals for the rest of their lives because they smoke pot?
 

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Yup but how will govt scare people into more prisons and cops?

More prisons,ha,they didn't get their 3500 new criminals in a month,so their closing Kingston.What a bunch of morons.
... :roll:

Speaking of morons.

Kingston and Leclerc are 19th Century prisons.

The Conservative prison expansion that had everyone whining out typical silly rhetoric, was simply because the present prison facilities are dated and unable to deal with the the present long term penal population, adequately, or humanely.

As petros is fond of saying, I predicted this, a long time ago... ;-)
 

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NDP clarifies Mulcair stance on marijuana
NDP leader doesn't believe jail sentence is appropriate for having small amount of the drug, party says

The New Democratic Party is trying to clear the air on leader Tom Mulcair's position on pot after the Young Liberals, hoping to score with younger Canadians on a day celebrated in marijuana culture, questioned his commitment to decriminalization.

Mulcair had created confusion about his party's position on March 18 when he said decriminalization would be "a mistake" because of the health risks associated with marijuana currently on the market.

But NDP spokesman George Soule said Friday that Mulcair was actually talking about legalization and said the NDP leader doesn't believe anyone should go to jail for possessing a small amount of marijuana.

Mulcair has also suggested having the issue reviewed by a royal commission.

The Young Liberals said earlier Friday they said would be distributing handouts and putting up posters quoting Mulcair's earlier comment on decriminalization.

"This is a new NDP, and we are going to tell people about it," said Samuel Lavoie, president of the Young Liberals of Canada, in a statement issued on April 20, a day widely known in marijuana culture as "4/20," when thousands gather for "smoke-ins" in cities across North America.

"A lot of young Canadians liked Mr. Layton, who was for the decriminalization of marijuana, but we are going to introduce them to Mr. Mulcair now and my guess is they are not going to be happy with his policies," said Lavoie.

During last year's election campaign, Layton had shied away from an outright policy on decriminalization, instead suggesting that the time had come for a full debate, what he referred to as "an adult conversation" on the subject.


Liberals vote to decriminalize marijuana

At its convention earlier this year, the Liberal Party passed a resolution in favour of legalizing marijuana.

The resolution, pushed for by the Young Liberals, is not binding on the party leadership, but Lavoie had said he would like to see it as part of the party's platform in 2015.

Interim Liberal leader Bob Rae would not say at the time if he favoured legalizing or decriminalizing marijuana, saying he was "comfortable" with the spirit of the resolution but that the party would have to look at the practical implications of turning it into official party policy.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper made a surprising admission earlier this week at the Summit of the Americas in Cartagena, Colombia when he told reporters that existing strategies to combat the drug trade are "not working."

Harper has not embraced legalization, however, saying April 16 in Santiago, Chile that "very, very few leaders think that anything should be done other than fighting this particular scourge on our populations."

NDP clarifies Mulcair stance on marijuana - Politics - CBC News

My MP is Paul Dewar, so why should I care what a Montreal MP has to say? I want to know where my local MP stands on the issue, not some other MP.

What? Are New Democrats not able to think for themselves without guidance from the party leader? They're just as bad as the Conservative Party!

That's one thing I did appreciate about the old Reform Party: it did allow its MPs considerable leeway to represent their own constituents rather than the party leader.

Also, what would be the big deal if Mulcair is against decriminalization but other NDP MPs are for it? Give each MP a free vote. Problem solved.

Is it really that complicated?

LOL! No Penguins in the Arctic, no Polar Bears in the Antarctic.

It's a the zoo of course. Whre else would penguins learn to play the cymbals?
 

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Bingo! They're ALL just as bad.

True enough.

Look at the turmoil when a few NDP MPs chose to vote to abolish the long-gun registry, and Turmel proposed punishing them. To me, that's paramount to punishing their constituents along with them.

Scott Reid, a Conservative MP, is known to have voted against the Conservative Party too, especially with regards to security bills when he feels they go too far (he may be a member of the Conservative Party, but he definitely has a Libertarian steak about him).

Left or right, I respect MPs who have the balls to stand up for their constituents and to hell with the party leader.
 
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... :roll:

Speaking of morons.

Kingston and Leclerc are 19th Century prisons.

The Conservative prison expansion that had everyone whining out typical silly rhetoric, was simply because the present prison facilities are dated and unable to deal with the the present long term penal population, adequately, or humanely.

As petros is fond of saying, I predicted this, a long time ago... ;-)
Is everything ****ing partisan to you? It's fantastic the antiquities are being closed down, it's fantastic current inmates can be transfered to already existing facilities without the need for new. It's wonderful crime has fallen sharply and there is room. I say "too ****ing bad" to union thug guards of the "prison industry" who are whining about job losses. I say big ****ing deal to the city of Kingston, they can find another "industry" but when you bring up humane treatment I have to ask what the **** are you thinking? Research a little into the cuts to the staffing that actually tries to rehabilitate the inmates and meet their healthcare needs, education needs, and community needs. Do we need people warehouses or do we need rehabilitation facilites?
 

CDNBear

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Is everything ****ing partisan to you?
Asks the guy that made this about the present gov't.



It's irrelevant what party is the sitting gov't. Far to many Canadian penal facilities, are antiquated. There is already case law regarding conditions, and cases before the courts, undermining sentencing.

The rest of your post is your usual conglomeration of distraction techniques.
 

mentalfloss

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True enough.

Look at the turmoil when a few NDP MPs chose to vote to abolish the long-gun registry, and Turmel proposed punishing them. To me, that's paramount to punishing their constituents along with them.

Scott Reid, a Conservative MP, is known to have voted against the Conservative Party too, especially with regards to security bills when he feels they go too far (he may be a member of the Conservative Party, but he definitely has a Libertarian steak about him).

Left or right, I respect MPs who have the balls to stand up for their constituents and to hell with the party leader.

It's a whip vote, so they are free to go against the grain, but would lose some perks like free travel.

It really depends on how much we value the strength of a party's overarching platform.
 

CDNBear

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I brought up right or left or Conservative or Liberal? Point it out?
I'm not wading through all the threads that you have whined about new prisons and present policy.

Your asinine rhetoric is what what it is. Deal with it.

It's a whip vote, so they are free to go against the grain, but would lose some perks like free travel.
How do you feel about that?

It really depends on how much we value the strength of a party's overarching platform.