Bankruptcy is a small price to pay for a strong and proud military force capable of pillaging other states to pay its wages, reload its rifles and fill its gas tanks.
NATO warned to start paying its bills
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Bankruptcy is a small price to pay for a strong and proud military force capable of pillaging other states to pay its wages, reload its rifles and fill its gas tanks.
I think the answer is very clear. Canada, along with other nations, signed onto an agreement say says, short formed, we will stand together to deter aggression. Part of that agreement was a financial obligation. Canada and the others should cough up the cash they agreed to contribute.
If you do not wish to pay, opt out, but you should not expect a free ride.
If you do not wish to pay, opt out, but you should not expect a free ride.
Hey peeps... if other NATO members do not feel they need to make the commitment then the US should not either.
The Russians are in no position to put boots on the ground on the west coast but they can surely roll across Europe.
I thumbed up the post above yours as usual
you are always wrong anyway so you should be used to that by now
I don't know what was wrong about it. You need one heck of a navy and an amphibious force to conduct landing operations on a massive scale. Look at the size of the D-Day landing force and that was just crossing the English Channel.
Maybe I was exaggerating a bit about rolling across Europe. The Russians could certainly take the Baltic States.
Maybe I was exaggerating a bit about rolling across Europe. The Russians could certainly take the Baltic States.
Canadians are peace keepers...
We pay for lesbians with binoculars to monitor genocide in other countries, while doing absolutely nothing to stop it.
We pay for lesbians with binoculars to monitor genocide in other countries, while doing absolutely nothing to stop it.
A generation is considered 20 years. When one considers that 28 years have elapsed since the Wall fell, we have one generation (actually two) that don't remember much, if anything at all, about the cold war in Europe. To them, it's just dusty old history. The under 40 crowd thinks that what happened is old news. Some, like the Millennials, should understand the value of team work (like NATO team work), but I guess this is difficult to grasp outside of one's work environment. Aggression won't happen here. (And if it did, that would be unfair!)
Putin is more of a threat to world peace IMO simply because Russia is closer to the action. He is involved with politics the ME, with no plans to back out. There's oil to be had and he wants some. Russia is not as large as the old USSR, but they are by no means 'bit players' in the scheme of things.
North Americans, for the most part, are blissfully unaware of what is happening on the other side of the world. Some figure that if you ignore Russia, or the ME, the problems associated with immigration, there will be no ill effects. Sadly, many of these people feel the best way to deal with difficulties is to post something on FB, or start an online petition. That makes the problem will go away, don't you know!
That's not even poor planning. That's no planning.
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Oh, PALEASE!
We're one of the very richest people's on the face of the Earth. Bankruptcy is nowhere near sight.
It's typical Canadian cheap-**** parsimony and most Canadians have felt more-or-less the way that you do for most of our history. We relied on the British to protect us, then on the Americans. In times of national emergency (we haven't been this close to one for some time, now) we scramble about, trying to reconstute our forces out of thin air. It between, our overtaxed servicepeople become experts at fixing and maintaining ancient gear with chewing gum and gun tape, all of the time risking life and limb because the tight-a55ed Canadians doesn't give a rat's petoot about what is done to keep them safe.
"We're on the verge of bankruptcy" What a load of crap. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Historically NATO has served the US very well. It provided the US with a massive bulwark against possible Soviet aggression and added to the worldwide system of alliances and defence agreements the US put together during the Cold War. At its height this alliance system consisted of over 150 agreements and forced the USSR to spend up to 20% of its GNP on defence in order to compete, compared to only 6% of GNP by the USA, a fact that eventually pushed the USSR to the point of economic collapse.
So far as the agreements with Canada were concerned, Canada was a member of both NATO and NORAD, alliances that allowed the US to fly over Canadian territory and provided an early warning system against possible Soviet attack. Canada may not have spent a great deal of money on defence, but it provided the US with an excellent early warning system and gave the USSR one more frontier to worry about.
Canada has been an excellent ally to the US even following it into conflicts that had little or nothing to do with Canada's national interest, Afghanistan being a prime example. Sometimes actual military spending is not nearly as important as geographical access and political support.
We just might! So much we can do. Focus less on the defense of the EU and look to our borders. Sweet!
That would really suck to pull influence peddlers and meddlers (the mouthpieces who get good soldiers killed - or worse yet, dependent on Veteran Administrations) out of European policy shaking....
Time to pull out. If the EU nations do not think the Russians are a big threat, and as their defense budgets reflect, then maybe we can set up a small logistics tent somewhere in the UK and call it a day.
If they're such a big threat, why is Trump (or his really smart people) cozying up to Putin?
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That's what I'm saying!
Leave the EU to defend the EU. Combined they have a greater armed force than the Russians. They'll be fine.
Although the Russian people have far bigger balls than those of the EU.
None of them have any money left. Too many war games is one of the latest causes. Falling for the Cold War hoax took up the rest.
Problem for the EU going it alone ... er ... united in some way or another is: Who's the new boss?
Big balls don't seem to matter. Except for its nuclear capability the Russian military is pretty much a paper tiger. Its equipment is outmoded; its troops poorly trained; and it is being run on a shoestring. If even the Ukrainians can stand up to the Russians it really doesn't say much for their military potential.