NATO & the Trump Factor

Ocean Breeze

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Who cares?

Remove the hyphen for your link.
A LOT of folks care world wide. as they watch this spectacle EGOMANIAC of a man ABUSE POWER Trump's verbal cruelty is appalling. His lack of diplomacy and tact is astounding and shameful
 

Bar Sinister

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The Chinese have built and fortified artificial islands on reefs, atolls that ring the South China Sea. It looks more like naked Chinese agression, to me.


I am aware of the situation. It is called bullying. Historically it has worked well for large countries with smaller nations. However, I doubt that China is ready to go to war over the South China Sea.
 

Twin_Moose

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Trudeau insists Canada spending enough on defence, as Trump declares victory at NATO

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Canada hasn't committed to spending new money on defence, despite U.S. President Donald Trump's comments that he convinced NATO allies to dramatically hike spending.
Instead, Trudeau said at the wrap of the summit in Brussels that Canada has reaffirmed its commitment to work toward contributing two per cent of its gross domestic product to military spending — the military alliance's benchmark —and reverse any cuts.

Trudeau sidesteps NATO spending questions by media

So which is it committed to spending 2% as agreed to or stay the course and short spending?
 

Curious Cdn

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Trudeau insists Canada spending enough on defence, as Trump declares victory at NATO



Trudeau sidesteps NATO spending questions by media

So which is it committed to spending 2% as agreed to or stay the course and short spending?

Nobody committed to anything new beyond the previous "Wales" formula. Trump out-and-out lied.

Cansda, as always in the era beginning with Pierre Trudeau Senior is the big underperforming laggart. Germany, given the sensitivity with which they view militarism in general due to their terrible history, is undestandably reluctant to "build up" again. We in Canada have no such excuse, though and we continue the free ride within our alliances.

Grown-up countries defend themselves. Colonies have other grown-up countries do it for them. We are still stuck in our colonial phase.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/the-big-winner-of-the-nato-summit-putin/ar-AAzZqQt?li=AAggFp5
 
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Twin_Moose

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29 nations reaffirmed the goal of 2% in a shorter time frame at this meeting so why is Trudeau being disingenuous toward the agreements hours later, either he lied to NATO in the meeting or to Canadians in his press conference. Which is it?
 

Walter

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29 nations reaffirmed the goal of 2% in a shorter time frame at this meeting so why is Trudeau being disingenuous toward the agreements hours later, either he lied to NATO in the meeting or to Canadians in his press conference. Which is it?
He’s a Liberal and his grandfather is highly disappointed.
 

Hoid

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I wonder if Justin Trudeau as Prime Minister can simply decree increased military spending?
 

EagleSmack

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29 nations reaffirmed the goal of 2% in a shorter time frame at this meeting so why is Trudeau being disingenuous toward the agreements hours later, either he lied to NATO in the meeting or to Canadians in his press conference. Which is it?

He's pretty comfortable with lying.
 

Twin_Moose

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I wonder if Justin Trudeau as Prime Minister can simply decree increased military spending?

Yep he can he has a majority Gov. and his trade and defence pit bulls were with him that like everything that leaks out of him to help push the issue through
 

Curious Cdn

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Just conscript all pensioners and count their income as military spending. 4% GDP right there :)

I read that one, earlier.

Well, I'm in my early sixties, no longer on the Permanent Reserve List and happy to be doing something interesting during my retirement years, so I'm in!

(no obstacle courses, please)