N.Y. cop not indicted in choke hold death

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Porn for the social conservatives. I imagine that video will give a stiffy to a few folks

Well I'm pro-Police.. seriously.. but lately the cops are really out of control..

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lh5FsLw4eo



Off the wall and inappropriate comments as well as jerky moments still don’t grant the cops extra authority… PERIOD!
 

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Well I'm pro-Police.. seriously.. but lately the cops are really out of control..

www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lh5FsLw4eo



Off the wall and inappropriate comments as well as jerky moments still don’t grant the cops extra authority… PERIOD!

I'm not pro police or anti-police. I am pro-good police and anti-bad police. Killing somebody because they're selling illegal cigarettes kind of falls into the bad police category. I understand captain feels that this guy should be held responsible for being killed. I think most people feel that being arrested and charged would've been sufficient. Again, Capt. may believe that this police officer only had the one alternative. Capt. would be wrong as usual
 

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I'm not pro police or anti-police. I am pro-good police and anti-bad police.

You are anti-personal responsibility... No one should have to answer for their actions according to you

Killing somebody because they're selling illegal cigarettes kind of falls into the bad police category.

Yes, that is exactly what the police talked about in the squad room before hitting the streets... They all vowed to find someone breaking a bylaw and then kill them .

I understand captain feels that this guy should be held responsible for being killed.

Another astute, yet wildly incorrect observation.

Mind you, not surprising from you considering that you feel that there should be no laws or police

I think most people feel that being arrested and charged would've been sufficient.


You were not in the squad room to hear of the plan to execute this man... Arrest was never in the plan, it was a purposeful execution
 

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hahaha... That is hilarious.

You get a greenie for the Friday chuckles


For once I fully agree with you Cap't. I have to admit you do have a ridiculous opponent. As soon as a guy breaks the law (cops included) he has to bear some portion of the responsibility, but it still doesn't mitigate the responsibility of the other party.

Captain....Looks like you'll be at it all day with this dancing fool.....have fun :lol:


I'd amend that to "dancing idiot":)

"I'm not pro police or anti-police. I am pro-good police and anti-bad police."


Says the guy who defended the cop who kicked a disabled guy in the face when he was down on ground and complying with the cops request. What a f**king hypocrite!:)
 

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For once I fully agree with you Cap't. I have to admit you do have a ridiculous opponent. As soon as a guy breaks the law (cops included) he has to bear some portion of the responsibility, but it still doesn't mitigate the responsibility of the other party.

Don't be silly. He bears the responsibility of being arrested, not killed.

Says the guy who defended the cop who kicked a disabled guy in the face when he was down on ground and complying with the cops request. What a f**king hypocrite!:)

Don't be silly. I defended due process. Unlike you and Captain, I believe everybody is entitled to it. In fact I'm quite proud to stand up for due process. Are you proud to oppose it?
 

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For once I fully agree with you Cap't. I have to admit you do have a ridiculous opponent. As soon as a guy breaks the law (cops included) he has to bear some portion of the responsibility, but it still doesn't mitigate the responsibility of the other party.

He is responsible for his getting arrested. But if he offers no resistance, he is not responsible for excessive force applied by the police officer after that point. Also, it is expected that the police force would follow all proper procedures during and after the arrest. This would include not applying moves banned by their own force and offering CPR when appropriate instead of standing around.
 

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For once I fully agree with you Cap't. I have to admit you do have a ridiculous opponent. As soon as a guy breaks the law (cops included) he has to bear some portion of the responsibility, but it still doesn't mitigate the responsibility of the other party.


I'd say we're on the same page.

Contrary to some folks that believe the cop is not to be held responsible, I believe otherwise... My original point was that responsibility for this tragedy falls on many shoulders including Garner.

Lots of people are equating his death for responsibility and/or punishment. I think that form of logic is a mistake.

It's interesting, I asked Canuck about the situation involving the NL teen that stole an ambulance and how he identifies with the kid as a victim.

So far, no response, much like there is no response regarding how wearing a short skirt or walking down a dark street is not illegal.

Interesting to say the least
 

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He is responsible for his getting arrested. But if he offers no resistance, he is not responsible for excessive force applied by the police officer after that point. Also, it is expected that the police force would follow all proper procedures during and after the arrest. This would include not applying moves banned by their own force and offering CPR when appropriate instead of standing around.


Right on!
 

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I'd say we're on the same page.

Contrary to some folks that believe the cop is not to be held responsible, I believe otherwise... My original point was that responsibility for this tragedy falls on many shoulders including Garner.

Lots of people are equating his death for responsibility and/or punishment. I think that form of logic is a mistake.

It's interesting, I asked Canuck about the situation involving the NL teen that stole an ambulance and how he identifies with the kid as a victim.

So far, no response, much like there is no response regarding how wearing a short skirt or walking down a dark street is not illegal.

Interesting to say the least

There was a response. You even gave me a green for it. Is your memory that bad?