Muslims face negative perception in Canada, study suggests

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I'm not talking about loss of rights. I'm talking about equality.

There will always be inequality - That is a fact. Now it comes down to how harmful is that inequality.

A topic for a thread - put together some subject matter - examples - Differing cultures and your point of view - if necessary
 

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That's a cop out. While I have no doubt that inequality exists and there may always be inequality, that does not mean we have to legislate it.

No cop out - NFLD & Labrador got rid of separate schools - Eventually they will see it in other Provinces as an inequality. Immigration will take care of that problem.

But to get back to the main point brought up by Macho - We cannot comment until our own house is in order - I strongly disagree with that principle. Do you agree or not?
 

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There will always be inequality - That is a fact. Now it comes down to how harmful is that inequality.

A topic for a thread - put together some subject matter - examples - Differing cultures and your point of view - if necessary

I don't think it should be any other way, "Early bird gets the worm".
 

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You don't even have to 'be' a Muslim to behave like a 'radical'. Just a crappy mentor that leaves a stink on your soul. Marc Lepine for example.

Might have been a case of muslim-see, non-muslim-do.

Not that it changes your point or anything, but just for the sake of accuracy, Marc Lepine actually was Muslim. :)
 

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Ya, you keep saying that. But your version of equality, IS a matter of convenience. As has been proven many times, with your own words.

Laughing at yourself is a good thing. You aren't laughing alone.


Attacking me instead of my ideas clearly shows my ideas frighten you. Why does equality among citizens scare you so much?
 
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Maybe because all citizens aren't equal?

Ya hit the nail square on the head JLM... The fact is, we are not all equal in one form or another and there is no amount of legislation or pie-in-the-sky, warm, cuddly feelings that will ever change that.

The only 'thing' that society can possibly do in the name of equality is to ensure that everyone has an equal opportunity to live their life as they, themselves, see fit.
 

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Ya hit the nail square on the head JLM... The fact is, we are not all equal in one form or another and there is no amount of legislation or pie-in-the-sky, warm, cuddly feelings that will ever change that.

The only 'thing' that society can possibly do in the name of equality is to ensure that everyone has an equal opportunity to live their life as they, themselves, see fit.

And live with the results without whining! :lol:
 

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The only 'thing' that society can possibly do in the name of equality is to ensure that everyone has an equal opportunity to live their life as they, themselves, see fit.

I agree 100% but that is not what is currently happening in Canada. It is what I would like to have happen. Apparently, it is not what CB wants though as he seems to think (for some strange reason) that it is racist. Could it be that CB secretly accepts that he gets more than his fair share and he dislikes people like me upsetting his apple cart.

The reality though, is that race has little to do with it. I could interchange the words english, aboriginal, muslim, red head or left handed person and my position wouldn't change in the slightest. CB can't say the same thing.
 

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Attacking me instead of my ideas clearly shows my ideas frighten you.
He says, after changing the quote of my post to say something that wasn't said, in order to attack me...

Frighten? No. I just like pointing out your lies, misrepresentations, inconsistencies and hypocrisy.

Your reactions and silly claims, make me laugh....

For which CB says....

Which is a piss poor attempt to imply that dumpthemonarchy's statement was not true. However, CB then says in regards to dumpthemonarchy's claim that it can't be done and shouldn't be done...

Clearly, CB wants he and his buddies to be a third level of government (something I have been supporting for years but have been called a racist for). Why is it that I am considered a racist for suggesting and supporting the same thing as CB? Just another example of CB's logical inconsistencies? Perhaps this is CB's way of subtly going public about his racist views? Maybe it's nothing more than CB finally extricating his head from his rectum and realizing that I was right all along and that this is the best approach (especially given that he and his buddies have no intention of giving up their Canadian citizenship to actually start up their own nation.

I agree 100% but that is not what is currently happening in Canada. It is what I would like to have happen. Apparently, it is not what CB wants though as he seems to think (for some strange reason) that it is racist. Could it be that CB secretly accepts that he gets more than his fair share and he dislikes people like me upsetting his apple cart.

The reality though, is that race has little to do with it. I could interchange the words english, aboriginal, muslim, red head or left handed person and my position wouldn't change in the slightest. CB can't say the same thing.

Interesting...very interesting indeed.
Very interesting indeed.

It would be nice if you were at least consistent in your principles. Or at least not pretend you're more duplicitous than the bulk of the membership, lol.

Why does equality among citizens scare you so much?
It doesn't.

Why does having to try and out smart a Native person, make your principles so flexible, warm jello like even?

I agree 100% but that is not what is currently happening in Canada. It is what I would like to have happen. Apparently, it is not what CB wants though as he seems to think (for some strange reason) that it is racist.
That's not what makes you a racist. A term I was loathed to apply. But you earned it on your own.

Could it be that CB secretly accepts that he gets more than his fair share and he dislikes people like me upsetting his apple cart.
What do I get, that no other Canadian has access to?

I won't hold my breath waiting for an answer. It's one of the few things you're actually consistent at. Not answering direct question, to support your erroneous accusations/claims.

The reality though, is that race has little to do with it. I could interchange the words english, aboriginal, muslim, red head or left handed person and my position wouldn't change in the slightest.
Which is the same reason Treaties, are not race based.

CB can't say the same thing.
So you keep saying, without any sort of proof.

That makes me laugh. Especially since you cry when people don't support their claims, in discussions with you.
 
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Why does having to try and out smart a Native person, make your principles so flexible, warm jello like even?

I may possibly have a little insight into this, Bear. From his many posts I've come to the conclusion (may be wrong) that Cannuck lives and breathes Unions) and lately the continued strength of Unions has come into question, so maybe the continuation of his whole being has come into question for him. I would be scared too if I was tethered to something as tenuous. :smile:
 

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Comment all you want. I find hypocrisy amusing.

Then define equality? Will this be easy - No - Have fun.
Inequality runs a wide gamut - From a person’s opinion based upon the others height, weight, looks, grammar. And a host of other life encounters I can come up with. That is why I suggested a specific Thread. It is a complex issue.