Yeah, I didn't click on the links. I guess I was just sort of blurting out the first thing that popped into my head, lol.
Muslim women must show face to become Canadian citizens
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Yeah, I didn't click on the links. I guess I was just sort of blurting out the first thing that popped into my head, lol.
Perhaps because Canada is losing population numbers and bribing young people to bear children doesn't work. We are moving rapiidly towards not enough people paying taxes in comparision to those drawing pensions, health care, unemployment insurance etc.
We need to accommodate to some degree, Wouldn't it be better to set a period of time, during which time they as well as their new country satisfy certain criteria?? If either side is not happy, the immigrants move back home ....no gain, no foul.
It's kind'a surprising the amount of attention this group
receives, as what %'age of the Canadian population
can they actually make up? 2%? ...Maybe 3%?
receives, as what %'age of the Canadian population
can they actually make up? 2%? ...Maybe 3%?
Sorry, it's irrelevant what you think. To the people wearing the Niqab and the Burka, they believe it is a requirement for their religion. It's not up to you or me to say if it is a requirement or not. They believe it is, that makes it a wholly religious decision.
No it doesn't.
They would have to prove it's a part of the tenets of their religion. Therefore it would have to be specified in the Quran. With something as innocuous as the abaya, they would only need a verse that could be reasonably interpreted to mean women must be bagged up like a coffee truck whistle dog.
One does not exist.
Anyone that believes it is supported in the Quran, or part of the Islamic religion, is a moron.
History shows, the cultural tradition existed approx. 200 years before Islam.
Anyways, maybe you should read what Muslims say about it. My buddy Mohammad sent me this link.
Quran-Islam.org - True Islam
Enjoy.
It's a no brainer really, if they want to be treated like Canadians they have to act like Canadians!
Wearing a niquab or burka or whatever is not an issue of religious freedom. In my opinion though, it does fall under Charter protection as freedom of expression.
My personal view is that it is a cultural thing that does subjugate women, it's an issue of control, it's about making women within that cultural group a secondary class. That is my personal opinion of it as a woman. But what trips me up and gives me pause is when I hear about the idea of legislation that prevents them from wearing these items is that it essentially amounts to the same thing. Lack of control and lack of choice in how they can express themselves. It's a double edged sword that way.
Having said all of that, however, there are times when reasonable accomodations have to be made in society. This would be one of those, in my opinion.
I mean, just try smiling broadly (a definitively self-expressive act) in your passport photo. See how far that gets you.
My personal view is that it is a cultural thing that does subjugate women, it's an issue of control, it's about making women within that cultural group a secondary class. That is my personal opinion of it as a woman. But what trips me up and gives me pause is when I hear about the idea of legislation that prevents them from wearing these items is that it essentially amounts to the same thing. Lack of control and lack of choice in how they can express themselves. It's a double edged sword that way.
Having said all of that, however, there are times when reasonable accomodations have to be made in society. This would be one of those, in my opinion.
I mean, just try smiling broadly (a definitively self-expressive act) in your passport photo. See how far that gets you.
Burqa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Not sure why you're trying to argue things you don't even have the basic knowledge of. I guess that's what a troll does.
Not sure why you're posting information that supports what Bear said, while calling him a troll
I guess that's what an idiot does.
How do you argue with a fool like that....Any link you post that disagrees with what he says, is not a valid link and I'm willing to bet he will say that you are reading the link he posted wrong.....same as "abfet" did...(nah nah nah I can't hear you)
Which is why we think he's a reincarnation of the same troll who managed to get a new IP.
Horse pucky! it's no more religious in nature than the Turban is for the Sikhs --- IT'S TRADITON ONLY!
Ummm....
You took the words right out of my mouth.
Obviously an invalid link, it's a site filled with commentary on Muslims, written by Muslims. :roll:
Pretty much.
cubbyabtfetgoreobsessed will eventually have one of his patented meltdowns and out himself entirely.
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I've just consulted the all-knowing magic eight ball.
"All signs point to yes."
That thing's never wrong.
Some people would believe that Witches, Sorcerers should be executed. Whoops - That is in Saudi. As in last week.
Saudi Kingdom Executes “Sorceress” « JONATHAN TURLEY
The Saudi Kingdom has now executed yet another “sorcerer” — part of a continuing trend in Muslim countries in arrested suspecting Genies and sorcerers in the name of Allah. In this case, the Saudis appear to have arrested a garden-variety carnival healer — a woman saying that she could heal illness for $800 per session.
The religious police arrested the woman in a sting operation. That’s right, the Saudis have anti-sorcery sting operations run by their morals police. She was beheaded pursuant to Sharia law.
What a person thinks should be included in a religion is a real stretch.
It is not required, it is a cultural habit acquired from other cultures who were NOT Muslims. That is until they converted of course.
The Turban is part of the Sikh Religion. Some wear it, others do not.
Turban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dastar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A Dastar (Punjabi: ਦਸਤਾਰ, dastār, from Persian: دستار) or Pagṛi (Punjabi: ਪਗੜੀ) is a mandatory headgear for Sikhs. Dastar is very clearly associated with Sikhism and is an important part of the Sikh culture. Wearing a Sikh turban is mandatory for all Amritdhari (baptized) Sikhs (also known as Khalsa).
Among the Sikhs, the turban is an article of faith that represents honour, self-respect, courage, spirituality, and piety. The Khalsa Sikhs, who adorn the Five Ks, wear the turban partly to cover their long, uncut hair (kesh). The turban is mostly identified with the Sikh males, although some Sikh women also wear turban. The Khalsa Sikhs regard the turban as an important part of the unique Sikh identity. They are easily recognizable by their distinctive turbans.
I think it's hilarious this is even being argued. It's not debatable.
Quote from my link I posted above
Many Muslims believe that the Islamic holy book, the Qur'an, and the collected traditions of the life of Muhammed, or hadith, require both men and women to dress and behave modestly in public. However, this requirement, called hijab, has been interpreted in many different ways by Islamic scholars (ulema) and Muslim communities (see Women and Islam).
So if a Muslim decides to wear the burqa, it's a wholly religious decision, like I said.
Quote from my link I posted above
Many Muslims believe that the Islamic holy book, the Qur'an, and the collected traditions of the life of Muhammed, or hadith, require both men and women to dress and behave modestly in public. However, this requirement, called hijab, has been interpreted in many different ways by Islamic scholars (ulema) and Muslim communities (see Women and Islam).
So if a Muslim decides to wear the burqa, it's a wholly religious decision, like I said.
Ummm...
Your OP.
Your opinions...
Not with you anyways. You haven't a clue about anything you utter.
This isn't the first time wiki has mislead you.
t won't be the last.
Thankfully in Canada, we have laws, and the Charter. That protect us from people like you.