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How long did the Russian Afghan war go, again.?
You spelled 'CIA' wrong, . . . again.
https://www.counterpunch.org/1998/01/15/how-jimmy-carter-and-i-started-the-mujahideen/
How Jimmy Carter and I Started the Mujahideen

Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs [“From the Shadows”], that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period you were the national security adviser to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that correct?
Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahadeen began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was July 3, 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.
Q: Despite this risk, you were an advocate of this covert action. But perhaps you yourself desired this Soviet entry into war and looked to provoke it?
Brzezinski: It isn’t quite that. We didn’t push the Russians to intervene, but we knowingly increased the probability that they would.
Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn’t believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don’t regret anything today?
Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.
Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic [integrisme], having given arms and advice to future terrorists?
Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?
Q: Some stirred-up Moslems? But it has been said and repeated: Islamic fundamentalism represents a world menace today.
Brzezinski: Nonsense! It is said that the West had a global policy in regard to Islam. That is stupid. There isn’t a global Islam. Look at Islam in a rational manner and without demagoguery or emotion. It is the leading religion of the world with 1.5 billion followers. But what is there in common among Saudi Arabian fundamentalism, moderate Morocco, Pakistan militarism, Egyptian pro-Western or Central Asian secularism? Nothing more than what unites the Christian countries.
 

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So, the Russians didn't invade Afghanistan after all?

It was really the CIA and the Jews all dressed up in Red Army uniforms while riding in Russian tanks?

This Yanks are a lot more clever than I gave them credit for.
 

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The Russians are accepting that Russia has brought in very many immigration around Islam.

To the Russian border.
The Russians don't have a problem with Muslims owning as much oil as Russia does. They also see no need for all the drama and BS that goes along with the West trying to run a monopoly when it doesn't work very well to begin with.
 

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This Yanks are a lot more clever than I gave them credit for.
You are the last one to get the memo, I wonder why that is?

Israel is helping support the Kurds (and Assad and Russia and Iran) the US bailed on, against a NATO backed Turkey. That gives them points in the area.

Having Iran call for the UN to be moved to 'a more moderate country' was Iran mentioning Israel in a covert way. More good-will being passed around between 'former enemies thanks to the thugs from across the big water'
 

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So, the Russians didn't invade Afghanistan after all?
The extended oil contracts with Venezuela now includes military overlaps due to threats to their elected Government from 'outsiders'. That would be the ones on the Dutch owned Islands just offshore, maybe time for them to pull a Crimea and rejoin the closest mainland.
Did you at least get that game-changing memo??
 

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The extended oil contracts with Venezuela now includes military overlaps due to threats to their elected Government from 'outsiders'. That would be the ones on the Dutch owned Islands just offshore, maybe time for them to pull a Crimea and rejoin the closest mainland.
Did you at least get that game-changing memo??
I guess that means "no".

Boy that was a better phoney-up job than the moon landings, eh?
 

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The trail is fresher.


https://sputniknews.com/latam/20191...i-level-cooperation-for-10-years---deputy-pm/
CARACAS (Sputnik) – Russia and Venezuela will work out a long-term plan on bilateral cooperation before the next meeting of the intergovernmental commission, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Yury Borisov announced after talks with Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro in Caracas.

"We’ll try to draw up a strategic document for the next intergovernmental commission, which will determine trade, economic, scientific, technical and cultural relations between our countries for a long period, at least until 2030," Borisov told journalists.
He added that he discussed trade and the process of rebuilding the Venezuelan economy with Maduro on Saturday.
"My visit to Caracas was purely technical in nature," Borisov said, adding that from what he saw, the situation in Venezuela was stable.
The Venezuelan president stressed after Saturday talks with Borisov that the visit of the Russian deputy prime minister was very important in the wake of Maduro’s talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin, held in late September.
Maduro said that he thought it was a "good idea" to work out a cooperation plan for 10 years.
Earlier on Saturday, Borisov announced that Russia and Venezuela were taking their relationship to a new level in the context of US sanctions against Caracas.
Moscow has been supporting Venezuela’s president amid pressure from the United States and its allies, who have sided with Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido, who proclaimed himself the interim president in a bid to oust legitimate Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro from power. In January 2019, Guaido attempted to take power in Venezuela after Maduro’s re-election.


Russia can run on coal for a few 100 years and export oil and gas.
 

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This is a promise of God to Jesus Christ that He will make those who follow him (i.e. Christians) superior to those (Jews) who disbelieve in him till Doomsday or to the end of the world.

Quran 3: 55, which means:
(I will [also] make those [Christians], who follow you, superior to those [Jews] who unbelieve till the Day of Judgment.)

More explanation in the link:
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_55
quran-ayat.com/pret/3.htm#a3_55

There is another marvelous aya in the Quran 61: 14, which indicates the prevailing of Muslims in the future over all other religious sects (on condition that Muslims refrain from worshiping the tombs and graves of the religious leaders.
 

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Muslims are persecuted everywhere:

If we study the situation of Muslims and their countries, we will find them persecuted.
Muslims and Muslim countries are persecuted .. their countries are under attack everywhere ..
So all the present religious sects and regimens have transgressed on Muslims and Muslim countries ..

Muslim countries have been trespassed by Jews, by Christians, by Hindus, by Buddhists, by the Communists of China and Russia.

Which implies that Muslim and Muslim countries will prevail on all these religions and on all these transgressing religious sects and states.

The sole factor which will change the equation is that Muslims should refrain from worshiping the tombs of the righteous and they should abstain from glorifying the imams and patrons.

This is derived from many ayat of the Quran, like the aya mentioned in the previous post: Quran 61: 14, which means:
(O you who believe, be the helpers of [the religion of] God [: so as to help your prophet as did the Disciples help Jesus],

as did Jesus, Mary's son, say to the Disciples [: the Apostles]: "Who will be my helpers for [the religion of] God?"

Said the Disciples: "We will be the helpers [of the religion] of God."

And a party of the Children of Israel believed [in Jesus: becoming the Christians], and a party disbelieved [in Jesus: remaining as Jews.]

So We aided those who believed [: the Christians] against their enemies [: the Jews]
a, and they [the Christians] prevailed [over Jews; and as such will you, Muslims, prevail over all religions.])
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14 a i.e. We helped Christians against Jews, and they prevailed over Jews.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/61.htm#a61_14
quran-ayat.com/pret/61.htm#a61_14

Therefore, as the aya denotes: if Muslims help the cause of God and the religion of God: the exclusive devotion to God alone without patron or associate .. then God will help them and they will prevail over all others.
 

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Comment:
In my opinion: those who follow Jesus Christ in fact are the true Muslims who are true believers and they exclusively devote themselves to God alone without associate .. while Christians in general are erring and misguided because they adopt the Trinity and think that Jesus is the son of God or that Jesus is God Himself which is the top of the enthusiasm and idolatry.
 

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The USA will gain much success and prosperity when it will be with the Arab and Muslims not against them.

If the USA changes its policy in the Middle East (so that it is better bias not to the side of Tel Aviv to the disadvantage of the Arab and Muslims)... it will be successful and prosperous, both economically and politically.

What will the USA gain from inclining to the Wicked Zionists of Tel Aviv? nothing other than hatred of the peoples of the world, and much loss because of the burden of the support and aid to Tel Aviv.. while the USA is in much need of such contribution for the welfare of its own people.

Therefore, the wise men in America better reconsider their wrong policy against the Arab and Muslim countries, which is only the transgression and trespassing the rights of the peoples of the worlds.
 

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Will the American people be too late to save themselves?

So either the American people do something to save themselves from the Wicked Zionists of Tel Aviv.... or they will be too late when the Wicked Zionists in America and Tel Aviv will drown America and bring about its complete destruction.

1- Tel Aviv and its Wicked Zionists are a heavy burden on America economically and politically.

2- Better for the American to stop their support to the Wicked Zionists of Tel Aviv, and utilize their contribution to their own American people.

3- If they are fair and consider the rights of Palestine and the Arab and Muslim countries, they will gain the friendship of the peoples of the world, which will be better than the hatred and enmity to other peoples.

4- If they are just in dealing with the Palestinian and the Arab, God will give much blessing to the American people of goodwill.

5- This justice in dealing with the Palestinian and the Arab will certainly be better for the peace and security of the great American people.

http://quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english3.htm#A_Call_to_Christians_
quran-ayat.com/conflicts/english3.htm#A_Call_to_Christians_
 
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Tel Aviv will lead the USA to complete destruction

Tel Aviv is a heavy burden on the USA both economically and politically.. then after the Wicked Zionists will drown America in troubles and conflicts.. and America will suffer, then they will leave the USA be.. and go their way as if nothing happened.

Without Tel Aviv, all the countries in the Middle East (in fact in the entire world) will be at rest and peace, and the American people will prosper and get more progress, and will gain the friendship of the peoples of the world.
 

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Quran

Quran (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.Quran (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly.
Quran (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths is with pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway. (The next verse refers only to those who have a personal agreement with Muhammad as individuals - see Ibn Kathir vol 4, p 49)
Quran (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you the dissolution of your oaths..."
Quran (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who had to "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.
Quran (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts" (see also 5:89)
Quran (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which means 'cunning,' 'guile' and 'deceit'. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.​