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Creator doesn't necessarily mean god. Then, of course, one would have to figure out whose god, since there are a few thousand religions in the world.
I know was created by their parents. They even teach this in basic biology.
Could be the creator is actually a far more advanced being from another galaxy.
Nope. God(s), just a broad way of saying it.
 

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Creator doesn't necessarily mean god. Then, of course, one would have to figure out whose god, since there are a few thousand religions in the world.
I know was created by their parents. They even teach this in basic biology.
Could be the creator is actually a far more advanced being from another galaxy.
And the Declaration of Independence is not the Constitution. The Constitution is "the supreme Law of the Land," by its own terms.
 

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Most people blasphemed in this time and even denied God, why?

They see the God worshipers [Muslims in particular] in bad condition, but the ungodly and atheists in good condition... this is a great temptation and trial of people in this time especially (and in other times also).

So what bring the immediate God's punishment, might be:
1- The presence of God's messenger: if the messenger is present and people deny him face to face: he warns them before the coming of their stated punishment: if they respond to him, then OK; but if they do not respond and do not believe that God is One Almighty and Most Gracious, they will be terminated. God's messengers like Jesus Christ, Prophet Mohammed, and ... Al-Mehdi.
2- If people kill the messenger or expel ( or banish) him, they will be destroyed.
3- If an objective material miracle is worked by the messenger: like the staff of Moses, the she-camel of Salih, and the miracle of the Mehdi and people deny it and disbelieve it and may work to destroy that miracle ... their punishment will be immediate.
4- The transgression and wrongdoing: if people work clearly and frankly against God's commandment, and transgress on others deliberately in savage ways killing children and women and elderly without mercy, and their motives are against God and His revealed Quran and other books ... they then deserve the punishment of God, and none of people whatsoever can prevent God's dealing from reaching the transgressor and the wrongdoer.
5- If one supports the transgressor and the wrongdoer, he will have his share of the punishment.

I can prove these points from the Quran, the word of God.

And what prevent or postpone the immediate God's punishment, might be:
1- justice dealing of people towards others.
2- kindness of people to others.
3- asking forgiveness of God and repenting.
4- the presence of God's messenger among people.
5- the presence, among people, of believers in God as One without associate and in all the messengers including Moses, Jesus, Mohammed and Al- Mehdi without denying any of them.

I may prove these points from the Quran, the word of God.
 
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Most people blasphemed in this time and even denied God, why?

They see the God worshipers [Muslims in particular] in bad condition, but the ungodly and atheists in good condition... this is a great temptation and trial of people in this time especially (and in other times also).

So what bring the immediate God's punishment, might be:
1- The presence of God's messenger: if the messenger is present and people deny him face to face: he warns them before the coming of their stated punishment: if they respond to him, then OK; but if they do not respond and do not believe that God is One Almighty and Most Gracious, they will be terminated. God's messengers like Jesus Christ, Prophet Mohammed, and ... Al-Mehdi.
2- If people kill the messenger or expel ( or banish) him, they will be destroyed.
3- If an objective material miracle is worked by the messenger: like the staff of Moses, the she-camel of Salih, and the miracle of the Mehdi and people deny it and disbelieve it and may work to destroy that miracle ... their punishment will be immediate.
4- The transgression and wrongdoing: if people work clearly and frankly against God's commandment, and transgress on others deliberately in savage ways killing children and women and elderly without mercy, and their motives are against God and His revealed Quran and other books ... they then deserve the punishment of God, and none of people whatsoever can prevent God's dealing from reaching the transgressor and the wrongdoer.
5- If one supports the transgressor and the wrongdoer, he will have his share of the punishment.

I can prove these points from the Quran, the word of God.

And what prevent or postpone the immediate God's punishment, might be:
1- justice dealing of people towards others.
2- kindness of people to others.
3- asking forgiveness of God and repenting.
4- the presence of God's messenger among people.
5- the presence, among people, of believers in God as One without associate and in all the messengers including Moses, Jesus, Mohammed and Al- Mehdi without denying any of them.

I may prove these points from the Quran, the word of God.

Lying, as usual.

You prove nothing but your own denial of God and celebrate your ignorance.
 

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The illusion of some atheists and idolaters:
1- They are not immediately punished for their words of blasphemy.
2- They get more money and better welfare following their blasphemy and disbelief.

These points might have been demonstrated in the Quran in many ayat.
 

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In addition to my post #179

If the Zionists of Tel Aviv deal kindly with the Palestinians and desist and refrain from their savage transgression on Gaza, and turn the page to kindness and good relations... things may change and better outcome will be for all and for the Israelite themselves.

But if you insist on your savage transgression on Gaza and its people, then things will turn opposite to that, and you will have a miserable outcome in the end... because people will not forget their dealing and when opportunity comes and circumstances change, you will regret so much and you will be destroyed utterly.

So this is a last chance for you, Zionists of Tel Aviv, to deal humanly and kindly with the Palestinians and the people of Gaza in particular.
And so instead of bombing them give them peace,
and instead of killing them give them support,
and instead of besieging them give them freedom to eat and drink and have medical care and other essentials as you give to yourselves...
then Muslims in general and the Palestinians in particular will not forget this from you.

As in the Quran 17: 7, addressing the Children of Israel, which means:
(If you do good [to people], you will in fact do good for yourselves g; and if you do evil [to people], [your evil] will be for yourselves [in like manner.] h)
...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................

g Because, by doing good work, you will insert love in their hearts, and they will be in harmony with you and so will not drive you out of their land.
h Because “anyone seeds [the bitter] colocynth, will only get [the bitterness of] the colocynth.” [This is a parable in Arabic.]

A Warning to Jews of Perishing, If they do not believe in the Quran
 

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In addition to my post #179

If the Zionists of Tel Aviv deal kindly with the Palestinians and desist and refrain from their savage transgression on Gaza, and turn the page to kindness and good relations... things may change and better outcome will be for all and for the Israelite themselves.

But if you insist on your savage transgression on Gaza and its people, then things will turn opposite to that, and you will have a miserable outcome in the end... because people will not forget their dealing and when opportunity comes and circumstances change, you will regret so much and you will be destroyed utterly.

So this is a last chance for you, Zionists of Tel Aviv, to deal humanly and kindly with the Palestinians and the people of Gaza in particular.
And so instead of bombing them give them peace,
and instead of killing them give them support,
and instead of besieging them give them freedom to eat and drink and have medical care and other essentials as you give to yourselves...
then Muslims in general and the Palestinians in particular will not forget this from you.

As in the Quran 17: 7, addressing the Children of Israel, which means:
(If you do good [to people], you will in fact do good for yourselves g; and if you do evil [to people], [your evil] will be for yourselves [in like manner.] h)
...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................

g Because, by doing good work, you will insert love in their hearts, and they will be in harmony with you and so will not drive you out of their land.
h Because “anyone seeds [the bitter] colocynth, will only get [the bitterness of] the colocynth.” [This is a parable in Arabic.]

A Warning to Jews of Perishing, If they do not believe in the Quran

Again, more lies.

When will you stop lying, Torch?
 

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God Almighty is watching you, USA and its President Biden!

You, Biden, are an elderly man on the brink of your afterlife, how could you give permission and support to Tel Aviv to transgress on Gaza in this savage way? And you tell them: be kind to the civilians! How could this be done? This on the pretext that there are terrorists among the Palestinians and that you should support the Zionists, but don't you know that God does not like the wrongdoing and transgression?

So immediately with your contumacy and tyranny you brought your fleets to support the Zionists of Tel Aviv against the Palestinians... and before your eyes these Zionists bombard the building and demolish everything in Gaza with your weapon... so you are the true criminal before God the Just Judge to whom you all will go.

Know then that God is the One Who gave you power and science and influence and wealth, and He can take all that from you.

And you have your mighty fleets, but know then that God is Mightier than you, and He can drown you and your troops and your fleets as He drowned Pharaoh and his troops in the sea.

Quran 36: 41-44, which mean:
(41. And a sign for them [indicating Our might] is that We bore their ancestors in the laden ark [of Noah.]
42. Afterwards, We made for them [ships] similar to the [ship of Noah], on which they board [in their voyages.]
43. And if We will, We may drown them, and [because their mouths will then be full of water] they cannot cry [for help], nor may they be saved [of the drowning.]
44. But only by mercy from Us [towards them] and for a [temporary] enjoyment [in the life of the World] till the [appointed] time [of their death.])

Therefore, now if you, Mr. President Biden, convert to the religion of the Islam you will succeed in this life of the World and in the Hereafter, and if you disbelieve, you will lose your Hereafter.
 
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God Almighty is watching you, USA and its President Biden!

You, Biden, are an elderly man on the brink of your afterlife, how could you give permission and support to Tel Aviv to transgress on Gaza in this savage way? And you tell them: be kind to the civilians! How could this be done? This on the pretext that there are terrorists among the Palestinians and that you should support the Zionists, but don't you know that God does not like the wrongdoing and transgression?

So immediately with your contumacy and tyranny you brought your fleets to support the Zionists of Tel Aviv against the Palestinians... and before your eyes these Zionists bombard the building and demolish everything in Gaza with your weapon... so you are the true criminal before God the Just Judge to whom you all will go.

Know then that God is the One Who gave you power and science and influence and wealth, and He can take all that from you.

And you have your mighty fleets, but know then that God is Mightier than you, and He can drown you and your troops and your fleets as He drowned Pharaoh and his troops in the sea.

Quran 36: 41-44, which mean:
(41. And a sign for them [indicating Our might] is that We bore their ancestors in the laden ark [of Noah.]
42. Afterwards, We made for them [ships] similar to the [ship of Noah], on which they board [in their voyages.]
43. And if We will, We may drown them, and [because their mouths will then be full of water] they cannot cry [for help], nor may they be saved [of the drowning.]
44. But only by mercy from Us [towards them] and for a [temporary] enjoyment [in the life of the World] till the [appointed] time [of their death.])

Therefore, now if you, Mr. President Biden, convert to the religion of the Islam you will succeed in this life of the World and in the Hereafter, and if you disbelieve, you will lose your Hereafter.


Oh shut up Torch.
 

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God Almighty is watching you, USA and its President Biden!

You, Biden, are an elderly man on the brink of your afterlife, how could you give permission and support to Tel Aviv to transgress on Gaza in this savage way? And you tell them: be kind to the civilians! How could this be done? This on the pretext that there are terrorists among the Palestinians and that you should support the Zionists, but don't you know that God does not like the wrongdoing and transgression?

So immediately with your contumacy and tyranny you brought your fleets to support the Zionists of Tel Aviv against the Palestinians... and before your eyes these Zionists bombard the building and demolish everything in Gaza with your weapon... so you are the true criminal before God the Just Judge to whom you all will go.

Know then that God is the One Who gave you power and science and influence and wealth, and He can take all that from you.

And you have your mighty fleets, but know then that God is Mightier than you, and He can drown you and your troops and your fleets as He drowned Pharaoh and his troops in the sea.

Quran 36: 41-44, which mean:
(41. And a sign for them [indicating Our might] is that We bore their ancestors in the laden ark [of Noah.]
42. Afterwards, We made for them [ships] similar to the [ship of Noah], on which they board [in their voyages.]
43. And if We will, We may drown them, and [because their mouths will then be full of water] they cannot cry [for help], nor may they be saved [of the drowning.]
44. But only by mercy from Us [towards them] and for a [temporary] enjoyment [in the life of the World] till the [appointed] time [of their death.])

Therefore, now if you, Mr. President Biden, convert to the religion of the Islam you will succeed in this life of the World and in the Hereafter, and if you disbelieve, you will lose your Hereafter.
Y'know, your bunch has been issuing these threats for over 1300 years. So far, not one single person has been struck down by Allah. Good people have died miserably, and evil people have thriven and lived long.

I'm not even gonna argue whether Al exists. I'll simply state the following conclusion. . . If Al does exist, he is utterly powerless to effect his will in the world. So he might as well not exist.

Al's Snackbar!
 
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If the Zionists of Tel Aviv deal kindly with the Palestinians and desist and refrain from their savage transgression on Gaza, and turn the page to kindness and good relations... things may change and better outcome will be for all and for the Israelite themselves.

But if you insist on your savage transgression on Gaza and its people, then things will turn opposite to that, and you will have a miserable outcome in the end... because people will not forget their dealing and when opportunity comes and circumstances change, you will regret so much and you will be destroyed utterly.
Mark this date on your calendar, Torchy.

I agree with what you have said above.

It's not the whole story, but it's true. The other part is the Palestinians have to desist from murdering Israelites.
 

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A US Navy warship has intercepted missiles and drones launched from Yemen by the Iran-aligned Houthi movement, US officials say.

A Pentagon spokesman said the missiles had been launched "potentially towards targets in Israel".

The USS Carney, a guided-missile destroyer, was operating in the northern Red Sea on Thursday.

The Pentagon also said US troops in Iraq and Syria had been attacked several times in recent days.
 

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A US Navy warship has intercepted missiles and drones launched from Yemen by the Iran-aligned Houthi movement, US officials say.

A Pentagon spokesman said the missiles had been launched "potentially towards targets in Israel".

The USS Carney, a guided-missile destroyer, was operating in the northern Red Sea on Thursday.

The Pentagon also said US troops in Iraq and Syria had been attacked several times in recent days.
WW3... why wait for historians to name it?

I just watched a Lukid Knesset member screaming on RT news that after leveling Gaza, Israel is going to back Ukraine "to make Russians pay the price".

Im sure they think the same about Iran.

3;30 mark in the video.

 

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In addition to my post #179

If the Zionists of Tel Aviv deal kindly with the Palestinians and desist and refrain from their savage transgression on Gaza, and turn the page to kindness and good relations... things may change and better outcome will be for all and for the Israelite themselves.

But if you insist on your savage transgression on Gaza and its people, then things will turn opposite to that, and you will have a miserable outcome in the end... because people will not forget their dealing and when opportunity comes and circumstances change, you will regret so much and you will be destroyed utterly.

So this is a last chance for you, Zionists of Tel Aviv, to deal humanly and kindly with the Palestinians and the people of Gaza in particular.
And so instead of bombing them give them peace,
and instead of killing them give them support,
and instead of besieging them give them freedom to eat and drink and have medical care and other essentials as you give to yourselves...
then Muslims in general and the Palestinians in particular will not forget this from you.

As in the Quran 17: 7, addressing the Children of Israel, which means:
(If you do good [to people], you will in fact do good for yourselves g; and if you do evil [to people], [your evil] will be for yourselves [in like manner.] h)
...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................

g Because, by doing good work, you will insert love in their hearts, and they will be in harmony with you and so will not drive you out of their land.
h Because “anyone seeds [the bitter] colocynth, will only get [the bitterness of] the colocynth.” [This is a parable in Arabic.]

A Warning to Jews of Perishing, If they do not believe in the Quran
Your first statement is in error. Hamas WILL NEVER concede to Israel which is why they need to be destroyed. This "war" isn't about land; it isn't about religion; it's about destroying Israel & all Jews period. There isn't any other reason & the insanity of this whole thing is that the Palestinians are being "used" by their leadership & brainwashed from very young ages to hate the Jews.

Israel is helpful to Palestinians as W5 (I think) interviewed Palestinians a few years ago in a documentary & most had nothing bad to say about Israel - in fact, most of the people interviewed appreciated what Israel does for them DESPITE their horrible leadership and not because of them. Now either they were lying OR the media is lying about what is happening in Gaza. Either way, we're not getting even close to the truth simply by denying what is happening isn't. Both sides lose no matter what so in order to cut the head off of the snake, they need to be destroyed so EVERYONE can live in peace, be free to do as they wish. Unfortunately, that will never happen under Hamas' rule because their hate is so visceral. I'm willing to be NO ONE in the West understands how visceral the hatred is because we've never experienced it.
 

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Mark this date on your calendar, Torchy.

I agree with what you have said above.

It's not the whole story, but it's true. The other part is the Palestinians have to desist from murdering Israelites.

Until Torch starts to include that into things (ya, I know, he won't) he's just being his typical, racist self and a liar.
 
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