Mosque near Ground Zero

Machjo

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And even assuming what you say is entirely true, the OP was clearly offended at the building of any mosque of any kind near ground Zero, thus implying that Muslims who'd lost loved ones on 911 are not even worthy of consideration.
 

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What about a multi-denominational place of worship that also serves fried chicken?
Would that make everyone happy? I would go to that if it was close to my home.

Is chicken on the Happy list for Moslems, Jews, & Christians? Could there also be
a salad bar? Maybe make it Buffet style too? That would even make it better.

No problem with that here.
 

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What about a multi-denominational place of worship that also serves fried chicken?
Would that make everyone happy? I would go to that if it was close to my home.

Is chicken on the Happy list for Moslems, Jews, & Christians? Could there also be
a salad bar? Maybe make it Buffet style too? That would even make it better.

lol I think you may have just found the key to world peace!
 

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Another straw man. I never said that.


You replied to me initially, and I was talking about Muslims. What did you think you were responding to?

Not all Muslims can be painted with the same brush. That was what I was saying. Then you said all Muslims have militaristic jihad in common.

So just what the hell were you saying if not that all Muslims follow militaristic jihad?

Straw man, no not really :roll:
 

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I've already posted a video above about some family members of the victims of 911 who see nothing wrong with this mosque. So why should I care about a bunch of bigots who never lost anyone there.
 

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To me, expressing offense at building a mosque there is the equivalent of saying F**k you! to these people:


Talk about showing compassion for those who dies a terrible death on that day. But what more can we expect, eh?
 

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I'd like to know, JTF, are you in fact saying F**k you! to them or am I misunderstanding your somehow?

Clearly you take offense at granting the family and friends of these people the freedom to honour them as they wish. Now that's offensive.
 

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I'm curious as to how far away a Mosque must be to not be "offensive"... 5 blocks, 10 blocks, 20 blocks, off the Island of Manhatten.........
 

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I'm curious as to how far away a Mosque must be to not be "offensive"... 5 blocks, 10 blocks, 20 blocks, off the Island of Manhatten.........

Of course what they mean is 1,000,000 blocks away at least.

And I suppose they figure any bodies of Muslims recovered from the rubble ought to be buried as far away as possible too, eh.
 

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Of course what they mean is 1,000,000 blocks away at least.

And I suppose they figure any bodies of Muslims recovered from the rubble ought to be buried as far away as possible too, eh.

I'm sure any Muslims found at ground zero would have been clasified as terrorist sympathisers at least or possibly even complicit in the actual attack. As were every Muslim, men women and children, around the world.
 

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I'm sure any Muslims found at ground zero would have been clasified as terrorist sympathisers at least or possibly even complicit in the actual attack. As were every Muslim, men women and children, around the world.

Of course. They're probably happy about the Muslims who died on that day as 'just retribution'; now they just wish the memory of those Muslims could be forgotten and wiped out from all records. If only the family and friends of the Muslim victims could just shut the f**k up, eh. It's not serving the anti-Muslim cause here.
 

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You replied to me initially, and I was talking about Muslims. What did you think you were responding to?

Not all Muslims can be painted with the same brush. That was what I was saying. Then you said all Muslims have militaristic jihad in common.

So just what the hell were you saying if not that all Muslims follow militaristic jihad?

Straw man, no not really :roll:

See post 134, I guess you missed the edit.
 

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I'm curious as to how far away a Mosque must be to not be "offensive"... 5 blocks, 10 blocks, 20 blocks, off the Island of Manhatten.........

How about far enough away to not be called "An Islamic call to Prayer from the World Trade Center Rubble", which was the original Malaysian title of Imam Rauf's book.
 

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What I'm really asking for is proof that all Muslims follow this school of thought when it comes to Jihad. It's clear to me that not all Muslims follow that school of thought:
http://www.rferl.org/content/Islamic_Scholar_No_Jihad_Against_Noncombatants/2002988.html

His views on suicide bombings and killing of non-combatants is refreshing. However, if you dig deeper I think you'll find what he's saying about Jihad is that only a Caliph can declare offensive Jihad. Since there is currently no Caliph, technically there is no one who can declare Jihad. Seems like a nice enough guy, but doesn't really refute Spencer's assertion about Jihad.
 

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I'd like to know, JTF, are you in fact saying F**k you! to them or am I misunderstanding your somehow?

Clearly you take offense at granting the family and friends of these people the freedom to honour them as they wish. Now that's offensive.

That's an interesting spin but so far this thread is the only place I've seen it claimed that this Mosque has anything to do with being a memorial to the Muslims who died on 9/11. I bet Rauf is kicking himself for not having thought of that lol.