More the Marry in Bountiful, BC
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Fine, then, Pet. Go shoot the bastard.
It's not okay to dehumanize anyone.
You're honestly evil or evilly honest? lol
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Neither do I. But when sycophants like these Mormosexuals make a mockery of my country and it's law's then we have to do what we have to do or this will only get worse day by day.
how many of these kids will commit suicide in the 5 years before a law is passed and evidence is gathered to execute a warrant and how many years before they see a trial and the kids get justice?
how many of these kids will commit suicide in the 5 years before a law is passed and evidence is gathered to execute a warrant and how many years before they see a trial and the kids get justice?
evilly honest...but don't tell anyone.
Anyone can hire me as a cop do it. As long as the paperwork is good me & tikka will take care of the problem.
Actually it's pretty stable at Bountiful and not growing by any noticeable amount.
The kids don't commit suicide at Bountiful They do not know any other kind of a life so what they have is considered normal. The boys that get tossed out because they may be competition for the old men may have a large dose of culture shock when they join the reaql world, though.
As I've I said before; it worked for Clinton. It was the wake up call everyone needed.
Whether right or wrong it worked and the sun rose the next day on a much quieter tone when it came to cult leaders and safer for the rest of us.
It is easy to send warriors off to foreign lands and whitewash them as humanitarians so what sort of spin would be neccessary to to pick off a scab in the the BC interior and slap on a bandage so it heals properly?
Child brides are a different issue than plural marriage. We have laws against that already. Sex with a child under 14, is rape. Between 14 and 18, a young person can consent to sex legally with an adult, provided the person isn't in a position of authority. Over 18, you are an adult and able to legally consent to sex.
The issue here is the constitutional right of consenting adults to enter plural marriages.
I completely support the right of CONSENTING ADULTS to have personal relationships with other CONSENTING ADULTS without government interference. If these adults live in the same home and/or have children, then they and their children need legal protection. Which is why these marriages should be recognized.
The child bride issue should be treated the same regardless of whether its someone's first wife or not. They have to be able to legally consent and make their choice of their own free will. Forced marriages should be illegal regardless of age.
The issue here is the constitutional right of consenting adults to enter plural marriages.
I completely support the right of CONSENTING ADULTS to have personal relationships with other CONSENTING ADULTS without government interference. If these adults live in the same home and/or have children, then they and their children need legal protection. Which is why these marriages should be recognized.
The child bride issue should be treated the same regardless of whether its someone's first wife or not. They have to be able to legally consent and make their choice of their own free will. Forced marriages should be illegal regardless of age.
I have no problem with multiple marriages if all parties involved know what they are getting into. Young teens aren't likely to understand the implications, though (some adults can't understand them either). And then there's the issue of whether one person having multiple spouses is denying them equality or not, too, and that's a Charter matter. Also, if the person isn't using their spouses for slave labor or sex slaves, as it appears Blackmore does by trading wives around.
Then you are against underage marriage, forced marriages and exploitation. All of these issues are side issues to plural marriage between consenting adults. If you read the above posts you will see many people who oppose plural marriages are really against these other things. Its not different than people who oppose same sex marriage and they justify their position by arguing against men having sex with children, which is another issue.
In this case, Blackmore married four girls who were 15 at the time. His relationships with these young people from the time they were married until 18 was only legal if the parents and the girls consented and Blackthorn isn't in a position of trust or authority. Since Blackthorn is the community's religious leader, he is an authority and he could have been charged with rape. If these women are older than 18 now and consent to their relationship, then its too late.
The government should charge polygamists who marry young people under 18 with both polygamy and rape. The rape charges could stick, depending on the situation and testimony. At a minimum the rape charges would cause the polygamous communities to stop authorizing underage marriages, which most people agree is a problem. The polygamy charges would likely end up in the supreme court where Canada's polygamy law would be struck down as contradicting Canada's Charter and Constitution. Law makers would then have to come up with new laws to protect the legal rights of plural marriage spouses and their children in cases of separation and divorce.
Right now only the first wife and her children have legal rights and I see that as the real issue regarding polygamy.
What consenting adults do of their own free will sexually or relationship wise, is their business not mine.
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Why does anyone need more than one spouse at a time? The only thing that comes to my mind is slavery. When it comes to dirty old men marrying children (in my way of thinking, this would cover any girl under the age of 18 marrying anyone over the age of 35)it seems to me that Bountiful has more than it's share of dirty old men and women. That includes adults giving consent for their children to wed dirty old men. These children are raised to believe this is not only normal but that it is expected. What a sick woman it is that is willing to sit back and allow her husband to get it on with several other women including children. I am a firm believer in a monogamous relationship and have no tolerance for this silly "consenting adults" junk. If you can't stay true to one person the solution is simple. Don't get married.
views on marriage vary widely across cultures. I have no illusions about Western culture having the monopoly on what makes a 'right' life. Only the people involved in it can decide what is right for them. If someone says 'monogamy isn't for me', then they have every right, imo, to find what IS right for them, so long as it doesn't suppress someone else's rights.
What difference is there in having them all at once for long term or dumping them one at a time and moving on to the next as soon as the homeymoon's over?
Or just shacking up with four women with NO legal protections for them via a 'marriage'.
I suppose there is no legal protection if four women (or 2 or 3 ) are willing to shack up with one man. He can claim room mate status but anyone who shacks up with one person for around a year has as many legal ramifications as a married person does.
There is a difference. Some people get married after 3 weeks of dating and divorce after another 3 weeks of hating. If a person is foolish enough to think they will be "the one" to tame the rover after the rover has been married a few times already, they need to give their head a shake. We know a fellow that has been married several times. We obviously do not know him well but have known him for over 40 years. Just a few days ago I said to my husband that the guy is either a beater or a cheater. My husband took exception to my words (the guy is more a friend of his than mine). This is a 60 year old man who is good looking, is in great shape (pretty much looks like a man in his mid 40's) and has gone to another country to find a new wife. He may not be a beater but I think that at the very least, he's a control freak. I cannot understand why anyone would want to marry him with his track record of marriages. He talked to me for well over an hour one night on the phone and in that conversation he spoke of his last wife. He stated they were the best of friends, yet I could hear the anger in his voice as he spoke of her. Doesn't sound like best friends to me. He's the second man that I have heard use the exact same words. The other was a lawyer I worked for and he was a cheater.
...or you get the people who are just there for the new toy thrill and are gone with the final glimmers when the new wears off of their crystal chandeliers. This world is home to a lot of angry, hurt and troubled people. Some people are just the bug zapper that attracts 'em ... just by listening.
It didn't surprise me that the BC Supreme Court has dropped charges of Polygamy against Winston Blackmore and James Oler. Once a society has legitimized 'homosexual marriage' it turns that institution into a joke. It has lost all meaning, purpose and focus and simply becomes a superficial affirmation of any form of sexual gratification.
The fact that this incorporates a sick exploitation of adolescent girls, raised, denied education, indoctrinated by fear of divine retribution from birth to be sexual toys of dissolute and decrepit old men like Blackmore and Oler holds no resonance to a society where the legal protections for sexual exploitation hold sway over all structural and religious considerations.
The fact that this incorporates a sick exploitation of adolescent girls, raised, denied education, indoctrinated by fear of divine retribution from birth to be sexual toys of dissolute and decrepit old men like Blackmore and Oler holds no resonance to a society where the legal protections for sexual exploitation hold sway over all structural and religious considerations.
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To the point of deforming the character into a big bowl of jelly, where everything goes if it feels good. No thanks. :roll:
Would you mind rephrasing that into something intelligible? See ... as soon as you went off into a rant about homosexuality, I just dismissed anything you had to say on the matter as worthless.