Merger of the Century: Why Canada and America Should Become One Country

tober

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You're playing word games, "ivy League" means exactly what it is, nothing more nothing less.


"Ivy League" is a symbol of the US elite.

No, differing political views is a debate, you're outright liying.

Not for a moment. If you had a lie to show you would trot it out. You're just being insecure and nasty because, surprise surprise, a site full of Canadians is not exactly excited about the notion of joining the US. No First World nation would want to join the US.


For example, the US has a legal separation of church and state. Canada makes no such separation.


"Technically" speaking, and what else is a legal argument but technical, I think that statement is incorrect. America has no constitutional legislation which actually says 'there shall be separation of church and state'. The US Bill of Rights is a group of amendments to the US constitution, the first of which states:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
This is the part of the American constitution which is referred to as mandating separation of church and state.

Canada's version of same is not terribly different. Section 2 of our Charter says:
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
· (a) freedom of conscience and religion;
· (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
· (c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
· (d) freedom of association.

To the extent that the Constitution of the US can be said to require separation of church and state, so does our Charter.
 

Sons of Liberty

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"Ivy League" is a symbol of the US elite.


For the extreme left brainless American haters it is, in the real world it is an athletic conference comprised of a group of eight private institutions of higher education that NEVER turn away a single student because of their inability to pay. If they have applied themselves in their school years and get accepted, they WILL get grants and financial aid from these Ivy League schools (no not loans) and they will become an Ivy League student. It is that simple.


Not for a moment. If you had a lie to show you would trot it out. You're just being insecure and nasty because, surprise surprise, a site full of Canadians is not exactly excited about the notion of joining the US. No First World nation would want to join the US.

I'm not going to trot behid you enumerating every single lie you spew, I don't have that kind of time, I am way too busy being a capitalist pig. And so what if you do not want to join? Who the **** said we want you anyway?






"Technically" speaking, and what else is a legal argument but technical, I think that statement is incorrect. America has no constitutional legislation which actually says 'there shall be separation of church and state'. The US Bill of Rights is a group of amendments to the US constitution, the first of which states:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
This is the part of the American constitution which is referred to as mandating separation of church and state.


Constitutional amendments make it part of the Constitution, what's your point?

Canada's version of same is not terribly different. Section 2 of our Charter says:
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
· (a) freedom of conscience and religion;
· (b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
· (c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
· (d) freedom of association.

To the extent that the Constitution of the US can be said to require separation of church and state, so does our Charter.


I disagree, I will start another thread.

 

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This is the tidbit that sets them apart.


Okay, I see an argument for that. I don't think the effect is any different though. Canada has a United Church Act whose purpose was to create an administrative framework for the institution of the church when several churches merged.
Its purpose primarily effects the property rights of the new institution. It does not dictate any matter of faith, nor does it include or exclude any person. The US version prohibits the establishment of a state religion. Establishing a religion is a far cry from protecting institutional property rights when (as was the case) major social institutions merge. I have doubts whether the US position would prevent the enacting of the kind of statute like the United Church Act because of the wording and history of the Act.

I am comfortable with the notion that church and state are separate in Canada. Under the Charter no federal, provincial or territorial government can mandate the practice of religion.

 

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#80Re: Merger of the Century: Why Canada and America Should Become One Country

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Quote: Originally Posted by gopher
Gee, what a surprise!

Up to now, all these right wing Canuckleheaded wannabes have loved the Republican party and everything they stand for - now all of a sudden they don't want to be a part of the system their party fücked up.


How predictable!!!






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Soon, we will be buying parts of America.
Why would we merger with them when we can flat out buy them.
 
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Soon, we will be buying parts of America.
Why would we merger with them when we can flat out buy them.

Of course, buying parts of the US is the preferred method for the following reasons:
1. Canadians get to choose those regions we will assimilate.
2. Buying is a free-market principle; merging and sharing is socialism.
3. When real estate is purchased, we as the owners will decide who the residents will be.
4. Land values appreciate. Canada will be able sell portions at a profit to highest bidders.
5. Purchasing resource -rich regions will allow Canadians to benefit without having to despoil our own pristine areas.
6. Purchasing is acquiring though stealth rather than war. Americans will freely participate in our manifest destiny.
7. Areas we will not purchase will become "Bantustans" isolating barbaric peoples. Good fences make good neighbours.
8. The Bantustans will provide a reservoir of cheap labour.