Islandpacific, ask yourself if this was an incident where the RCMP were not involved would you be so irritated or adamant about protecting those who appear guilty ?
I say appear because as we know they have not been found that way.
I must say that looking at it from a different angle I would tend to believe most people would have already Convicted and Put in Jail a "Muslim or Asian" 4 people attack on a person at the Airport under similar circumstances..
We need to step back, look at everything that happened and correct the mistakes so they do not ever happen again. This will ensure that our RCMP will never have to endure such public scrutiny for such a horrific scene again..
Judges, Doctors, RCMP's are human and all make mistakes.. We need to hold them all accountable when they do as we are accountable for our mistake in our daily jobs as each and everyone one of us can go to jail for doing something wrong. All of us know our limits and we need to stay within them.
It does not mean we lose all respect for the police but as this drags on and people make it worse, it certainly drops it down a notch.. The quicker this ends the better..
SirFrancis, you have said many true things. The thing that has bothered me the most with all the pushing of this story by China is the loss of respect for the whole organization. This case has been made so public. I have protected these four because I truly believed a member simply would not allow that to happen. As I told you via PM, I have seen and known members who committed crimes and they went to jail for it and of course lost their jobs forever. There was a time when that kind of shame was not highly publicized but it certainly never went un-punished. People are so of the opinion that the police get a slap on the wrist and go back to work and no one cares. Well, I don't believe it would be any different than where I work. If a cashier stole even $20.00 from a till, then I would never trust her with anything again. Don't you see that once something of this nature occurs, those members are never trusted again. Like my husband, I searched for reasons for these members to be totally innocent. I guess to a degree I needed them to be. Like everyone else, there comes a time when the writing is on the wall and both my husband and myself agree, there is a problem here. Both of us feel there will be charges laid. Both of us feel all this went too far. I still believe (we believe)there was never any intent to kill but it happened none the less. We do not understand why the member shot the man five times. The first one seemed un-necessary, the second one too much and the rest - who knows. Someone gave an opinion that the woman speaking to him had him calmed down. Well I have a totally different opinion of that whole scene. I watched the video and at first I thought maybe she could speak his language. He looked at her for quite awhile and finally she appeared to give up. Not blaming her. She tried and it was not her job to have to calm him down. But, she did not have him calmed. It was immediately after talking to her that he started throwing things around. I actually believe that he became more agitated after attempting to understand her and neither of them getting anywhere. Anyway, that's kind of besides the point as we will likely never know exactly what went on at that point.
It has taken time to give in to the reality that the officers are probably lying and that's an embarrassment for my family and numerous other police families. Where we once held our heads high with pride we now have to hang them low with embarrassement. That's not easy.
Yes, humans make mistakes but this appears to be an adrenalin filled mistake. Maybe someone over anxious to do a good job but still his training should have held him back and the mistake should not have happened. He claims he was told to shoot a second time but I don't see where that gave him the right to shoot 3 more times. That they all appear to be telling the same lies really scares me.
So, all I have left to say is to those I have argued hard with - I'm sorry. I was a believer in what I thought was the police doing the job they were trained to do. I still believe that they need re-training (all the members that have graduated over the last 5 - 10 years) and trained in a talk first, shoot later situation like this one.
I can tell you with complete honesty, that on the first day the news broke on this, my husband said "why did they taser him". He said he would have asked for two chairs. One for himself and one for the victim. He would have asked for a glass of water to be brought to the victim. It was and still is his opinion that a show of friendliness may have calmed him down until an interpreter could be found. I believe I have said this before on here somewhere unless it was on the old forums.
Now I have said more than enough and I hope that we can all let this go. If they get charged then you can all say "I told you so".
