The fear-mongering surrounding Harper is laughable. By the way, some of that spending is why our economy has leveled out.
Looks Like the Dreaded Spring Election is on!
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The fear-mongering surrounding Harper is laughable. By the way, some of that spending is why our economy has leveled out.
Foolish move is more like it.
They could have called in sick for the vote, as they have in the past, and let it pass by a slim margin. That would have given them time to capitalize on the Contempt charges and in and out allegations. Now, they look opportunistic and arrogant speaking for Canadians who most assuredly did not want an election. We all understand that there are some people who dislike Harper on an almost visceral level, but that vote is already secure. They presume to speak for the Canadians who stated they don't want this and as a result there may be a backlash for such arrogance.
You mean take the cowards way out?
They would look opportunistic if they had the lead in the polls, they have been bad for weeks leading up to this.
Do it now before the story dies in the Canadian way all stories do....apathy.
An election is due anyways, using money as an excuse not have an election is in the face of democracy.
look to the budget number
OK - We have the cost for more prisons - Cost really unknown
The new fighter.
The new ships.
That is only 3 -
My post is not fear mongering - Its all in the numbers. When conservative papers roll those numbers out - that is not fear mongering - It is the reality of what Canada is facing over the next 10 - 20 years or so.
Lastly - Does the GG have the authority to refuse Harper and offer the Offical Opposition a chance to form a Govt - i think he does - Now that would be interesting i would say.
That's hillarious Avro, I hope you realize how you've opened yourself up to ridicule with such a statement. Any idiot can run head long toward their demise, coward or not, they're still an idiot if they did not choose to fight and win another day rather than run against impossible odds on a hope and a prayer.
Hey man, I already know what the outcome is going to be. Unless the coalition is working behind the scenes this is a ridiculous waste of time and money.
Prisons are overcrowded and several dangerous offenders including child molesters are put back out into society simply because we can not house them.
I know Liberals like keeping Child Molesters and Murders right? They just don't like paying for it.
Both of these fall under defense. Our armed forces is only now beginning to crawl out of the the neglect and abuse from our previous Liberal government. The F 18 is decades old. I know Liberals hate spending money on defense when it is so much better spent on fake advertising in Quebec.
The deficit we have incurred is also thanks to opposition party's approving such spending. I don't remember hearing Jack whining about the auto bail out. I cant remember if Celine or Iggy was heading the Libs then.
It's wishful thinking, but plausible, but I got a feeling that it won't happen.
At the end of the day it will be the voter who makes the call and if the chips fall as I think they will, there will not be a lot of dry eyes in this house. (err forum)
Its going to be an interesting election, lots of back and forth here there and everywhere, and though I didn't want an election I will enjoy the debate.
Cheers.
M
Of course. The authority rests with His Excellency the Right Honourable David Johnston C.C., C.M.M., C.O.M., C.D., F.R.S.C., the Governor General of Canada, to dissolve -- or not dissolve -- the 40th Parliament of Canada. It's almost a certainty, though, that His Excellency will not refuse the prime minister's advice. It we had held an election less than six months ago, then the vice-regal discretion to invite someone else to form a Government might be a stronger thing.
He's always a "riot"- many the night my wife and I have giggled outselves to sleep reflecting on Avro's musings. :lol:
Well if you already know we should just leave it to you and not bother ever having an election, I bow to your psycic ability.
Very true but we do't need to spend $10 billion. Use what we have more wisely and stop paying for prisoners to have luxuries and we don't need to add much at all
Spending money on Defense is one thing, spending it on Offense is something entirely different. Take all the wasted money from invading foreign countries for our corporate American rulers and you get more new fighters than Harper want to buy now.
The auto bail-out was not such a bad idea as it was supposed to save thousands of jobs, shame it didn't work out that way once they got the money. The bank bail-out o the other hand simply made a bunch of millionaires into multi-millionaires, not a good trade for our tax dollars there.
if Ii recall was it Trudeau that waited 18 Months when he was in a minority?? Why
Is it?
Have I?
I don't see it that way at all.
I know you and the other cons like to blow off the government being in contempt but not me. It is the first time in histroy of any parlimentary democracy by a seasoned speaker.
This government does not deserve a vote of confidence and does not need the opposition to scamper away to fight on a day when the story has been buried. You presume the outcome so let's just consult you when or when not to have an election.
You said earlier that you supported stimulous spending well consider this another 300 million dollar boast to the econmoy for democracy.
Is this a political mistake by the opposition, perhaps, but I don't like politics.
It's the right thing to do and the right time.
It's in the hands of the people now, where it should be.
Funny, I've shown the pic of you and saggy tits and gotten a few laughs as well.
Glad we could help each other out.:smile:
Yes, that's right. The prime minister of the day can request an election at any time; since he had already governed for eighteen months, it would have been unreasonable for the Governor General to have rejected the request. This isn't always the case, though; when Mackenzie King asked for Parliament to be dissolved, the Governor General refused, because there was a question of confidence before the House, and invited someone else to form a Government. It all depends on the circumstances of the day.
Thanks, but no need to bow. A simple tip of the hat will do.
Well actually, using the Don Jail as example they are presently giving double time served for every day. Removing privileges/luxury will not alleviate the cost of prison. Thorold jail gives no privileges to its short timers and as a result there are fights almost every day. So where do you stand on this jail thing. Lock em up? Hang em? Chain gang? You're talking out both sides your mouth here.
Oh pleez..... You were doing so well. Now you just look like another inept conspiracy nut. What's your poison of choice? Caspian sea? Or 911 Truther?
Horse crap. GM is now a sustainable company, if the bail out had not happened they would be gone. They have also been adding second shifts and they just won best car of the year. Honest to god grab some facts.
So to boil it all down the GG can ask the Official Opposition to form a Govt.
He already did. If the vote is in minority and a coalition with more sitting members than the minority asks he can consider it.
Its called THE IGGY PLAN
Actually that would not be a bad idea. beside, a majority coalition would certainly be more stable than a minority party. But I do agree he will probably simply dissolve Parliament. Owing to so many elections in the last few years though, should there still not be a majority party, I could see him decide to invite the majority coalition to form a government, regardless of whether that coalition inclused the plurality party or not.
Now I could also see this potentially backfire on such a coalition. Let's suppose for a moment that there is no majority party and the majority coalition comprises the Bloc, the Liberals and the NDP, while it may provide stability for 4 to 5 years, it would quite possibly hand over a conservative majority following that. But of course 4 to 5 years is a long time in politics, and this is assuming many would be concerned with the Bloc in a coalition.
Anotehr possible coalition would any two of the conservatives, Liberals and NDP, or all three together should 2 not suffice to form a majority.
All this of course is not accounting for independent MPs, the Green party, or any other party that could come up. After all, just as the Bloc has transformed the face of Canadian politics, there is nothing to say that a sudden increase of independents or some new party could not do the same.
His Excellency won't be doing that tomorrow morning.
It has been too long since the last election; the prime minister has every right to advise dissolution.
And just to be clear, even if Her Majesty's Government for Canada is overpowered in this upcoming general election by the Liberal Party of Canada, that doesn't mean that the Conservatives would no longer be the Government. If no party wins a majority in the next election, regardless of whether the Conservatives have the most seats or not, The Right Honourable Stephen Harper P.C., M.P. (Calgary Southwest), the Prime Minister, would have the right to meet the new House of Commons and attempt to secure its support.
I think you are in error - The GG can ask the Official Opposition to try and form a Govt - They do not or are not obliged under our system to ask. It is at the sole discretion of the GG to ask or grant an election request.He already did. If the vote is in minority and a coalition with more sitting members than the minority asks he can consider it.
Its called THE IGGY PLAN
Sorry guys. You're not getting the Genie back in the bottle. This election is coming and the Liberals are going to fall on their swords.
On the bright side you'll be getting a new leader. I believe he will be located behind the
You may be right. Although I think it is beyond unlikely that he would do it this far along. I was referring to after an election, but confess that Paradox' knowledge of parliamentary procedure far exceeds mine.
On the bright side you'll be getting a new leader. I believe he will be located behind the
You may be right. Although I think it is beyond unlikely that he would do it this far along. I was referring to after an election, but confess that Paradox' knowledge of parliamentary procedure far exceeds mine.
He already did. If the vote is in minority and a coalition with more sitting members than the minority asks he can consider it.
Its called THE IGGY PLAN
Iggy has a plan???
He actually has a four point plan.
- PLAN A THE RED DOOR
- PLAN B THE RED/ORANGE/TURNCOAT DOOR
- PLAN C Get up off this chair and have a Poop
- PLAN D Return to Haaaaarvard...
No, a bow will do...while i face the other way and drop my pants..hope you like the view
Chain gangs..good. Put em to work making something for the good of the country.
Double time off...bad. Why give a 12 month sentence if we let em out in 3 months.
Some criminals beating the crap out of each other...don't bother me one bit. Better they do it to each other than the honest people.
That said I don't think its right to be jailing some schmuck for growing weed or selling a dime bag. Legalize pot and tax it. You then remove $100 million in court costs, another $100 million in prison costs, free up a bunch of jail cells, and increase govt revenue by $1 billion or so.
No dark conspiracies here, if you know where to look and what to look for it is all there in the open to be seen.
Car of the year, whoohoo, first time in how many decades. I am glad to hear they are adding some shifts, now if they would bring back all the jobs they sent overseas in the last 15 years we might be getting somewhere.
Doesn't make the bank bail-out any better. That will be up to $500 billion since 2007 by the end of this year and for what...so they can keep foreclosing on those who lost their jobs thanks to the finacial crisis caused by...the banks. What a great plan.