Looks Like the Dreaded Spring Election is on!
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Japan's economy is 82% internal and not tied to any 'free trade' or 'economic union'. That is why they were the least affected by the finacial meltdown and remained fairly stable throughout.
Back to the election...I can guarantee the outcome of an election right now. More of the same BS. It will not matter one iota who wins or whether it is a majority or minority. The money that backs all parties is corrupt and has other motives than the good of the country ergo nothing will change.
Democracy is a great concept if it works properly.
Unfortunately with all the corporate donations and corporate lobbyists it is now nothing but a sham to make the people think they have something to do with what is going on. The Supreme court of BC and the Court of the Queen's Bench in AB have both made rulings that elected officials have absolutely no legal duty to represent the constituents after they are elected and confirmed that they have almost total immunity for anything they do contrary to the interests of those constituents. You also have the 'whipped vote' in parliament.
So, given that they are bought and influenced with big money, are not legally resposible or accountable, and can be forced by the party to vote against the interests of the people or their own consience I would say that our system is broken and nothing will change.
Right... like all the speculation about where he comes from, his hidden agenda, and all kinds of other baseless assumptions?
How about our politicians behaving like respectable adults?
Not according to Japanese Mutual Funds I held for several years and finally dumped at a loss so I could benefit from a "capital loss". I got those funds years before the "Wall street gang rape". Check with your financial adviser. :smile:
Actually they are all a bunch of sleaze balls- if the electorate was smart none of us would vote for ANY of them.
I have asked this question for a long time.
What would they do if they held an election and nobody showed up to vote?
Obviously the pols and their corporate buddies will show and so will most government employees so there will always be some turn-out, but is there a minimum number of voters required to make it legitimate? If there is a minimum what would be the result if that minimum was not met? Could we, the working class, run a separate, simultaneous election and seize power from the established corrupt system?
Anyone want to takle these questions?
Yeah, I don't understand why politicians like to paint elections as bad things. Maybe because it works and people actually start believing it and blaming the opposition for causing this most unwelcome exercise of democracy.
On the other hand, I can see how some people might be annoyed. I probably won't change my vote (though I might change ridings) and if the idea is that I'm giving my opinion on who should run the country, I might respond "didn't I just ****in' tell you?" Though I wouldn't because I love telling people what I think and if I change ridings I might be able to help unseat Ujjal Dosanjh.
That is funny. You think attack ads are democratic. Attack ads are an avoidance of issues. They appeal to the emotions, stifle critical thought and hide the real issues behind a smoke screen of BS. But I noticed by your posts that that is your style, so it is understandable that you like them.
Sounds like our country is going to the dump!!!
Errrr, are you doing anything to try to change it ??just asking !!
Attack ads avoidance of issues, emotional, stifle critical thought etc etc, can't handle it eh??? So you want someone to tell you how to think, what to think etc etc, and probably you want someone to tell you how to vote. I guess you dont like freedom of expression or thought either.
Not me, I love democracy and I have a lot of faith in the Canadian voters.
So to those running, I say bring it on, MOST of us can handle it and can see thru the stupidity (cliffy is an exception).!!
Errr, yes.
I am constantly in the face of my local MP & MLA. I also try to email the PM, Premier and their cabinets as well as all the opposition leaders at least once a week to express my opinions and ask what they are doing and where they stand on issues.
I am also heavily involved with the leadership of Canada Uncut. If you do not know what this is please go to canadauncut.net or look us up on facebook or twitter. We are trying to get the banks, corporations and wealthy to pay their share and close all the 'offshore' loopholes they use.
I am also trying to gather support to form a group to institute governmental reform lobbying for laws or constitutional ammendments to hold our politicians accountable to the people and remove all corporate money and influence from the government.
What are you doing??
Ah, you've forgotten (conveniently) that the NDP and Liberals are dumping the Conservative government because they are not spending ENOUGH money.......
I hope that clears it up for ya!
So what you're trying to tell me is that the Liberals and the NDP want to spend more money on prisons and fighter jets? Or do you mean that 2.3 billion for seniors and the unemployed is more than enough? 45 billion on killing people in foreign countries and locking people up here < 2.3 billion to put food on the table and a roof over the head of vulnerable and unfortunate Canadians.
You're priorities are fu cked up dude.
Who needs 35 billion for jets not to go to war?
According to who? Canadians have always been known to punch above their weight. Ask any military that knows and you will hear that Canadian troops are second to none.
Then why vote for it?
Haven't I read you saying that some prisoners should be put into general population so that justice can be done? This is all that is after all. A violent offender turned prison snitch getting facing justice just the way so many people here call for from time to time. Now it's all wrong and Corrections Canada is to blame? I mean, pick one and don't be ashamed of your choice man.
If someone had said that McGray and Phillips shouldn't have been put into the same cell, I suppose you would bitch about that too.
Neither Layton nor Ignateiff have formed a federal government so how can you say they are worse than Harper?
Sounds like fear to me.
Yet Harper and the Reformatives have attempted a coalition of the Bloc the NDP and themselves as an alternative to the Liberal minority in the past.
Did you vote for Harper in that election? I think you did didn't you Colpy. Here is sign.
Coalition governments have to work together and so it is that there is no fear of one member of any coalition getting the upper hand on the others. That's just the fear talking Colpy. It's strong in you but remain calm friend, I won't let any big bad coalitions come and take all your guns away. But you still have to register them.
Tell me how attack ads add to the political debate. How can people decide anything or think critically when the issues are avoided. To my thinking, attacking the opposition on a personality basis is meaningless drivel to hide the fact that the parties are afraid to discuss the issues or don't want the electorate to be informed. Attack ads are not information - just mud slinging, a muddying of the waters. It has nothing to do with freedom of expression, it just amounts to a bunch of emotionally retarded kids beating each other over the heads with their Tonka toys ina sand box. I don't want to be represented by a bunch of emotional retards. I want people who can think and solve the problems that we are facing. But I see you prefer the emotionally retarded type of politics.
Good for you, I'm glad to hear we have people, like you, who stand up for what they believe. Good on you !!!
I'm afraid you have me beat hands down, my excuse is I always seem to be busy. But thats no excuse, I agree. I have to get more involved like you have, your Post inpires me !!!