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De:4:27-31:
And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations,
and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen,
whither the LORD shall lead you.
And there ye shall serve gods,
the work of men's hands,
wood and stone,
which neither see,
nor hear,
nor eat,
nor smell.
But if from thence thou shalt seek the LORD thy God,
thou shalt find him,
if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.
When thou art in tribulation,
and all these things are come upon thee,
even in the latter days,
if thou turn to the LORD thy God,
and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
(For the LORD thy God is a merciful God
he will not forsake thee,
neither destroy thee,
nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.
Christians and all other people on the planet will be around for the 3 woes. It is only the 3rd one that believers are exempt from as that is the 7th trump and that brings on the 7 vials of Re:16. Repented people will be experiencing Re:10 instead was the earth gets sifted. 2/3 are sinners and they die on the day the 3rd woe comes, believers are survivers.
Re:8:13:
And the fourth angel sounded,
and the third part of the sun was smitten,
and the third part of the moon,
and the third part of the stars;
so as the third part of them was darkened,
and the day shone not for a third part of it,
and the night likewise.
And I beheld,
and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven,
saying with a loud voice,
Woe,
woe,
woe,
to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels,
which are yet to sound!
Re:11:15:
And the seventh angel sounded;
and there were great voices in heaven,
saying,
The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord,
and of his Christ;
and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Zec:13:8-9:
And it shall come to pass,
that in all the land,
saith the LORD,
two parts therein shall be cut off and die;
but the third shall be left therein.
And I will bring the third part through the fire,
and will refine them as silver is refined,
and will try them as gold is tried:
they shall call on my name,
and I will hear them:
I will say,
It is my people:
and they shall say,
The LORD is my God.
Judas was possessed by Satan when he kissed Jesus in the garden, when that ended the grief caused him to commit suicide. Propecy determined one person would fulfill that, it is one of many, many, many prophecies fulfilled by Jesus. That act was pivotal to this verse happening and it was the Temple staff that were the ones that God caused to be the killers of His son, just like they were the killers ot OT Prophets and Prophet Stephen in the NT.
I hope other areas of your life aren't as twisted as tour bible thinking is.
Zec:13:7:
Awake,
O sword,
against my shepherd,
and against the man that is my fellow,
saith the LORD of hosts:
smite the shepherd,
and the sheep shall be scattered:
and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
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Exactly. no. But he did spin it HIS way. Just because he "said" he received a vision, doesn't mean he did. Jim Jones, David Koresh, Charles Manson, all said they received "visions from God". As far as I am concerned, he screwed with Christ's message.
Wrong. Paul changed the message.
Pauls stuff is quite solid Gerry, not a word about the meat Jesus. Christsn message is repeated every minute of the day for eternity never stops, you're growin g on it like rust, some sunlight would be nice
The two messages are based on who will be affected the most by the Ge:3:15 prophecy concerning the two bruises. Moses and the cross marks the beginning and end of the bruise to the heel. When Jesus said, 'It is finished.' moments before dieing on the cross it was the heel bruise that He was referencing and all things written in prophecy and historical writings that detail the literal events leading up to that event. That leaves the OT ptophecy not fulfilled as being for the bruise to the head of Satan and that is when Jesus puts him in the Pit. When Jesus says. 'It is done'' as he pours out the last vial that is the completion of the bruise to the head. Acts:10 had God make all food clean for Jews and then Gentiles began to be taught about God.
Gentiles are the 'little ones' in Zec:13 and the judgment is 3 1/2 years after proof of God is available and it is marked by two people being raised from the grave a few days after being put thete by somebody in Jerusalem who is determined to sit on a throne on holy ground in Jerusalem. If the other signs are missed that one should be 'noticed' so it would be a good day to say to God, 'Have mercy on me, a sinner.' Results rely on the sincerity of the statement at the time.
Isa:42:9:
Behold,
the former things are come to pass,
and new things do I declare:
before they spring forth I tell you of them.
Isa:40:15:
Behold,
the nations are as a drop of a bucket,
and are counted as the small dust of the balance:
behold,
he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.
Isa:42:4:
He shall not fail nor be discouraged,
till he have set judgment in the earth:
and the isles shall wait for his law.
Jer:25:26:
And all the kings of the north,
far and near,
one with another,
and all the kingdoms of the world,
which are upon the face of the earth:
and the king of Sheshach shall drink after them.
Jer:25:29-33:
For,
lo,
I begin to bring evil on the city which is called by my name,
and should ye be utterly unpunished?
Ye shall not be unpunished:
for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth,
saith the LORD of hosts.
Therefore prophesy thou against them all these words,
and say unto them,
The LORD shall roar from on high,
and utter his voice from his holy habitation;
he shall mightily roar upon his habitation;
he shall give a shout,
as they that tread the grapes,
against all the inhabitants of the earth.
A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth;
for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations,
he will plead with all flesh;
he will give them that are wicked to the sword,
saith the LORD.
Thus saith the LORD of hosts,
Behold,
evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented,
neither gathered,
nor buried;
they shall be dung upon the ground.
Zec:13:7-9:
Awake,
O sword,
against my shepherd,
and against the man that is my fellow,
saith the LORD of hosts:
smite the shepherd,
and the sheep shall be scattered:
and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
And it shall come to pass,
that in all the land,
saith the LORD,
two parts therein shall be cut off and die;
but the third shall be left therein.
And I will bring the third part through the fire,
and will refine them as silver is refined,
and will try them as gold is tried:
they shall call on my name,
and I will hear them:
I will say,
It is my people:
and they shall say,
The LORD is my God.
Zec:14:16:
And it shall come to pass,
that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King,
the LORD of hosts,
and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
1Co:15:51-54:
Behold,
I shew you a mystery;
We shall not all sleep,
but we shall all be changed,
In a moment,
in the twinkling of an eye,
at the last trump:
for the trumpet shall sound,
and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
and we shall be changed.
For this corruptible must put on incorruption,
and this mortal must put on immortality.
So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption,
and this mortal shall have put on immortality,
then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written,
Death is swallowed up in victory.
Re:10:1-7:
And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven,
clothed with a cloud:
and a rainbow was upon his head,
and his face was as it were the sun,
and his feet as pillars of fire:
And he had in his hand a little book open:
and he set his right foot upon the sea,
and his left foot on the earth,
And cried with a loud voice,
as when a lion roareth:
and when he had cried,
seven thunders uttered their voices.
And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices,
I was about to write:
and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me,
Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered,
and write them not.
And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever,
who created heaven,
and the things that therein are,
and the earth,
and the things that therein are,
and the sea,
and the things which are therein,
that there should be time no longer:
But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel,
when he shall begin to sound,
the mystery of God should be finished,
as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Da:12:1-3:
And at that time shall Michael stand up,
the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
and there shall be a time of trouble,
such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time:
and at that time thy people shall be delivered,
every one that shall be found written in the book.
And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,
some to everlasting life,
and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament;
and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
You envision that did you, what gives your vision any authority. God saved Paul from a few shipwrecks, murder plots, prison stays. You would not get that kind of protection. God wouldn't even give you a thorn to keep you humble. You are already humble gerr and that is the highest level you will see at this rate.
2Co:12:1-10:
It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory.
I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord.
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago,
(whether in the body,
I cannot tell;
or whether out of the body,
I cannot tell:
God knoweth
such an one caught up to the third heaven.
And I knew such a man,
(whether in the body,
or out of the body,
I cannot tell:
God knoweth
How that he was caught up into paradise,
and heard unspeakable words,
which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
Of such an one will I glory:
yet of myself I will not glory,
but in mine infirmities.
For though I would desire to glory,
I shall not be a fool;
for I will say the truth:
but now I forbear,
lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me to be,
or that he heareth of me.
And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations,
there was given to me a thorn in the flesh,
the messenger of Satan to buffet me,
lest I should be exalted above measure.
For this thing I besought the Lord thrice,
that it might depart from me.
he said unto me,
My grace is sufficient for thee:
for my strength is made perfect in weakness.
Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities,
that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities,
in reproaches,
in necessities,
in persecutions,
in distresses for Christ's sake:
for when I am weak,
then am I strong.
Of course the Egyptians could say the same thing with a few pictures and some scracthes call hyroglypics er somethin, they werre smart pictures don't put you to sleep so easy
sunshine always makes me happy, tune from the eightys maybe
sunshine always makes me happy, tune from the eightys maybe
Quick way to separate the children of the light from the children of the darkness, guess which group you belong to?
1Th:5:1-9:
But of the times and the seasons,
brethren,
ye have no need that I write unto you.
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
For when they shall say,
Peace and safety;
then sudden destruction cometh upon them,
as travail upon a woman with child;
and they shall not escape.
But ye,
brethren,
are not in darkness,
that that day should overtake you as a thief.
Ye are all the children of light,
and the children of the day:
we are not of the night,
nor of darkness.
Therefore let us not sleep,
as do others;
but let us watch and be sober.
For they that sleep sleep in the night;
and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
But let us,
who are of the day,
be sober,
putting on the breastplate of faith and love;
and for an helmet,
the hope of salvation.
For God hath not appointed us to wrath,
but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
That sound you hear when you see Scripture isn't a choir as they don't sound like the word 'zoom'.
I hope you have some area in your life where 50 words doesn't give you an aneurism.
When you are pulling people out of sin where would you go but to where the sinners are. The Flock isn't a gathering tool, the Shepherd is, at this moment it is the words in the Bible, nobody is forcing you to reject it that is on your head pal.
Gentiles weren't part of 'my people' until Act:10. Apostles gathered sinners, when you hang with sinners, you will get treated like a sinner gerr. If you chose to reject that teaching that is something between you and God. I have my instructions and they come from a higher authority than you.
1Co:5:11:
But now I have written unto you not to keep company,
if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator,
or covetous,
or an idolater,
or a railer,
or a drunkard,
or an extortioner;
with such an one no not to eat.
Ask and you shall receive. Anything earlier is in braille.
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He's a servant of Jesus, just like Jesus is a servant of God.
That's a lot a hate from a Cather such as yourself since Paul did preach in Rome.
That's a lot a hate from a Cather such as yourself since Paul did preach in Rome.
The Bible was written by God to tell people what was going to happen. Not everyone was meant to be 'enlightened' by the words in the book.
Joh:20:26-29:
And after eight days again his disciples were within,
and Thomas with them:
then came Jesus,
the doors being shut,
and stood in the midst,
and said,
Peace be unto you.
Then saith he to Thomas,
Reach hither thy finger,
and behold my hands;
and reach hither thy hand,
and thrust it into my side:
and be not faithless,
but believing.
And Thomas answered and said unto him,
My Lord and my God.
Jesus saith unto him,
Thomas,
because thou hast seen me,
thou hast believed:
blessed are they that have not seen,
and yet have believed.
Even with the 3 1/2 years before the judgment there is only 1/3 of the planet that will be saved on the day the 7th trump sounds and they will be part of the ones alive for the 1,000 year reign. That reign will perfect them and they become witnesses to God sending all fallen angels to the fiery lake, then the ones not alive are brought back to life at a time when they cannot fall into sin again. God doesn't lose any person but it is a two part gathering process without a doubt and the dividing line is clearly stated in many passages. You won't be able to change that ratio and at the moment personal prayer is the only way to get yourself into the first group.
Jesus didn't write anything down, that was left to 'His servants' to do after He rose from the dead. Why are their visions valid and Paul's not?
Joh:7:39:
(But this spake he of the Spirit,
which they that believe on him should receive:
for the Holy Ghost was not yet given;
because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
Joh:14:26:
But the Comforter,
which is the Holy Ghost,
whom the Father will send in my name,
he shall teach you all things,
and bring all things to your remembrance,
whatsoever I have said unto you.
1Co:15:20-28:
But now is Christ risen from the dead,
and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
For since by man came death,
by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die,
even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
But every man in his own order:
Christ the firstfruits;
afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
Then cometh the end,
when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,
even the Father;
when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
For he must reign,
till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
For he hath put all things under his feet.
But when he saith all things are put under him,
it is manifest that he is excepted,
which did put all things under him.
And when all things shall be subdued unto him,
then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him,
that God may be all in all.
Proverb:8:22-36:
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning,
or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths,
I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
While as yet he had not made the earth,
nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens,
I was there:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
When he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
When he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment:
when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Then I was by him,
as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight,
rejoicing always before him;
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.
Now therefore hearken unto me,
O ye children:
for blessed are they that keep my ways.
Hear instruction,
and be wise, and refuse it not.
Blessed is the man that heareth me,
watching daily at my gates,
waiting at the posts of my doors.
For whoso findeth me findeth life,
and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul:
all they that hate me love death.
Joh:20:26-29:
And after eight days again his disciples were within,
and Thomas with them:
then came Jesus,
the doors being shut,
and stood in the midst,
and said,
Peace be unto you.
Then saith he to Thomas,
Reach hither thy finger,
and behold my hands;
and reach hither thy hand,
and thrust it into my side:
and be not faithless,
but believing.
And Thomas answered and said unto him,
My Lord and my God.
Jesus saith unto him,
Thomas,
because thou hast seen me,
thou hast believed:
blessed are they that have not seen,
and yet have believed.
Even with the 3 1/2 years before the judgment there is only 1/3 of the planet that will be saved on the day the 7th trump sounds and they will be part of the ones alive for the 1,000 year reign. That reign will perfect them and they become witnesses to God sending all fallen angels to the fiery lake, then the ones not alive are brought back to life at a time when they cannot fall into sin again. God doesn't lose any person but it is a two part gathering process without a doubt and the dividing line is clearly stated in many passages. You won't be able to change that ratio and at the moment personal prayer is the only way to get yourself into the first group.
No gerr, you have that wrong also.
Jesus didn't write anything down, that was left to 'His servants' to do after He rose from the dead. Why are their visions valid and Paul's not?
Joh:7:39:
(But this spake he of the Spirit,
which they that believe on him should receive:
for the Holy Ghost was not yet given;
because that Jesus was not yet glorified.)
Joh:14:26:
But the Comforter,
which is the Holy Ghost,
whom the Father will send in my name,
he shall teach you all things,
and bring all things to your remembrance,
whatsoever I have said unto you.
1Co:15:20-28:
But now is Christ risen from the dead,
and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
For since by man came death,
by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die,
even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
But every man in his own order:
Christ the firstfruits;
afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
Then cometh the end,
when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God,
even the Father;
when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
For he must reign,
till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
For he hath put all things under his feet.
But when he saith all things are put under him,
it is manifest that he is excepted,
which did put all things under him.
And when all things shall be subdued unto him,
then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him,
that God may be all in all.
Proverb:8:22-36:
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning,
or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths,
I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
While as yet he had not made the earth,
nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens,
I was there:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
When he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
When he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment:
when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Then I was by him,
as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight,
rejoicing always before him;
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.
Now therefore hearken unto me,
O ye children:
for blessed are they that keep my ways.
Hear instruction,
and be wise, and refuse it not.
Blessed is the man that heareth me,
watching daily at my gates,
waiting at the posts of my doors.
For whoso findeth me findeth life,
and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul:
all they that hate me love death.
Now that I know it bothers you so much maybe I'll put it into 2nd gear. Why come to the theology threads if they bother you so much and you have so little to contribute?
It makes you look like a troll.
It makes you look like a troll.
Have you read the book of Ecclesiastes, MHz?
"The more the words, the less the meaning, and how does that profit anyone?" (Ecclesiastes 6:11 NIV)
Clarity and brevity.