Living Christ

[MHz]

Really?? You have 100 words used to describe something and you can whittle it down to 10 words and have it be more clear, I'm going to say no. I will add that if what I post is not crystal clear then stop at the first moment and post something about what is unclear, I'd be more than happy to expand on that part and them move on until the whole issue is covered.
If you want to use the 'too many verse' as a way to avoid discussion I don't have an issue with that either although when you promote that your understand is greater than mine then I'll just flat out reject that claim and stop trying to explain anything. Dex is a good example of that, when the topic doesn't go his way he will use such tactics, like saying I'm insulting him when doing a short post only narrows down the possible replies. If the long ones get condemned and the short ones get no reply then fine, why waste my time when he is clearly nothing but a troll. The above part shouldn't even be part of any post but it will be the part that you and others latch onto rather than the very greatr differences between the two verses and since the KJV is from the original Greek then your version is a corrupt one and hold no teaching value at all.

If reading a whole passage is hard for you I'm not sure what you want me to do about it. It seals the context while your method of one Scripture and then many words of yours certainly leaves more room for error. (nobody that is serious about bible study uses anything but the KJV btw)

Ec:6:11:
Seeing there be many things that increase vanity,
what is man the better?

 

[Cliffy]

(nobody that is serious about bible study uses anything but the KJV btw)

In your opinion, which seems to be at odds with the rest of the world. Your interpretation of these much mistranslated and misinterpreted texts is also at odds with the rest of the world.

 

[MHz]

In your opinion, which seems to be at odds with the rest of the world. Your interpretation of these much mistranslated and misinterpreted texts is also at odds with the rest of the world.

I would agree that being a literalist and a futurist makes me pretty rare but it doesn't make me stupid. It would point to me being better at understanding the texts on my own as there are no existing papers that mirror what I promote the 'message' as being. You,ve hrad about 1/50 of what I can cover in the book without 'becoming as confused' as you are after reading anything at all, yet you are the wise one in this while not suffering from any vanity. My knowledge came through 25 years of study so I have that as my base.

I'm not so sure about your mental faculties though, how many times do I need to post that the 1611KJV used the original Hebrew of the OT and the original Greek for the NT. The copyright that goes with it also means it hasn't changed since then but every other English Bible since then has been changed in many places in order to get it's own copyright and you would try an claim they are the better version, sorry to break the news but that makes you the one on the wrong side of the stupid line.

 

[Cliffy]

I would agree that being a literalist and a futurist makes me pretty rare but it doesn't make me stupid. It would point to me being better at understanding the texts on my own as there are no existing papers that mirror what I promote the 'message' as being. You,ve hrad about 1/50 of what I can cover in the book without 'becoming as confused' as you are after reading anything at all, yet you are the wise one in this while not suffering from any vanity. My knowledge came through 25 years of study so I have that as my base.

I'm not so sure about your mental faculties though, how many times do I need to post that the 1611KJV used the original Hebrew of the OT and the original Greek for the NT. The copyright that goes with it also means it hasn't changed since then but every other English Bible since then has been changed in many places in order to get it's own copyright and you would try an claim they are the better version, sorry to break the news but that makes you the one on the wrong side of the stupid line.

You believe everything you read. The KJV says so, so it must be so. Gullible and OCD are more accurate descriptions of your obsession with that antiquated work of fiction.

 

[gerryh]

I have my instructions and they come from a higher authority than you.

I already know that you consider Satan to be a higher authority. He is not my higher authority though. That is where you and I differ.

 

[MHz]

You believe everything you read. The KJV says so, so it must be so. Gullible and OCD are more accurate descriptions of your obsession with that antiquated work of fiction.

Actually I read a lot and then check out everything as far as I can and then hold onto what is 'consistent', if that doesn't fit your standards that isn't my problem.
If the book is 'Greek' to you why would you spend so much time on a flawed subject, talk about a wasted life. I started reading it in earnest after I became a believer, before then I never cracked the cover once nor was it part of any daily conversation. It isn't like you don't have 1,000's of post in the Christian section that is basically the same message, 'I don't believe a word in the Bible.' How many times do you need to post that, I understood that the first time you posted it so the other times are for who?

I already know that you consider Satan to be a higher authority. He is not my higher authority though. That is where you and I differ.

Jesus is, you mentioned that, my reply was that Jesus didn't write anything down, He had the followers do that after He had risen from the grave and His words in the Gopsels say that the Gospels would be a work done with assistance from the Holy Spirit through visions and voices, the same kind that Paul had. I don't blame you for avoiding this part of it. lol

Under those rules you have to reject even Moses and all other OT Prophets as they were all collected in the same way. You would even reject God because He is a 'voice without a body'.

M'r:9:7:
And there was a cloud that overshadowed them:
and a voice came out of the cloud,
saying,
This is my beloved Son:
hear him.

 

[Motar]

Really?? You have 100 words used to describe something and you can whittle it down to 10 words and have it be more clear,

Absolutely, MHz.

If you want to use the 'too many verse' as a way to avoid discussion I don't have an issue with that either although when you promote that your understand is greater than mine then I'll just flat out reject that claim and stop trying to explain anything. Dex is a good example of that, when the topic doesn't go his way he will use such tactics, like saying I'm insulting him when doing a short post only narrows down the possible replies. If the long ones get condemned and the short ones get no reply then fine, why waste my time when he is clearly nothing but a troll.

Dex is not claiming to be a Christian and some of your comments are insulting.

since the KJV is from the original Greek then your version is a corrupt one and hold no teaching value at all. If reading a whole passage is hard for you I'm not sure what you want me to do about it. It seals the context while your method of one Scripture and then many words of yours certainly leaves more room for error. (nobody that is serious about bible study uses anything but the KJV btw)

Your acknowledgement of KJV-onlyism explains a lot.

To be clear and brief:

"Do not be quick with your mouth, do not be hasty in your heart to utter anything before God. God is in heaven and you are on earth, so let your words be few." (Ecclesiastes 5:2 NIV)

 

[MHz]

To be clear and brief:
"Do not be quick with your mouth, do not be hasty in your heart to utter anything before God. God is in heaven and you are on earth, so let your words be few." (Ecclesiastes 5:2 NIV)

Ec:5:1:
Keep thy foot when thou goest to the house of God,
and be more ready to hear,
than to give the sacrifice of fools:
for they consider not that they do evil.
Ec:5:2:
Be not rash with thy mouth,
and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God:
for God is in heaven,
and thou upon earth:
therefore let thy words be few.

Isa:55:8:
For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,
saith the LORD.
Isa:55:9:
For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways,
and my thoughts than your thoughts.

If you want to trade single verses but reject the passage the reference verse comes from I can certainly do that but it is a game for x-mas day after dinner rather than it being a learning tool.

If you look at the whole most your words are more than the Bible making your words many and Scripture few. By the amount I've just posted I've created quite a buffer for myself.
I'm sure that by the time my words outweigh the passages the message will be quite clear, universal salvation, for man and for beast of burden is the summation that the bible expands on.
Since I can't change the text of the Scripture just posted we get to use mine as far as reference material goes or you can explain why your version is the one that should be considered to be the correct one. I would certainly find it easy to spend pages and pages defending the text I use. I'll also point out I use some text as a reference for an opinion rather than having an opinion and then looking for the version that best fits that. I'm quite sure if one Rabbi has given the 1611KJV text the okay as being as perfect as it gets in the world of translations then it is no longer a point up for debate..

When that text is compared to the newest version of something like the Jerusalem Bible and the topic is Da:9 and the 70 weeks and what it means you will find a vast difference in just what the message is. In the KJV it is a cog in a wheel as far as being completely understood using those words alone.
The newest and easiest version (agenda is only possible in one version) it is clear who the 'he' is while in the KJV the beginning of the passage has covenants associated with the God of Ge:1 rather the serpent of Ge:3:15. That is a current topic that should be hot still.

More Scripture and fewer opinions is the message, to have one on the bible you have to consider the bible, how about Ge:1-3 and Re:20-22 as being a 'summation' and then the discussion about what the Kingdom of God is all about

Absolutely, MHz.

Really? (short for bull****) Ready to take the acid test? I'm obviously going to stack the deck in my favor.
Isa:65 is an expansion of a group that is only introduced within the last few passages contained in the Book of Revelation so an accurate reading of that one passage would be impossible. The ones called 'the rest' is not given in the passage they first appear in (their beginning) but their end is given a time that spans 1,000 years and a 'little season' after their beginning. Isa:65 begins with a dsescription of their 'attitude towards God while having the same level of control that was available before the flood. ( a lengthy topics that covers all of Jude, do your summation on that one page if you would be so kind)
The term 'sword' is the connection between the two references and 'the rest' are unique because that is the only place where entering the grave has a person remain awake. Your favorite OT book says the grave is a void, Isa:65 is anything but a void as the whole chapter is about that one group from their beginning until their ultimate fate of being alive forever in the new earth while making their home outside new Jerusalem.
There are a few verses about the differences between two groups, those that are alive and those who are in hell. The beggar Lazarus and the Rich Man is the prophecy. The manifestation into reality begins with the trumps sounding about 3 1/2 years before the sword comes for 'the rest'. Servants are immortal and sinless people and are the whole House of Israel as defined in Eze:37:1-14 and the Church as defined in the 7 letters. The 12 Tribes are experiencing a resurrection except for the 144,000 and they are witnesses, just like the survivers of the 7 vials are witnesses to the Church members that need a resurrection to be part of the living during the 1,000 years. That combined group is trained in being a Saint as the fire that sends Satan to the lake would also have taken them and their destiny without that time with Christ. God is with the ones in Hell, how else would He know what they were saying while Satan is in chains.
Christ is said to have the keys before the letters are given to the Church and they would have to be out before the trumps start to sound so hell is open at that time. Eze:39 says Israel will see the grave before they see salvation and the same place Jonah went will be open for them should Jesus decide that is where they need to be for them to experience the transformation that is promised in the last part of Matthew:23. It is the same process that gentiles face before they meet God, the one that can kill you with death and then torment you. The 12 Tribe members could be there for no more than 3 1/2 years as their ultimate destiny is to be alive as soon as that option becomes available. Satan's followers will then be sent to that same place. Being the little bitch I am and seeing them on their way to paradise I can certainly say, 'Thanks for lighting the fires.' knowing full well that if they so much as twinged that they would be coming down with me. As it stands that day of judgment for me is someplace in the future and I have no reason to question what Christ has in mind of the ones that fuk with His Church.

Re:18:6:
Reward her even as she rewarded you,
and double unto her double according to her works:
in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

Dex is not claiming to be a Christian and some of your comments are insulting.

He is claiming to be an expert though. His version seem to be a post explaining his version and then it is a closed subject.
Any discussion is an insult.
You can imagine how bad it would be if vanity was also an issue with the 'expert'. I'm quite sure the 'experts' are the actual Scribes who wrote what we both read today, we both qualify as being 'gentle readers' as such we are both entitled to an opinion.
The term 'grace' has a limited number of references and after reading them you should have an 'opinion', is that opinion going to be more accurate than that of somebody who has looked up the passages the verses come from. Considering the term 'God forbid' I'm going to go with reading the passages gives you the best bet at understanding the 'message'.
One verse from Luke says Jesus told them about all things in the OT that applied to Him. That goes back to a prophecy by Moses.

Way back when I did my first post on a Christian subject here it was made pretty clear by Dex that listening was not an option, here you were here to learn only so saying belief in a literal God brought out the retard label. Then mentioning the 6M number had been reduced and memorial plagues had the updated number, talk about **** hitting the fan, permanently. Sorry was that supposed to scare me away, coming from the bush to the other side of the 'overpass' just had be realizing there were pricks on this side too, u-turns are options in my world and that isn't my destiny. Blanket condemnation from then until today and the tactics are the very same, very troll like if you use the urban dictionary. Small town, just where do you hide when hounded? This is about as small town as you can get.

Your acknowledgement of KJV-onlyism explains a lot.

Such as what?
Did you just lose your train of thought there or is mind reading part of the requirement of 'your readers'?
Please elaborate cause it sounds kind of insultish.
The KJV is 'the standard' when exploring prophecy just because everybody is using a standard text so the discussion is about the same words rather than about which words should even be there. If you want to 'chat' about that part we could start with the term 'all flesh seeing salvation' compared to 'all people seeing salvation' as there are 3 other forms of flesh on this planet, only one version is correct.

 

[Motar]

Ec:5:1:
Keep thy foot when thou goest to the house of God,
and be more ready to hear,
than to give the sacrifice of fools:
for they consider not that they do evil.
Ec:5:2:
Be not rash with thy mouth,
and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God:
for God is in heaven,
and thou upon earth:
therefore let thy words be few.

Isa:55:8:
For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,
saith the LORD.
Isa:55:9:
For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways,
and my thoughts than your thoughts.

If you want to trade single verses but reject the passage the reference verse comes from I can certainly do that but it is a game for x-mas day after dinner rather than it being a learning tool.

If you look at the whole most your words are more than the Bible making your words many and Scripture few. By the amount I've just posted I've created quite a buffer for myself.
I'm sure that by the time my words outweigh the passages the message will be quite clear, universal salvation, for man and for beast of burden is the summation that the bible expands on.
Since I can't change the text of the Scripture just posted we get to use mine as far as reference material goes or you can explain why your version is the one that should be considered to be the correct one. I would certainly find it easy to spend pages and pages defending the text I use. I'll also point out I use some text as a reference for an opinion rather than having an opinion and then looking for the version that best fits that. I'm quite sure if one Rabbi has given the 1611KJV text the okay as being as perfect as it gets in the world of translations then it is no longer a point up for debate..

When that text is compared to the newest version of something like the Jerusalem Bible and the topic is Da:9 and the 70 weeks and what it means you will find a vast difference in just what the message is. In the KJV it is a cog in a wheel as far as being completely understood using those words alone.
The newest and easiest version (agenda is only possible in one version) it is clear who the 'he' is while in the KJV the beginning of the passage has covenants associated with the God of Ge:1 rather the serpent of Ge:3:15. That is a current topic that should be hot still.

More Scripture and fewer opinions is the message, to have one on the bible you have to consider the bible, how about Ge:1-3 and Re:20-22 as being a 'summation' and then the discussion about what the Kingdom of God is all about




Really? (short for bull****) Ready to take the acid test? I'm obviously going to stack the deck in my favor.
Isa:65 is an expansion of a group that is only introduced within the last few passages contained in the Book of Revelation so an accurate reading of that one passage would be impossible. The ones called 'the rest' is not given in the passage they first appear in (their beginning) but their end is given a time that spans 1,000 years and a 'little season' after their beginning. Isa:65 begins with a dsescription of their 'attitude towards God while having the same level of control that was available before the flood. ( a lengthy topics that covers all of Jude, do your summation on that one page if you would be so kind)
The term 'sword' is the connection between the two references and 'the rest' are unique because that is the only place where entering the grave has a person remain awake. Your favorite OT book says the grave is a void, Isa:65 is anything but a void as the whole chapter is about that one group from their beginning until their ultimate fate of being alive forever in the new earth while making their home outside new Jerusalem.
There are a few verses about the differences between two groups, those that are alive and those who are in hell. The beggar Lazarus and the Rich Man is the prophecy. The manifestation into reality begins with the trumps sounding about 3 1/2 years before the sword comes for 'the rest'. Servants are immortal and sinless people and are the whole House of Israel as defined in Eze:37:1-14 and the Church as defined in the 7 letters. The 12 Tribes are experiencing a resurrection except for the 144,000 and they are witnesses, just like the survivers of the 7 vials are witnesses to the Church members that need a resurrection to be part of the living during the 1,000 years. That combined group is trained in being a Saint as the fire that sends Satan to the lake would also have taken them and their destiny without that time with Christ. God is with the ones in Hell, how else would He know what they were saying while Satan is in chains.
Christ is said to have the keys before the letters are given to the Church and they would have to be out before the trumps start to sound so hell is open at that time. Eze:39 says Israel will see the grave before they see salvation and the same place Jonah went will be open for them should Jesus decide that is where they need to be for them to experience the transformation that is promised in the last part of Matthew:23. It is the same process that gentiles face before they meet God, the one that can kill you with death and then torment you. The 12 Tribe members could be there for no more than 3 1/2 years as their ultimate destiny is to be alive as soon as that option becomes available. Satan's followers will then be sent to that same place. Being the little bitch I am and seeing them on their way to paradise I can certainly say, 'Thanks for lighting the fires.' knowing full well that if they so much as twinged that they would be coming down with me. As it stands that day of judgment for me is someplace in the future and I have no reason to question what Christ has in mind of the ones that fuk with His Church.

Re:18:6:
Reward her even as she rewarded you,
and double unto her double according to her works:
in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.


He is claiming to be an expert though. His version seem to be a post explaining his version and then it is a closed subject.
Any discussion is an insult.
You can imagine how bad it would be if vanity was also an issue with the 'expert'. I'm quite sure the 'experts' are the actual Scribes who wrote what we both read today, we both qualify as being 'gentle readers' as such we are both entitled to an opinion.
The term 'grace' has a limited number of references and after reading them you should have an 'opinion', is that opinion going to be more accurate than that of somebody who has looked up the passages the verses come from. Considering the term 'God forbid' I'm going to go with reading the passages gives you the best bet at understanding the 'message'.
One verse from Luke says Jesus told them about all things in the OT that applied to Him. That goes back to a prophecy by Moses.

Way back when I did my first post on a Christian subject here it was made pretty clear by Dex that listening was not an option, here you were here to learn only so saying belief in a literal God brought out the retard label. Then mentioning the 6M number had been reduced and memorial plagues had the updated number, talk about **** hitting the fan, permanently. Sorry was that supposed to scare me away, coming from the bush to the other side of the 'overpass' just had be realizing there were pricks on this side too, u-turns are options in my world and that isn't my destiny. Blanket condemnation from then until today and the tactics are the very same, very troll like if you use the urban dictionary. Small town, just where do you hide when hounded? This is about as small town as you can get.


Such as what?
Did you just lose your train of thought there or is mind reading part of the requirement of 'your readers'?
Please elaborate cause it sounds kind of insultish.
The KJV is 'the standard' when exploring prophecy just because everybody is using a standard text so the discussion is about the same words rather than about which words should even be there. If you want to 'chat' about that part we could start with the term 'all flesh seeing salvation' compared to 'all people seeing salvation' as there are 3 other forms of flesh on this planet, only one version is correct.

Perhaps you might want to start a "KJV only" thread, MHz. I just sent you a friend request.

 

[MHz]

I'm quite sure somebody would think I was preaching or something like that.
I saw the request, I have one with Goober also, we chat about everything on the threads.
Gerr is saying I'm Satan so if I throw a lot of verse out that apply to him then it is a path to God, his version had me being in the fiery lake. I hope you aren't deny my right to point out that the book of Jude (in case you think I forgot) is not who I follow.

 

[Cliffy]

I'm quite sure somebody would think I was preaching or something like that.
I saw the request, I have one with Goober also, we chat about everything on the threads.
Gerr is saying I'm Satan so if I throw a lot of verse out that apply to him then it is a path to God, his version had me being in the fiery lake. I hope you aren't deny my right to point out that the book of Jude (in case you think I forgot) is not who I follow.

I dont think you are a minion of Satan, just a mixed up, fruit loop fundamentalist with visions of grandeur.

 

[Motar]

Ec:5:1:
Keep thy foot when thou goest to the house of God,
and be more ready to hear,
than to give the sacrifice of fools:
for they consider not that they do evil.
Ec:5:2:
Be not rash with thy mouth,
and let not thine heart be hasty to utter any thing before God:
for God is in heaven,
and thou upon earth:
therefore let thy words be few.

Isa:55:8:
For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways,
saith the LORD.
Isa:55:9:
For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
so are my ways higher than your ways,
and my thoughts than your thoughts.

If you want to trade single verses but reject the passage the reference verse comes from I can certainly do that but it is a game for x-mas day after dinner rather than it being a learning tool.

If you look at the whole most your words are more than the Bible making your words many and Scripture few. By the amount I've just posted I've created quite a buffer for myself.
I'm sure that by the time my words outweigh the passages the message will be quite clear, universal salvation, for man and for beast of burden is the summation that the bible expands on.
Since I can't change the text of the Scripture just posted we get to use mine as far as reference material goes or you can explain why your version is the one that should be considered to be the correct one. I would certainly find it easy to spend pages and pages defending the text I use. I'll also point out I use some text as a reference for an opinion rather than having an opinion and then looking for the version that best fits that. I'm quite sure if one Rabbi has given the 1611KJV text the okay as being as perfect as it gets in the world of translations then it is no longer a point up for debate..

When that text is compared to the newest version of something like the Jerusalem Bible and the topic is Da:9 and the 70 weeks and what it means you will find a vast difference in just what the message is. In the KJV it is a cog in a wheel as far as being completely understood using those words alone.
The newest and easiest version (agenda is only possible in one version) it is clear who the 'he' is while in the KJV the beginning of the passage has covenants associated with the God of Ge:1 rather the serpent of Ge:3:15. That is a current topic that should be hot still.

More Scripture and fewer opinions is the message, to have one on the bible you have to consider the bible, how about Ge:1-3 and Re:20-22 as being a 'summation' and then the discussion about what the Kingdom of God is all about




Really? (short for bull****) Ready to take the acid test? I'm obviously going to stack the deck in my favor.
Isa:65 is an expansion of a group that is only introduced within the last few passages contained in the Book of Revelation so an accurate reading of that one passage would be impossible. The ones called 'the rest' is not given in the passage they first appear in (their beginning) but their end is given a time that spans 1,000 years and a 'little season' after their beginning. Isa:65 begins with a dsescription of their 'attitude towards God while having the same level of control that was available before the flood. ( a lengthy topics that covers all of Jude, do your summation on that one page if you would be so kind)
The term 'sword' is the connection between the two references and 'the rest' are unique because that is the only place where entering the grave has a person remain awake. Your favorite OT book says the grave is a void, Isa:65 is anything but a void as the whole chapter is about that one group from their beginning until their ultimate fate of being alive forever in the new earth while making their home outside new Jerusalem.
There are a few verses about the differences between two groups, those that are alive and those who are in hell. The beggar Lazarus and the Rich Man is the prophecy. The manifestation into reality begins with the trumps sounding about 3 1/2 years before the sword comes for 'the rest'. Servants are immortal and sinless people and are the whole House of Israel as defined in Eze:37:1-14 and the Church as defined in the 7 letters. The 12 Tribes are experiencing a resurrection except for the 144,000 and they are witnesses, just like the survivers of the 7 vials are witnesses to the Church members that need a resurrection to be part of the living during the 1,000 years. That combined group is trained in being a Saint as the fire that sends Satan to the lake would also have taken them and their destiny without that time with Christ. God is with the ones in Hell, how else would He know what they were saying while Satan is in chains.
Christ is said to have the keys before the letters are given to the Church and they would have to be out before the trumps start to sound so hell is open at that time. Eze:39 says Israel will see the grave before they see salvation and the same place Jonah went will be open for them should Jesus decide that is where they need to be for them to experience the transformation that is promised in the last part of Matthew:23. It is the same process that gentiles face before they meet God, the one that can kill you with death and then torment you. The 12 Tribe members could be there for no more than 3 1/2 years as their ultimate destiny is to be alive as soon as that option becomes available. Satan's followers will then be sent to that same place. Being the little bitch I am and seeing them on their way to paradise I can certainly say, 'Thanks for lighting the fires.' knowing full well that if they so much as twinged that they would be coming down with me. As it stands that day of judgment for me is someplace in the future and I have no reason to question what Christ has in mind of the ones that fuk with His Church.

Re:18:6:
Reward her even as she rewarded you,
and double unto her double according to her works:
in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.


He is claiming to be an expert though. His version seem to be a post explaining his version and then it is a closed subject.
Any discussion is an insult.
You can imagine how bad it would be if vanity was also an issue with the 'expert'. I'm quite sure the 'experts' are the actual Scribes who wrote what we both read today, we both qualify as being 'gentle readers' as such we are both entitled to an opinion.
The term 'grace' has a limited number of references and after reading them you should have an 'opinion', is that opinion going to be more accurate than that of somebody who has looked up the passages the verses come from. Considering the term 'God forbid' I'm going to go with reading the passages gives you the best bet at understanding the 'message'.
One verse from Luke says Jesus told them about all things in the OT that applied to Him. That goes back to a prophecy by Moses.

Way back when I did my first post on a Christian subject here it was made pretty clear by Dex that listening was not an option, here you were here to learn only so saying belief in a literal God brought out the retard label. Then mentioning the 6M number had been reduced and memorial plagues had the updated number, talk about **** hitting the fan, permanently. Sorry was that supposed to scare me away, coming from the bush to the other side of the 'overpass' just had be realizing there were pricks on this side too, u-turns are options in my world and that isn't my destiny. Blanket condemnation from then until today and the tactics are the very same, very troll like if you use the urban dictionary. Small town, just where do you hide when hounded? This is about as small town as you can get.


Such as what?
Did you just lose your train of thought there or is mind reading part of the requirement of 'your readers'?
Please elaborate cause it sounds kind of insultish.
The KJV is 'the standard' when exploring prophecy just because everybody is using a standard text so the discussion is about the same words rather than about which words should even be there. If you want to 'chat' about that part we could start with the term 'all flesh seeing salvation' compared to 'all people seeing salvation' as there are 3 other forms of flesh on this planet, only one version is correct.

In my experince, MHz, carpet-bombing folks with large volumes of random Scriptures does not produce Christian faith. Not only is the target missed, but collateral damage in the form of discussion frustration/fatigue ensues.

I cannot embrace KJV-onlyism because it eliminates God from the salvation/sanctification scenario.

 

[darkbeaver]

In my experince, MHz, carpet-bombing folks with large volumes of random Scriptures does not produce Christian faith. Not only is the target missed, but collateral damage in the form of discussion frustration/fatigue ensues.

I cannot embrace KJV-onlyism because it eliminates God from the salvation/sanctification scenario.

More accurate carpet bombing.

I suspect that carpet bombing by large volumes of scriptures random or otherwise does drive Christian faith simply because they for the most part have no time or ability to understand what the hell they are reading and eventually succumb to the impressive bulk of the tome and its legions of devoted followers, they want to belong ,sheep are like that. Devine intelligence and reason were the prime messages of all scriptures and nothing else. Remember the old warnings of not casting pearls before swine well what we have today is millions of adherants who have no idea of what the hell they've adhered to other than the fellowship of howling and braying at the virtues of an alleged risen corpse who no contemporary of those times ever heard of. It took five hundred years of murdering pagans before those who new better were silenced and with that came the dark ages, the greatest accomplishment of christianism to date. In the christian fundementalist movement of today we can clearly see and understand a new dark age. A faster and deeper darkness was never dreamed of.
So the christian faith of today is very much the product of relentless blugeoning with unintelligable scribbled wreakage of once sound tomes of natural philosophy, the first science, the flowering of devine light of reason the arc of intelligence.

The Bible has been crassly taken for literal truth about living personages on the stage of mortal history. It has been rendered literally and historically. This is the most egregious blunder, the most grandious error, in all human history, this mistaking of spiritual allegorism for literal human narrative. We are in position to make the unqualified declaration for the first time in the modern age that there is not one iota of history, in the ordinary acceptation of that term, in the Bible from beginning to end. AB Khun Platonic Philosophy in The Bible

Each nation thus strove to have its history interpreted as a fulfilment of the sacred allegory; and its national history, thus diverted into the form of the celestial myth, was made into the national epic. And finally came the claim on the part of several, notably the Jews, that since their history fulfilled the outlines of the sacred story, they were proven to be the "chosen people" of God. There is not a scrap of evidence anywhere to identify the Israelites as the historical Hebrews or Jews. The latter simply appropriated the distinction to themselves and fitted their history into the sacred scheme. As proof

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of this it is offered that a monument in Egypt contained hundreds of Palestinian place names, afterward localized in the Holy Land of Judea, before the "historical" Exodus from Egypt. Hence the modern discovery of a town in Palestine bearing the name of a place mentioned in the Bible does not offer a single whit of proof that the Bible is history.

In it the Demiurgus enjoins the deities to come to earth and "unite mortal with immortal natures," promising them that they would "never be dissolved," if they held fast to their oath of purity and the covenant which they made with their Overlord. This is the covenant in the Old Testament which the Lord tells the Children of Israel (who were these junior gods, never the earthly Hebrews!) that they have broken times without number. For the gods, once incarnated, fell under the cloud of oblivion (drank the waters of Lethe), lost their divine memory and went "the way of all flesh" into carnality and beastliness. (See scores of passages in the Old Testament books). But after rebellion they finally came to earth, incarnated in mortal bodies of flesh and thus linked a divine principle of intelligence with a body and a sensual animal nature. And this fact is the basis of all religion. Man is a god and a beast in one organism.

 

[MHz]

I dont think you are a minion of Satan, just a mixed up, fruit loop fundamentalist with visions of grandeur.

Now that is just plain mean, you mock me even at my (supposed) worst. Just no fun being around you

In my experince, MHz, carpet-bombing folks with large volumes of random Scriptures does not produce Christian faith. Not only is the target missed, but collateral damage in the form of discussion frustration/fatigue ensues.

I cannot embrace KJV-onlyism because it eliminates God from the salvation/sanctification scenario.

You may discount my version of the Scriptures but you should never doubth that gathering anybody to God is, or ever has been, part of the joy I get out of looking at the various collections of jots in that particulat work. It is definitely in the realm of one-of-a kind, without a doubt.
Do you think I'm capable of making people feel bad against their will, complement that sends a shiver of fear up and down the spine, I'm impressed.

Collateral damage, we didn't even get into the 70 weeks topic or the latest find and how that fits in with what is over the closest horizon.

You must be up on some of that to be so confident about my version being flawed for any reason. I'm also a good listener if I get to pick the starting point. I'm pretty sure you aren't going to shock me or confuse me with anything.

More accurate carpet bombing.

(See scores of passages in the Old Testament books). But after rebellion they finally came to earth, incarnated in mortal bodies of flesh and thus linked a divine principle of intelligence with a body and a sensual animal nature. And this fact is the basis of all religion. Man is a god and a beast in one organism.

I'm always ever so amazed when I get seriously chastised for referencing too many verses from God by some Christian. Also in the Christian world, that would the sons of darkness, they got their name because they were so good at putting people's lights out. (the cheers of joy is the part that caused grief way back in that verse. As Satan that is a secret I hold close to my not a heart, . . . fuking mic, . . . 2x in one day, . . . almost perfect, . . . good enough. Contact, . . .

 

[darkbeaver]

Now that is just plain mean, you mock me even at my (supposed) worst. Just no fun being around you


You may discount my version of the Scriptures but you should never doubth that gathering anybody to God is, or ever has been, part of the joy I get out of looking at the various collections of jots in that particulat work. It is definitely in the realm of one-of-a kind, without a doubt.
Do you think I'm capable of making people feel bad against their will, complement that sends a shiver of fear up and down the spine, I'm impressed.

Collateral damage, we didn't even get into the 70 weeks topic or the latest find and how that fits in with what is over the closest horizon.

You must be up on some of that to be so confident about my version being flawed for any reason. I'm also a good listener if I get to pick the starting point. I'm pretty sure you aren't going to shock me or confuse me with anything.


I'm always ever so amazed when I get seriously chastised for referencing too many verses from God by some Christian. Also in the Christian world, that would the sons of darkness, they got their name because they were so good at putting people's lights out. (the cheers of joy is the part that caused grief way back in that verse. As Satan that is a secret I hold close to my not a heart, . . . fuking mic, . . . 2x in one day, . . . almost perfect, . . . good enough. Contact, . . .

Verses from god by some christian? None of the verses in the Bible are from any christian so when "some christian" chastises you for referencing to many verses from Egyptian originals neither of you should be troubled much. I appreciate your outreach MHZ and your zeal, both on some as yet undefinable level. What I find odd about your study of the subject at hand is that you appear to have stopped half way up the tree and left the ripest fruit unpicked at the top.
I'll give you one ferinstance, the Reed Sea was plucked out of the original work and substituted with the Red Sea by a scribe for a reason less than admirable. I'll dig up the paragraph later if you'd like.
There are keys to the bible, the ability to read is just the first.

 

[MHz]

I appreciate your outreach MHZ and your zeal, both on some as yet undefinable level.

I have mentioned that the Bible exercise was a hobby right?

Not really, if the day of the lord is a complex day then the various parts are going to seem somewhat disjointed. Sometime all it takes to put a person in the whistling mood is the author has the ending the best way possible for all concerned.

Try the name the local used, the Bitter Sea.

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Then you summize, the not so leaned Church is working off a summation already firmly in place. One that became popular no more than about 150 years ago is the one that will unflod in the conclusion that doesn't include an actual resurrection from the grave. The Jewish version is stuck to conclusions arrived at even before Rome became involved.

 

[Motar]

Now that is just plain mean, you mock me even at my (supposed) worst. Just no fun being around you


You may discount my version of the Scriptures but you should never doubth that gathering anybody to God is, or ever has been, part of the joy I get out of looking at the various collections of jots in that particulat work. It is definitely in the realm of one-of-a kind, without a doubt.
Do you think I'm capable of making people feel bad against their will, complement that sends a shiver of fear up and down the spine, I'm impressed.

Collateral damage, we didn't even get into the 70 weeks topic or the latest find and how that fits in with what is over the closest horizon.

You must be up on some of that to be so confident about my version being flawed for any reason. I'm also a good listener if I get to pick the starting point. I'm pretty sure you aren't going to shock me or confuse me with anything.


I'm always ever so amazed when I get seriously chastised for referencing too many verses from God by some Christian. Also in the Christian world, that would the sons of darkness, they got their name because they were so good at putting people's lights out. (the cheers of joy is the part that caused grief way back in that verse. As Satan that is a secret I hold close to my not a heart, . . . fuking mic, . . . 2x in one day, . . . almost perfect, . . . good enough. Contact, . . .

The best Bible version, MHz is the one we open and read : )

 

[Cliffy]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPl8V_21E-8

 

[B00Mer]

Jesus says to John come forth ill give you eternal life. John came fifth he won a toaster.

 

[JLM]

Jesus says to John come forth ill give you eternal life. John came fifth he won a toaster.

So who did come forth?