Lieutenant-General Roméo Antonius Dallaire

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A troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response and/or disrupt normal on-topic discussion.
Like you do with your posts, meant only to demonize Israel.

So you are a troll.

dellaire, just another murdering warmonger made into a hero by todays blood thirsty society's.


General Romeo Dallaire
That's a long read.

I bookmarked it and will go over it. But the main page, reads like stuff Mhz posts.
 

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All these posts on this thread that have nothing to do with Dallaire are technically trolling. I should have ignored them.
 

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I quoted exactly what they said in context. Then expressed my opinion based on what I believed to be their point. Why bring up Dallaire as an example in a thread about a crazed gun man who slaughtered innocent women and children if it wasn't to draw parallels?
 

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I quoted exactly what they said in context. Then expressed my opinion based on what I believed to be their point.
Like I siad, misrepresent what they said.

It's awesome to see you admit to it for a change.

Good for you.

Why bring up Dallaire as an example in a thread about a crazed gun man who slaughtered innocent women and children if it wasn't to draw parallels?
All one has to do, is read ES' question, to understand exactly what he was trying to convey.

I understood exactly what he was doing. I even said so in that thread.
 

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Like you do with your posts, meant only to demonize Israel.

So you are a troll.

That's a long read.

I bookmarked it and will go over it. But the main page, reads like stuff Mhz posts.

Was any of it written by Carrol Off - CBC type - She wrote tons on Lew MacKenzie - accused him of a number of foul acts - had dates, times, who he met, where he met them in the FRY - Oddly enough Lew rebutted - he was not even in the Country on the dates she mentioned.

Yet never a word on CBC that the book was full of inaccuracies - No Sir - protect their own.

All these posts on this thread that have nothing to do with Dallaire are technically trolling. I should have ignored them.

You set this OP up to Troll. Pretty scummy - But it fits you like a second skin.
 

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Was any of it written by Carrol Off...
Christopher Black, a writer for "Global Research", lol.

I knew the article Gh posted smacked of nuttery, and sounded like something Mhz would post.

But I'll go through it anyways.
 

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Seems Mr. Black is Lead Counsel, for the defence, of General Augustin Ndindiliyimana.

He parroting Peter Erlinder, who wrote an unsubstantiated Op/Ed for the Jurist. That was repudiated, by those who he had claimed to have interviewed.
 

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I quoted exactly what they said in context. Then expressed my opinion based on what I believed to be their point. Why bring up Dallaire as an example in a thread about a crazed gun man who slaughtered innocent women and children if it wasn't to draw parallels?

No you didn't. You said I compared the soldier who murdered 16 Afghans to Dallaire. I said nothing of the sort. I explained myself.

Now you're pizzed that people aren't flocking to your side.

You lie again.

Tell you what ES, put yourself in Dallaire's shoes. 10 Belgian keepers vs a large mob of about a 1000 people armed with rifles and machetes. You think an order to fight to the death in violation of your standing orders not to initiate a firefight was warranted.... You are going to tell me that without the benefit of hindsight and given the same standing orders as Dallaire, you'd have violated your orders and told the Belgian soldiers to fight to the death???

Oh heck yes I would... and I bet the Belgians would have done pretty darn well. But I'd NEVER send only 10 soldiers! That's not even a full squad! WTF!

BUT... if I had made the dumb azz mistake of sending 10... I surely would have sent more to get them out of dodge. I bet these 10 soldiers would have been able to hold out long enough. Eight of them held out for two hours with a pistol and an AK-47.

And yes... I'd violate UN orders in a heartbeat.
 

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I quoted exactly what they said in context. Then expressed my opinion based on what I believed to be their point. Why bring up Dallaire as an example in a thread about a crazed gun man who slaughtered innocent women and children if it wasn't to draw parallels?

Is that why you had the wrong posters names in context - Is that why that poster had to correct you. Shxt man we are so tired of correcting you.

Do you not ever learn.

No is the correct reply.

Time to apologize to the people you slammed is the proper thing to do.

Then request to have the Thread closed

Then put up a proper OP with Links and showing the various things that happened in this Genocide.

Include the French for starters, the UN Chain of Command with names - Those I gave you.

The countries that refused to do anything.

A proper OP. Is that beyond you?
 

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No you didn't. You said I compared the soldier who murdered 16 Afghans to Dallaire. I said nothing of the sort. I explained myself.

Now you're pizzed that people aren't flocking to your side.

You lie again.



Oh heck yes I would... and I bet the Belgians would have done pretty darn well. But I'd NEVER send only 10 soldiers! That's not even a full squad! WTF!

BUT... if I had made the dumb azz mistake of sending 10... I surely would have sent more to get them out of dodge. I bet these 10 soldiers would have been able to hold out long enough. Eight of them held out for two hours with a pistol and an AK-47.

And yes... I'd violate UN orders in a heartbeat.
Damn, I can only give you one thumbs up!
 

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I quoted ES accurately and he claims Dallaire sent the Belgian troops in to be slaughtered. I'd say he sent the Belgian troops in to protect the PM, rather than to be slaughtered.

Sending only 10 soldiers on that mission, turned out to be a mistake in hindsight, since they were outnumbered and outgunned. I doubt Dallaire would have ordered the Belgians to lay down their arms if he knew the consequences. Fighting to the death might have been preferable to their fate, but when Dallaire gave the order to surrender, those men were going to die, one way or the other. I believe Dallaire was trying to reduce the number of unnecessary deaths and never considered that the people he was dealing with, had no sense of compassion or would torture and kill unarmed men.

Lets suppose Dallaire did send 100 soldiers to the PM's house. that would have been 90 less soldiers deployed elsewhere. Likely that would have led to a senseless slaughter somewhere else or another group of UN peacekeepers being overwhelmed by sheer numbers.

The way I see it, Dallaire had no good options. IN hindsite, the best decision would have been to cut the PM loose and not attempt to save their life. IN hindsite the best decision probably would have been to consolidate his forces in one location and offer sanctuary to anyone who could get to that location.

I don't think its fair to say Dallaire was more than "operationally responsible" for the Belgian peacekeepers deaths. Dallaire's main problems were:

1) He had insufficient men and resources
2) Arms merchants in France, the UK and Israel were arming his attackers in violation of the arms embargo.

Anyway ES and Brusan made their comments regarding Dallaire, and I thought fellow Canadian Content Forum users should be aware of what they posted about Dallaire and debate them if they disagree. It appears that most people here agree with ES and Brusan and disagree with me regarding Dallaire, who I believe is a great Canadian, a role model and deserving of the Order of Canada. I disagree with pissing on Dallaire, but apparently I'm in the minority here.

Carry on.
25 posts before Israel gets the blame. New record.
 

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ES re Dallaire

Do you know the reason why he sent Belgians instead of his own?

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Hey he kept his boys safe! Can you imagine if the Yanks sent the Canucks to be slaughtered and completely without support?....

Saying that about Dallaire pushes a button for me. Congrats ES.

No you didn't. You said I compared the soldier who murdered 16 Afghans to Dallaire. I said nothing of the sort. I explained myself.

Now you're pizzed that people aren't flocking to your side.

You lie again.

My OP in this thread:
I disagree with some of the following expressed opinions regarding Lt-Gen Romeo Dallaire:

Anyone care to weigh in regarding Dallaire?

Later I wrote:

earth_as_one said:
Let me put it in context. It was a cut and paste from a thread about the US soldier who allegedly went AWOL in the middle of the night to gun down unarmed civilians. He killed innocent men, women and children including babies. ES and others intimated that this person isn't that different than Dallaire.

I understood your meaning that Dallaire is a murderer. He deliberately sent Belgians to their death. But upon rereading it, you never did answer your own question:


Do you know the reason why he sent Belgians instead of his own?

Instead you said this:

ES: "On the first night of the war, Rwandan government forces were murdering Tutsi and Hutu moderate politicians. Dallaire dispatched one unit of 10 Belgian peacekeepers to secure the home of Rwanda's prime minister. The Belgians were by far the most experienced of his soldiers. But they were ambushed, taken prisoner and later tortured, mutilated and murdered." Many are alive due to his (Dallaire's) actions? Are you serious? 800,000 were killed!

No ES please tell us... Why did Dallaire sent Belgians instead of his own?
 

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ES re Dallaire

Do you know the reason why he sent Belgians instead of his own?

and

Hey he kept his boys safe! Can you imagine if the Yanks sent the Canucks to be slaughtered and completely without support?....

Saying that about Dallaire pushes a button for me. Congrats ES.



I posted this:


Later I wrote:



I understood your meaning that Dallaire is a murderer. He deliberately sent Belgians to their death. But upon rereading it, you never did answer your own question:


Do you know the reason why he sent Belgians instead of his own?

Instead you said this:

ES: "On the first night of the war, Rwandan government forces were murdering Tutsi and Hutu moderate politicians. Dallaire dispatched one unit of 10 Belgian peacekeepers to secure the home of Rwanda's prime minister. The Belgians were by far the most experienced of his soldiers. But they were ambushed, taken prisoner and later tortured, mutilated and murdered." Many are alive due to his (Dallaire's) actions? Are you serious? 800,000 were killed!

No ES please tell us... Why did Dallaire sent Belgians instead of his own?

Fix the OP - Are you that dumb

gotta be a bitch when you're pwnd by eao.

Noted that you like EAO run away from hard questions, Mr. Pacifist - Yet you threaten violence upon posters. What type of Bullshxt Pacifist are you. The questions are on the other thread. Care to man up. Or will I get you typical numbnuts reply.
That is your style is it not.
 

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No you didn't. You said I compared the soldier who murdered 16 Afghans to Dallaire. I said nothing of the sort. I explained myself.

Now you're pizzed that people aren't flocking to your side.

You lie again.



Oh heck yes I would... and I bet the Belgians would have done pretty darn well. But I'd NEVER send only 10 soldiers! That's not even a full squad! WTF!

BUT... if I had made the dumb azz mistake of sending 10... I surely would have sent more to get them out of dodge. I bet these 10 soldiers would have been able to hold out long enough. Eight of them held out for two hours with a pistol and an AK-47.

And yes... I'd violate UN orders in a heartbeat.

So if I understand your point, you think Dallaire f'd up rather than was overwhelmed and faced an impossible situation..

Damn, I can only give you one thumbs up!

... and you agree?
 

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So if I understand your point, you think Dallaire f'd up rather than was overwhelmed and faced an impossible situation..



... and you agree?


Dellaire was the commander.... he was responsible... period.

The same as mckenzie was responsible for somalia and the airborne.