Liberals committed to never-ending deficits, debt

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Tuesday’s fall economic statement by Finance Minister Bill Morneau demonstrates why nothing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says in the 2019 federal election campaign about Canada’s debt and deficits can be trusted. Contrary to every message Trudeau delivered both before and during the 2015 election, Morneau laid out the real Liberal agenda going forward, which, to use his phrase, is “doubling down” on permanent deficits and wanton spending.

Trudeau, who infamously said budgets balance themselves and that you grow the economy from the heart outwards, is condemning future generations of Canadians to deal with the economic mess he’s locking into place once our economy slows down, as it inevitably will.

Indeed, despite Morneau boasting the Canadian economy is booming — the ideal time to pay down debt without unduly punishing taxpayers — Trudeau has committed us to never-ending deficits and debt.

That’s outrageous given that leading up to and during the early part of at the 2015 election campaign, Trudeau repeatedly pledged a Liberal government would run balanced budgets and hypocritically blasted the Harper Conservatives for running deficits, even though the Liberals demanded them in the wake of the 2008 global recession.

Then, in mid-campaign, Trudeau reversed himself, calling for “modest” deficits of $9.9 billion in 2016-17, $9.5 billion in 2017-18, $5.7 billion in 2018-19, with a $1 billion surplus in 2019-20, the final year of his election mandate.

Morneau’s fall economic statement exposes those numbers as a fabrication.

With the economy booming, according to Morneau, Trudeau now has a 2016-17 deficit of $17.8 billion, 80% higher than the $9.9 billion he projected during the 2015 election.

For the 2017-18 fiscal year, Trudeau now projects a $19.9 billion deficit, 109% higher than the $9.5 billion he predicted in 2015.

For the 2018-19 fiscal year, Trudeau now projects an $18.6 billion deficit, 226% higher than the $5.7 billion he predicted in 2015.

For the 2019-20 fiscal year, the final year of his election mandate, Trudeau now projects a $17.3 billion deficit, astronomically higher than the $1 billion surplus he predicted in 2015.
Morneau’s economic statement also predicts that in the first three years of the next Liberal government — should Trudeau win in 2019 — his deficits will be $16.8 billion in 2020-21, $13.9 billion in 2021-22 and $12.5 billion in 2022-23.

Morneau and Trudeau insist our roaring economy under their leadership enables them to spend billions of dollars more enhancing benefits for the “middle class” — apparently now defined as families with children under 18 and low-income workers — while lowering deficits compared to their predictions in their March, 2017 budget

But all that means is that they predicted deficits then they knew were higher than the real numbers, so they can claim they’re lower than expected now.

This cynical game Liberals have played for decades doesn’t make them good money managers. It makes them lousy budgeters.

The reality, as Canadians have seen in recent weeks, is that the Trudeau government is already so desperate for cash to pay off interest on government debt that it’s gone after small businesses, retail employee discounts and people suffering from diabetes.

That’s what Trudeau’s care bear economics leads to in the end.


Liberals committed to never-ending deficits, debt | Toronto Sun
 

Angstrom

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Just trust him. The budget will balance itself. And if it doesn’t who gives a shit about the children who will live in a debilitating economic environment.
 

DaSleeper

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Posted before but still true......:lol:

It's a slow day in the small town of Rubberboot and the streets are deserted.
Times are tough, everybody is in debt, and everybody is living on credit.
A tourist visiting the area drives through town, stops at the NoTell motel, and lays a $100 bill on the desk saying he wants to inspect the rooms upstairs to pick one for the night.
As soon as he walks upstairs, the motel owner grabs the bill and runs next door to pay his debt to the butcher.




(now... pay attention)




The butcher takes the $100 and runs down the street to retire his debt to the pig farmer.


The pig farmer takes the $100 and heads off to pay his bill to his supplier, the Co-op.


The guy at the Co-op takes the $100 and runs to pay his debt to the local prostitute, who has also been facing hard times and has had to offer her "services" on credit.


The hooker rushes to the motel and pays off her room bill with the motel owner.


The motel proprietor then places the $100 back on the counter so the traveler will not suspect anything


At that moment the traveler comes down the stairs, states that the rooms are not satisfactory, picks up the $100 bill and leaves.


No one produced anything. No one earned anything. However, the whole town now thinks that they are out of debt and there is a false atmosphere
of optimism and glee.




And that, my friends, is how a "government stimulus package" works!
 

Angstrom

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Why not use the model Iceland used?

Iceland and Canada are on different scale. The répercutions of Canada doing what Icleland did, would likely collapse the world economy. Unlike Iceland

Comparing the two is a exercise in stupidity.
 

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THe Liberals ran 9 straight surpluses - handed off to Haprer and he ran 5 straight deficits.

If Harper had continued on the trajectory he inherited we would be out of debt by now.
 

White_Unifier

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THe Liberals ran 9 straight surpluses - handed off to Haprer and he ran 5 straight deficits.

If Harper had continued on the trajectory he inherited we would be out of debt by now.

Paul Martin and Justin Trudeau are two very different breeds of Liberal.

Between Martin and Harper, I'd probably have chosen Martin. Between Harper and Trudeau, I'd lean Harper.
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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THe Liberals ran 9 straight surpluses - handed off to Haprer and he ran 5 straight deficits.

If Harper had continued on the trajectory he inherited we would be out of debt by now.

Martin used smoke and mirrors to create his 'surpluses'. He robbed from the provinces mainly but I think he dipped into EI and CPP as well. If you wonder why your provincial government is struggling with education and healthcare, it was the money Martin stole.

Also the first budgets under Harper were minority. The opposition parties effectively forced some of the stimulus spending. By the end of his term, he had it balanced again. Although iwith the current government's attitude, one can hardly complain about any deficit by any prior government.
 

Hoid

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Martin used smoke and mirrors to create his 'surpluses'.

They paid down $90 billion in debt.

They did it by cutting things thought sacred - like the Armed Forces.

It is probably never going to happen again. It will take a government that is absolutely secure in its power.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Just trust him. The budget will balance itself. And if it doesn’t who gives a shit about the children who will live in a debilitating economic environment.

Won't somebody please think of the children?
--Ned Flanders wife, the one who died, can't remember her first name.

Trudeau's an idiot, but I couldn't resist.
 

Angstrom

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Won't somebody please think of the children?
--Ned Flanders wife, the one who died, can't remember her first name.

Trudeau's an idiot, but I couldn't resist.

You’re absolutely right RCS. Fuk the kids, fuk them all. Why should i care. I don’t. Do you?

They paid down $90 billion in debt.

They did it by cutting things thought sacred - like the Armed Forces.

It is probably never going to happen again. It will take a government that is absolutely secure in its power.

They also downloaded the costs of administration to lower governments who simply downloaded it onto the user with administration fees. Well thats what Ontario did. Not sure how other provinces managed it.

THe Liberals ran 9 straight surpluses - handed off to Haprer and he ran 5 straight deficits.

If Harper had continued on the trajectory he inherited we would be out of debt by now.

Harper lowered the sale tax and it failed to stimulate growth.

If he hadn’t cut the sales tax he would have continued to fair well.

Here is my question. When is the last time Liberals lowered taxes?
 

Danbones

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Couldn't we just pull a hillary and sell the Russians some Bullonium? The extra dough would clear us all up at the bank.