Kremlin says Washington must prove hacking accusations or shut up

Danbones

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Kremlin says Washington must prove hacking accusations or shutup.

With all the fake news we've been subjected to,
time for the known liars to put up or shut up

"After Threatening Russia, Obama Heads to Hawaii for Vacation

It appears that the so-called cyber attack by the Russian government is not important enough for Obama to stay in Washington, D.C."
After Threatening Russia, Obama Heads to Hawaii for Vacation - Justin Holcomb

currently some 55 electors demand proof the russians hacked the election before electoral college vote and are refused

"Top US intelligence agency hints Electoral College briefing on Russian hacking won't happen anytime soon"
Electoral College briefing on Russia hacking rejected - Business Insider

"(ZeroHedge) — A group of retired senior intelligence officials, including the NSA whistleblower William Binney (former Technical Director, World Geopolitical & Military Analysis, NSA), have posted an open letter on consortiumnews.com that destroys the Obama administration’s “Russian hacking” narrative.


Within the letter, Binney argues that, thanks to the NSA’s “extensive domestic data-collection network,” any data removed remotely from Hillary Clinton or DNC servers would have passed over fiber networks and therefore would have been captured by the NSA who could have then analyzed packet data to determine the origination point and destination address of those packets. As Binney further notes, the only way the leaks could have avoided NSA detection is if they were never passed over fiber networks but rather downloaded to a thumb drive by someone with internal access to servers."
NSA Whistleblower Destroys Obama's Russia Narrative: "Inside Leak, Not Hacking" - Liberty Headlines

 
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davesmom

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Russia is the last one to be blamed for Hillary's loss so they'll hang on to it as long as possible.
It is sooooo ridiculous! The message they are sending to the world is, 'if the e-mails had not been hacked the public wouldn't have known about the underhanded things the Democrats were doing and Hillary would have won. Because the voters were SUCCESSFULLY FOOLED! So that would have been okay but letting the public know what was going on is NOT okay!'
That says it all about the Democrats and Hillary Clinton.
I guess a lot of folks would rather have a slimy sneaky liar for President than someone who tell it like it is.
That says a lot about the Dems supporters!


The bottom line should be, if the damaging content of the e-mails had not been written there would have been no harm, no foul!
 

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Trump prefers his own plane. Are you saying Russia hacked the 9/11 airplanes rather than the CIA???
 

MHz

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No I promoted they were heavily reinforced military planes and the angle they hit at was where the steel had been heated up so it offered little resistance.
 

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US Intel Vets Dispute Russia Hacking Claims

As the hysteria about Russia’s alleged interference in the U.S. election grows, a key mystery is why U.S. intelligence would rely on “circumstantial evidence” when it has the capability for hard evidence, say U.S. intelligence veterans


The evidence that should be there is absent; otherwise, it would surely be brought forward, since this could be done without any danger to sources and methods. Thus, we conclude that the emails were leaked by an insider – as was the case with Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. Such an insider could be anyone in a government department or agency with access to NSA databases, or perhaps someone within the DNC.


As for the comments to the media as to what the CIA believes, the reality is that CIA is almost totally dependent on NSA for ground truth in the communications arena. Thus, it remains something of a mystery why the media is being fed strange stories about hacking that have no basis in fact. In sum, given what we know of NSA’s existing capabilities, it beggars belief that NSA would be unable to identify anyone – Russian or not – attempting to interfere in a U.S. election by hacking.


US Intel Vets Dispute Russia Hacking Claims | Common Dreams | Breaking News & Views for the Progressive Community


https://www.rt.com/usa/372114-trump-russia-sanctions-hack/
 

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U.S. evicts Russians for spying, imposes sanctions after election hacks
U.S. evicts Russians for spying, imposes sanctions after election hacks | Reuters

Obama imposes new sanctions against North Korea in response to Sony hack
US president signs executive order leveling targeted sanctions against North Korean officials after cyber-attack on Sony Pictures
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...sanctions-north-korea-sony-hack-the-interview

New Research Blames Insiders, Not North Korea, for Sony Hack...
...Researchers from the firm Norse told Security Ledger, an independent security news website, that they believe that a group of six individuals orchestrated the hack, including at least one former employee who was laid off in company-wide restructuring in May.
Sony Hack: New Research Blames Insiders Not North Korea

Sony hacking: Barack Obama says he does not consider cyber attack an act of war
Sony hacking: Barack Obama says he does not consider cyber attack an act of war | The Independent

"All of us have to adapt to the possibility of cyber attacks"
Obama: Sony Response to Hack Sets Bad Precedent

this guy is a loon and must be evicted ASAP
his followers need to be educated
seriously
 

tay

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Every Country is hacking every Country and it will never cease.

Do I believe that Russians 'hacked' the election? Depends on what you mean by 'hacked'. Someone got into the emails but we will never know who. They did not turn voting machines over to Trump because as of 2012 all voting machines are 'offline'. They can only be hacked by someone manipulating the machine at the voting place.

Dems are just upset that someone produced the DNC/Hillary emails.


PS; No Chinese Diplomats sent home...

A new government review of what the Chinese hack of sensitive security clearance files of 21 million people means for national security is in — and some of the implications are quite grave.

Covert intelligence officers and their operations could be exposed and high-resolution fingerprints could be copied by criminals, the Congressional Research Service disclosed in an analysis of one of the most harmful cyber thefts in U.S. history.

www.washingtonpost.com/...
 

Danbones

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"The glory which is built upon a lie soon becomes a most unpleasant incumbrance. ... How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and how hard it is to undo that work again!" - Autobiographical dictation, 2 December 1906. Published in Autobiography of Mark Twain, Volume 2 (University of California Press, 2013)

say...
did anyone ever refute the accusations derived from those leaked emails?