How does your version of "science" explain it "better"? It certainly can't account for existence, the laws of logic, absolute truth, absolute morals...
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Now this is good. :lol:
How does your version of "science" explain it "better"? It certainly can't account for existence, the laws of logic, absolute truth, absolute morals...
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perhaps this one you will find less offensive and maybe jog that famous sense of humor you have.:lol:
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If that is an absolute truth, why isn't all truth absolute then?
Thoughts and opinions don't make anything exist because imaginationland isn't a real place. Therefore, Sherlock Holmes doesn't exist, even in the minds of people. Millions of gullible children don't just think of, but believe in Santa Claus. Does this make him exist? I've seen atheists actually use this as an example before.
I thought you were an atheist. No?
And if you remember, people of the Jewish faith that the importance placed on Yeshua ben Yusef is much exaggerated. If he indeed existed, he was no more a god than you or I according to them.With all respect I said! Dexter and I go way back bud, before you even knew what a forum was...
Josephus, wrote in Antiquities of the Jews, "And there arose about this time Jesus, a wise man, if indeed we should call him a man; for he was a doer of marvelous deeds, a teacher of men who receive the truth with pleasure". Also, Josephus documented how a man named Ananus brought before the Sanhedrin "a man named James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ, and certain others".
About 20 years later, Tacitus, a Roman historian, wrote a book surveying the history of Rome. In it he described how Nero (the Roman emperor) "punished with every refinement the notoriously depraved Christians (as they were popularly called)." He went on to write that "their originator, Christ, had been executed in Tiberius' reign by the governor of Judea, Pontius Pilatus". Even though Tacitus, Josephus, and other historians from the first and second centuries a.d. were not followers of Christ, they did have something to say about Him - and they even verified that Jesus was a real person. Who was so famous that He even attracted the attention of the Roman emperor himself!
REFERENCES
Antiquities of the Jews(Section 8 and 20)
(Annals 15:44)
If truth was absolute we would all agree on it??? Our feelings don't have ANYTHING to do with it!!! Truth is real just like existence. REALITY is happening and its beyond anyone's control. Either Cliffy went on the forum today or he didn't. There's no middle answer!
I've already proven the truth is absolute here and here(post#101).
In addition, read these and understand them:
Law of Identity
Law of non-contradiction
Law of the excluded middle
And as for your assertions that the bible if fully concocted, I'm going back to that thread to see if you ever posted any evidence for that claim. I highly suspect you didn't.
Because some are relative to individuals? I would have thought that was pretty clear.If that is an absolute truth, why isn't all truth absolute then?
Then no-one thinks of Sherlock Holmes? You're wrong. There are a lot of people in clubs that revolve around the character and his maker, Doyle. There is absolutely no discernable difference between whether Yeshua ben Yusif and Sherlock Holmes' existences. They were both said to have existed, both written about extensively, both performed astonishing feats, etc. yet there is no definitive proof that either existed outside the imagination.Thoughts and opinions don't make anything exist because imaginationland isn't a real place. Therefore, Sherlock Holmes doesn't exist, even in the minds of people.
Exactly my point. There's no definitive evidence that this Yeshua ben Yusif existed, let alone existed as a god, yet people believe in him to this day.Millions of gullible children don't just think of, but believe in Santa Claus. Does this make him exist?
Good for you.I've seen atheists actually use this as an example before.
No. My position that of all the gods that ever existed, none give a crap about humans or Earth. So they are completely irrelevant to us.I thought you were an atheist. No?
Whatta ya mean science can't explain religion?There are many things in science that are unexplainable as is in religion.
Way the way to go Cliffy , ...... "You are what you think you are"; but so few see and comprehendSo if you think you are fat, stupid, ugly, poor, rich, beautiful, smart, trim, you are. If you think that you don't deserve to be happy or rich, you won't be and vice versa.
People are always saying you are what you eat. But when I correct them and say you are what you think, their expression goes blank. To me it is fairly obvious and simple. What you put out into the world is what you get back.Way the way to go Cliffy , ...... "You are what you think you are"; but so few see and comprehend
,pity .
Whatta ya mean science can't explain religion?
Genes contribute to religious inclination - life - 16 March 2005 - New Scientist
Well Cliff, I'm not so sure about one part of your post. If I didn't think I deserved to be rich (or at the very least, well off), then I would not buy lottery tickets. I've been buying them since they started and now - you know the rest of the story!!! :lol: Maybe if I buy a ticket today I can be happy and rich in more than money.8Odoes that mean we may some day evolve/ascend into some god like creature
No, because we already are. The energy we are made of is the same energy that permeates the universe. We use it to create our personal reality. How? The universe/life reflects back at us precisely what we think and believe about life. So if you think you are fat, stupid, ugly, poor, rich, beautiful, smart, trim, you are. If you think that you don't deserve to be happy or rich, you won't be and vice versa.
Sorry to break it to you VanIsle, but buying lottery tickets is an admission of poverty. To be rich you have to believe, no, know that you are already rich.Well Cliff, I'm not so sure about one part of your post. If I didn't think I deserved to be rich (or at the very least, well off), then I would not buy lottery tickets. I've been buying them since they started and now - you know the rest of the story!!! :lol: Maybe if I buy a ticket today I can be happy and rich in more than money.8O
True if you spend a bundle on them (lotto). I feel pretty rich already. I have a home, husband, children and grandchildren. I also agree about the responsibility of winning a large lottery. I always wish that someone else in my family would win it and just give me what they want to and let me just be happy with that, never worrying about whether or not anyone feels I've been fair with my "distribution of funds". On the other side of the coin, if I won a big lottery, think of all you can do with it. I've never been wealthy and I've never hung out with wealthy people and I shudder to think how it would be if I did. I'd rather free all my family of debt if there was enough to do that, put money away for all the children in the family to go to university if they want to. After that, there is medical equipment required either for families or hospitals, there are hungry people and people who need a hand up and I hope I would be the kind of person who would do those things.Sorry to break it to you VanIsle, but buying lottery tickets is an admission of poverty. To be rich you have to believe, no, know that you are already rich.
Personally I don't want to be rich. It is too big a responsibility and I know myself enough to know that I would probably become a mindless consumer of crap I don't need.
True if you spend a bundle on them (lotto). I feel pretty rich already. I have a home, husband, children and grandchildren. I also agree about the responsibility of winning a large lottery. I always wish that someone else in my family would win it and just give me what they want to and let me just be happy with that, never worrying about whether or not anyone feels I've been fair with my "distribution of funds". On the other side of the coin, if I won a big lottery, think of all you can do with it. I've never been wealthy and I've never hung out with wealthy people and I shudder to think how it would be if I did. I'd rather free all my family of debt if there was enough to do that, put money away for all the children in the family to go to university if they want to. After that, there is medical equipment required either for families or hospitals, there are hungry people and people who need a hand up and I hope I would be the kind of person who would do those things.
Comprehesible English helps sometimes if you want to get your point across to other people.Way the way to go Cliffy , ...... "You are what you think you are"; but so few see and comprehend
,pity .
Science isn't a they. Scientists are they. But yes, scientists will continue to keep investigating stuff.They keep on trying.