Justin Trudeau slammed for backing marijuana legalization

hunboldt

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We're going back about 45 years here and I don't have any figures to quote but I do remember the women going ga ga over him at the time. (1968)

Just as well.


I wouldn't bet my first born. A week is a long time in politics, so they say. What has he actually shown us that qualifies him to be P.M.? Electing him as P.M. could be a huge mistake! -


You've asked that query about a dozen times, and every time you got a thoughtful answer- which you promptly forgot....:)
 

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Just as well.





You've asked that query about a dozen times, and every time you got a thoughtful answer- which you promptly forgot....:)

My Alzheimers must be acting up, I'll check back. Stay tuned!

Just as well.





You've asked that query about a dozen times, and every time you got a thoughtful answer- which you promptly forgot....:)

Nope, asked the question once, never got a defining answer! So far he's shown he can be polite, shake people's hands, smile and has mentioned legalizing pot. But if the electoral mentality accepts that then that's who we'll get for Prime Minister! I want to know his budgeting skills and his ability to follow a plan, his ability to recognize trivial requests and tell people to "f**K off", his ability to sell goods overseas for a fair dollar, his ability to work with other party leaders. Otherwise I may as well vote for the encyclopedia salesman! -:) P.S. you might want to go for an Alzheimers test.
 

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I agree with Trudeau just make it legal and be done with it. No special rules
no going around catering to special interests just get it done.
Actually Young Trudeau is positioning himself with a youth vote with a reason
to vote. I think there is a good chance he can beat Harper in fact we could see
the NDP remain official opposition and the Liberals govern. Harper and the
gang are becoming more unpopular and they are mired in one scandal after
another.
Even their budget control system has failed they have run around cutting this
and cutting that and screwing different segments of the population and still they
got it wrong. Their deficit is a billion ahead of last year in the new budget year.
Trudeau has this one right and he will slowly put forward other popular postions
 

JLM

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I agree with Trudeau just make it legal and be done with it. No special rules
no going around catering to special interests just get it done.
Actually Young Trudeau is positioning himself with a youth vote with a reason
to vote. I think there is a good chance he can beat Harper in fact we could see
the NDP remain official opposition and the Liberals govern. Harper and the
gang are becoming more unpopular and they are mired in one scandal after
another.
Even their budget control system has failed they have run around cutting this
and cutting that and screwing different segments of the population and still they
got it wrong. Their deficit is a billion ahead of last year in the new budget year.
Trudeau has this one right and he will slowly put forward other popular postions

Yeah, Harper has definitely got himself implicated with too many A$$holes, but out of 160 or so M.P.s half a dozen are bound to be A$$holes and I suppose to abide by Trudeau's fricken charter there is problem not a hell of lot you do with them until they actually break the criminal code. Personally I'd stick with Harper ...................for now anyway.
 

hunboldt

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My Alzheimers must be acting up, I'll check back. Stay tuned!



Nope, asked the question once, never got a defining answer! So far he's shown he can be polite, shake people's hands, smile and has mentioned legalizing pot. But if the electoral mentality accepts that then that's who we'll get for Prime Minister! I want to know his budgeting skills and his ability to follow a plan, his ability to recognize trivial requests and tell people to "f**K off", his ability to sell goods overseas for a fair dollar, his ability to work with other party leaders. Otherwise I may as well vote for the encyclopedia salesman! -:) P.S. you might want to go for an Alzheimers test.


Actually- I did - You may recall the words Swiss model- Portuguese model- and all the stats I quoted and linked to - to show that their are better models for addiction control than the failed USA one.

You were in that discussion....
 

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Even President Washington knew it!!!

Actually I don't have any problems with his views about legalizing Marijuana, but on a list of 100 important issues I would hope that one is closer to the bottom than the top.
 

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I remember everyone loving him at the time. History was not quite as kind since it is reality and not just an experience. I remember when his train passed through my town. We all went. Fuddle duddle was the catch phrase.

Although my view of him now is not quite as kind at least he was a character worth remembering unlike anyone who has followed him since. An intelligent man and charismatic.

And so we should remember him so that we never have a repeat of that disaster. Having just-in as PM would be on par with the US having two bouts of Bush ruining their country.

I agree with Trudeau just make it legal and be done with it. No special rules
no going around catering to special interests just get it done.
Actually Young Trudeau is positioning himself with a youth vote with a reason
to vote. I think there is a good chance he can beat Harper in fact we could see
the NDP remain official opposition and the Liberals govern. Harper and the
gang are becoming more unpopular and they are mired in one scandal after
another.
Even their budget control system has failed they have run around cutting this
and cutting that and screwing different segments of the population and still they
got it wrong. Their deficit is a billion ahead of last year in the new budget year.
Trudeau has this one right and he will slowly put forward other popular postions

I been hearing lefties claiming harper is becoming more unpopular for the last six years. Who got a majority? Oh yea it was Harper the one apparently no one will vote for.
 

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And so we should remember him so that we never have a repeat of that disaster. Having just-in as PM would be on par with the US having two bouts of Bush ruining their country.



I been hearing lefties claiming harper is becoming more unpopular for the last six years. Who got a majority? Oh yea it was Harper the one apparently no one will vote for.

That has happened three times in the recent past. Some people have a propensity for lying and pollsters seem to have a propensity for not getting at the truth.-:) I wonder if it has anything to do with the smart people keeping their mouths shut! -:)

I still remember the days of the most hated politician in Canada.................W.A.C. Bennett..................nobody ever admitted voting for him, but he got re elected 4 or 5 times.
 

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That has happened three times in the recent past. Some people have a propensity for lying and pollsters seem to have a propensity for not getting at the truth.-:) I wonder if it has anything to do with the smart people keeping their mouths shut! -:)

I still remember the days of the most hated politician in Canada.................W.A.C. Bennett..................nobody ever admitted voting for him, but he got re elected 4 or 5 times.

Polls are worded in such a manner so as to get the results the person paying for it wants.
 

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I still remember the days of the most hated politician in Canada.................W.A.C. Bennett..................nobody ever admitted voting for him, but he got re elected 4 or 5 times.

Oops I goofed, Bennett got Re-elected 6 times!

Polls are worded in such a manner so as to get the results the person paying for it wants.

That's one problem with belonging to a political party, they skin you for dues half of which end up funding crooked pollsters!
 

hunboldt

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I agree with Trudeau just make it legal and be done with it. No special rules
no going around catering to special interests just get it done.
Actually Young Trudeau is positioning himself with a youth vote with a reason
to vote. I think there is a good chance he can beat Harper in fact we could see
the NDP remain official opposition and the Liberals govern. Harper and the
gang are becoming more unpopular and they are mired in one scandal after
another.
Even their budget control system has failed they have run around cutting this
and cutting that and screwing different segments of the population and still they
got it wrong. Their deficit is a billion ahead of last year in the new budget year.
Trudeau has this one right and he will slowly put forward other popular postions


That is an extremely good point . The War on Drugs costs us over five billion a year in estimated direct costs, not to measure the lost productivity of people locked up for soft drug possession - or having blighted careers because of a possession felony.

Canada's Federal deficit is 49 billion..Canadian public debt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Canadians are waking up to the fact that the HARPER majority years have run the national debt out of control.
 

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I bet he's getting slammed mostly by BC pot growers. If Justin's ideas got into government, the pot growers would have to start paying taxes.

Although... there is of course always the issue of Canadian-style regulation. If I was PM I would wait until the grow-ops get it up to the point of maximum production with minimum disruption unto the neighborhood what-with the smell etc., then move in and call for taxes, in order to pay for the diplomatic costs of explaining to the US how if they don't want people to smoke pot, they should think about the wonder of the effect of having a freedom so un-Queenly that all left is a few super-rich outsourcing their taxes to Bermuda, leaving behind a demolished pot-smoking nation.

Except the problem is not pot. Scientific studies show pot smokers call in sick less, and the threat to the pot industry in Canada is that everyone in the US is getting into cheep meth.

As Canadian PM I would *not* facilitate meth production, unless it was to an enemy. You should see what jelly-heads that makes.
 

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Pot is the least of the problem of the pot growers. Pot growers have kids living in mold infested, fire trap residences.
 

hunboldt

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I bet he's getting slammed mostly by BC pot growers. If Justin's ideas got into government, the pot growers would have to start paying taxes.

Although... there is of course always the issue of Canadian-style regulation. If I was PM I would wait until the grow-ops get it up to the point of maximum production with minimum disruption unto the neighborhood what-with the smell etc., then move in and call for taxes, in order to pay for the diplomatic costs of explaining to the US how if they don't want people to smoke pot, they should think about the wonder of the effect of having a freedom so un-Queenly that all left is a few super-rich outsourcing their taxes to Bermuda, leaving behind a demolished pot-smoking nation.

Except the problem is not pot. Scientific studies show pot smokers call in sick less, and the threat to the pot industry in Canada is that everyone in the US is getting into cheep meth.

As Canadian PM I would *not* facilitate meth production, unless it was to an enemy. You should see what jelly-heads that makes.


Excellent point. law enforcement goes after 'weed' because its a easier bust. Boosts the Stats. Powdered drugs are a harder bust.
Meth labs are mobile and lethal.

Pot is the least of the problem of the pot growers. Pot growers have kids living in mold infested, fire trap residences.


You do realise that you are arguing AGAINST your previous argument? We don't make Bathtub gin, or have basement tobacco factories.
Grow ops exist because growing is illegal.

And no, I don't smoke.
Tobacco taxes:
http://www.smoke-free.ca/factsheets/pdf/totaltax.pdf

If you collect 20 % of Tobacco taxes form MJ that's 1.5 billion. Add that to the 50 %reduction in drug enforcement and you have 1`2% of the Deficit covered.
 
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I agree with Trudeau just make it legal and be done with it. No special rules
no going around catering to special interests just get it done.
Actually Young Trudeau is positioning himself with a youth vote with a reason
to vote. I think there is a good chance he can beat Harper in fact we could see
the NDP remain official opposition and the Liberals govern. Harper and the
gang are becoming more unpopular and they are mired in one scandal after
another.
Even their budget control system has failed they have run around cutting this
and cutting that and screwing different segments of the population and still they
got it wrong. Their deficit is a billion ahead of last year in the new budget year.
Trudeau has this one right and he will slowly put forward other popular postions

And pigs will fly and cats and dogs will marry and..............
 

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And pigs will fly and cats and dogs will marry and..............
Isn't that what anti gay marriage folks said would happen when gays were allowed to marry?

Oh, and everybody will become drug addicts if pot is legalized. Oh No! Justin must be the bane of civilization! Crucify him!
 

hunboldt

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Isn't that what anti gay marriage folks said would happen when gays were allowed to marry?

Oh, and everybody will become drug addicts if pot is legalized. Oh No! Justin must be the bane of civilization! Crucify him!

I have the uneasy feeling, Cliffy, that we are arguing against the re- incarnation of Mrs. Carrie A Nation..



Prohibition of Marijuana sales to adults SIMPLY HAS NOT WORKED. It's hugely expensive and diverts law enforcement form fighting real crimes.

It has lead to horrible personal tragedies. I personally know a former Phd. student who got a sentence for possession. He was 'slipped' horse tranquilizer in prison - finished his sentence in a coma- and the last time that I saw him- barely functions on welfare.

JLT, CDN Soldier, Taxslave, is that the fate you want for our youth?
 

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Nope, asked the question once, never got a defining answer! So far he's shown he can be polite, shake people's hands, smile and has mentioned legalizing pot. But if the electoral mentality accepts that then that's who we'll get for Prime Minister! I want to know his budgeting skills and his ability to follow a plan, his ability to recognize trivial requests and tell people to "f**K off", his ability to sell goods overseas for a fair dollar, his ability to work with other party leaders. Otherwise I may as well vote for the encyclopedia salesman! -:) P.S. you might want to go for an Alzheimers test.

The election is in a few years, not a few weeks. Plenty of time for that. By the time of the election the honeymoon period will be long over and the polls will have likely gone up and down for everyone a few times. If he isnt any good and wins - well, thats what happens with democracy. Its a popularity contest for a lot of people. Given what you say about politicians all the time is there any choice you would really be happy with?

I been hearing lefties claiming harper is becoming more unpopular for the last six years. Who got a majority? Oh yea it was Harper the one apparently no one will vote for.

With about 38% of of the ballots cast. I believe 38-40% of those eligible to vote didnt show up at all in 2011. I wouldnt lay that all on Harper but he got a lot less than a majority of the votes. More people went with none of the above than any of the actual options.