Judge William Adams beats daughter for using the internet

Kreskin

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I wouldn't count on that, what with it being Texas and all. Constitution doesn't seem as critical as popular opinion down there.
If a kid doesn't have the legal capacity to sign a contract how can they have the legal capacity to let a statute of limitations lapse?
 

karrie

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If a kid doesn't have the legal capacity to sign a contract how can they have the legal capacity to let a statute of limitations lapse?

Again, I agree, but, I wouldn't count on reason and constitutional rights being what is used to make laws in Texas.
 

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Again, I agree, but, I wouldn't count on reason and constitutional rights being what is used to make laws in Texas.

Now the Judaical Committee investigating this will be held to a very public scrutiny. If removed and disbarred for discreditable conduct. that would only be fitting.

The other could be a civil suit by the daughter.
 

VanIsle

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With all due respect, and politeness, are you seriously suggesting that people who engage in verbal slagging and foul language are akin to people who beat their teenagers with a leather belt?
You have not addressed me but I'll go on the assumption that it's me you are speaking to. You did notice my response was to Cliff. Not for a split second would I seriously (or otherwise) suggest that people who engage in verbal slagging and foul language are akin to people who beat anyone. Cliff was a little off the beaten path and I wandered there with him for a few moments. Thank you though for taking the time to clarify. It's just so much nicer and makes things so much easier to explain.

In a forum environment that people CHOOSE to be in no less.
You should have either waited for or asked for clarification.
 

Kreskin

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This family law judge has been recorded saying that he didn't do anything wrong and was simply "disciplining her" but he regrets it. I suspect most who hit their kids with objects think it's doing nothing wrong.
 

VanIsle

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Yep, corporal punishment should only be done as a last resort, too much of it and the kid just gets immune to it. If he/she does something really heinous and gets a good thrashing in an isolated instance he/she will remember it and what it was for. IF a kid gets smacked every time the parent gets frustrated, he/she won't remember the reason for any one of the smackings.
We are talking about children here. You don't hit children. You don't scream and yell at them either. If they do do something really heinous, it's likely the police will be the ones dealing with them - not a parent. It's not acceptable to hit a child. Big people do not hurt little people.
 

Kreskin

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I can't stress enough how valuable it was for us to attend a seminar/workshop conducted by a retired pediatrician named Dr Carl Ivey. That evening the lightbulb went off on just how ineffective it is to hit kids. It was the best $45 we ever spent. Not that we hit our kid before, but it gave us real tips on how to use appropriate ways to assert parental authority and power.

Dr Ivey is one of the most amazing people I've ever met.

Carl Ivey MD- Parenting Coach & Holistic Pediatrician - Parenting Philosophy
 

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Admittedly I didn't read every page of posts to this. Like almost everyone I'm beyond angry by what happened here. This wasn't a "spanking", this was abuse, plain and simple.

But what really got me was not only did the mother do squat, she also told her daughter to "take it like a woman"! WTF? Seriously? Obviously not only was she abused, but is currently abused, too, if this is her "motherly advice". I can see why the girl waited until she was older before posting about it.

I really, really hope this guy is held not just accountable but someone takes a belt to him, repeatedly, and uses it to hit his face, too, and his legs and everywhere else he obviously abused his daughter.
 

VanIsle

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I can't stress enough how valuable it was for us to attend a seminar/workshop conducted by a retired pediatrician named Dr Carl Ivey. That evening the lightbulb went off on just how ineffective it is to hit kids. It was the best $45 we ever spent. Not that we hit our kid before, but it gave us real tips on how to use appropriate ways to assert parental authority and power.

Dr Ivey is one of the most amazing people I've ever met.

Carl Ivey MD- Parenting Coach & Holistic Pediatrician - Parenting Philosophy
Thank you for this. I've only read some of it and I will read the rest. I will probably buy the book. It looks very informative. My grandchildren live one week with their Dad and one week with their mother. She is hardly home and could care less about what they are doing. When they get back to their Dad's, he has to be the disciplinarian so they understand there are rules. I've had to tell one of my grandsons that if he cannot be respectful, then it's better for him and for us if he doesn't come here. He wasn't told he couldn't come, just that it would be better if he didn't based on his current behaviour. He's still coming here and he comes through the door with hugs so I hope his choice is benefiting him also. I think this book could be helpful to a struggling father.
 

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We are talking about children here. You don't hit children. You don't scream and yell at them either. If they do do something really heinous, it's likely the police will be the ones dealing with them - not a parent. It's not acceptable to hit a child. Big people do not hurt little people.

Depends on the circumstances.
 

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Something to keep in mind when it comes to these "experts". Now you all can take this however you want. You can take it or leave it. I am not putting this out here to be argued with.

With 7 kids, 5 of them with varying degrees of ADD/ADHD. My wife and I have gone to more different parenting courses and seminars than I can remember. We have read every book out there on ADD/ADHD. We have dealt with child psychiatrists, child psychologists, and child "workers". My wife and I were told "the best way" by all of them, and the "best way" was different with almost all of them.


Example. In the early to mid 80's, "the best way" for ADD/ADHD kids was to change schools every 4 to 6 months as there was always a "honeymoon period" in a new environment where the child would do fairly well and his/her behavior was "controllable". By the early to mid 90's the "experts" changed their tune and were pushing "the best way" was through "structure" and "routine".

Just putting it out there.
 

JLM

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Something to keep in mind when it comes to these "experts". Now you all can take this however you want. You can take it or leave it. I am not putting this out here to be argued with.

With 7 kids, 5 of them with varying degrees of ADD/ADHD. My wife and I have gone to more different parenting courses and seminars than I can remember. We have read every book out there on ADD/ADHD. We have dealt with child psychiatrists, child psychologists, and child "workers". My wife and I were told "the best way" by all of them, and the "best way" was different with almost all of them.


Example. In the early to mid 80's, "the best way" for ADD/ADHD kids was to change schools every 4 to 6 months as there was always a "honeymoon period" in a new environment where the child would do fairly well and his/her behavior was "controllable". By the early to mid 90's the "experts" changed their tune and were pushing "the best way" was through "structure" and "routine".

Just putting it out there.

My two bits worth- Every kid is different and responds differently to different tactics. There's NO rules!
 

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A man who is supposed to be objective especially in the area of family law.
Can you imagine the people who may or may not have been ruled against
because of this monster? I can believe it though, I had some neighbours
once who believed they could beat their kids with belts and fists to make them
behave according to the will of the law, and their church.
The unfortunate thing for them was that I lived next door. I found this little girl
under my deck in early November, without a coat. She was seven and had
been there for a couple of hours punished with cold and no coat. The parents
wen out and expected her to be on their porch when they got home.
Instead my wife and I took her in made sure she had a hot bath and pj's and
she went to bed with our little daughter. When the parents came home they
found out that I had contacted family services. In the end they lost their kids.
That was back in 1974, and it all came back to me seeing this story.

As a foot note the little girl back then found my wife and I about a year ago and
we are going to reconnect with her early in the new year. It is funny how these
things we think are forgotten, come back when we see stories like this. The cops
need to investigate this case and where children are abused there should be no
statute of limitations.
 

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It is, 50 yrs after the death of the creator of the material, if I'm not mistaken. Most classic literature is available free online, for example.

Yea I'm thinking it should be something more like after 5 or 10 years of its creation, not death of copyright owner.
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But still with limitation on what you can do with it.
 
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Ocean Breeze

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My two bits worth- Every kid is different and responds differently to different tactics. There's NO rules!

I beg to differ. There ARE boundaries that cannot be crossed.....as without any rules , guidelines or principles of conduct......what kind of society are we living in and what are we teaching the young??


No matter what excuses he comes up with about why she released it now or why he did what he did...... there is NO RATIONAL reason for that kind of treatment of any human being......let alone young children , least of all, handicapped ones.

It is inexcusable.

Karma is a wonderful thing. The whole nation plus is seeing this person for what he really is.

His ex says she was brainwashed by the judge and that is why she participated in this atrocity..

so very tragic on so many levels.
 

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I beg to differ. There ARE boundaries that cannot be crossed.....as without any rules , guidelines or principles of conduct......what kind of society are we living in and what are we teaching the young??


No matter what excuses he comes up with about why she released it now or why he did what he did...... there is NO RATIONAL reason for that kind of treatment of any human being......let alone young children , least of all, handicapped ones.

It is inexcusable.

Karma is a wonderful thing. The whole nation plus is seeing this person for what he really is.

His ex says she was brainwashed by the judge and that is why she participated in this atrocity..

so very tragic on so many levels.

What would you differ about? If you think all kids can be raised by a single set of rules you have a lot of learning to do.
 

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Watching Nancy Grace get her teeth into this situation. That judge better look out. as she says: she is coming after him and lady justice is coming with her. This time, I am on her side.;-)

stay tuned. This could get volatile.;-)
 

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Watching Nancy Grace get her teeth into this situation. That judge better look out. as she says: she is coming after him and lady justice is coming with her. This time, I am on her side.;-)

stay tuned. This could get volatile.;-)
perhaps she could pummel him with her breasts.;)
 

Ocean Breeze

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What would you differ about? If you think all kids can be raised by a single set of rules you have a lot of learning to do.

I didn't say that. I disagree about there being no rules. There have to be some kind of boundaries, perimeters as to how far anyone can go when punishing kids. Of course each child is different/ unique. and probably responds in its own way ...but I am addressing the overview of general principles of what is acceptable conduct and what is not.

perhaps she could pummel him with her breasts.;)

LOL.......... (or have him as her dancing partner on Dancing with the Stars. That would fix him but good.)