Judge William Adams beats daughter for using the internet

VanIsle

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Something to keep in mind when it comes to these "experts". Now you all can take this however you want. You can take it or leave it. I am not putting this out here to be argued with.

With 7 kids, 5 of them with varying degrees of ADD/ADHD. My wife and I have gone to more different parenting courses and seminars than I can remember. We have read every book out there on ADD/ADHD. We have dealt with child psychiatrists, child psychologists, and child "workers". My wife and I were told "the best way" by all of them, and the "best way" was different with almost all of them.


Example. In the early to mid 80's, "the best way" for ADD/ADHD kids was to change schools every 4 to 6 months as there was always a "honeymoon period" in a new environment where the child would do fairly well and his/her behavior was "controllable". By the early to mid 90's the "experts" changed their tune and were pushing "the best way" was through "structure" and "routine".

Just putting it out there.
What you say is interesting. I would like to hear more at some time.

Depends on the circumstances.
No - I don't think it does. You just don't hit children.

I beg to differ. There ARE boundaries that cannot be crossed.....as without any rules , guidelines or principles of conduct......what kind of society are we living in and what are we teaching the young??


No matter what excuses he comes up with about why she released it now or why he did what he did...... there is NO RATIONAL reason for that kind of treatment of any human being......let alone young children , least of all, handicapped ones.

It is inexcusable.

Karma is a wonderful thing. The whole nation plus is seeing this person for what he really is.

His ex says she was brainwashed by the judge and that is why she participated in this atrocity..

so very tragic on so many levels.
I've known JLM for a lot of years now. I could be wrong but I'm pretty certain he is saying much the same as "there is no book of rules to follow" - he's not saying children should not have rules. JLM has a stronger outlook on how things in life should be than I do so him and I are a little back and forth on this. He probably thinks I'm too soft while I find that sometimes he is harsh. JLM believes in capital punishment for example and I am totally against it. We all have different beliefs but we can say it without insulting each other or without getting angry either. I'm sure that when he's on line tomorrow, he will say much the same.
 

JLM

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I didn't say that. I disagree about there being no rules. There have to be some kind of boundaries, perimeters as to how far anyone can go when punishing kids. Of course each child is different/ unique. and probably responds in its own way ...but I am addressing the overview of general principles of what is acceptable conduct and what is not.

We are talking about two different things, you are talking about rules of deportment, I'm talking about rules on how to discipline or correct unruly behaviour. (Side note to V.I. I'm only for capital punishment in a very small minority of cases, mostly for predators who destroy people who are at a disadvantage)
 

Kreskin

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If using the internet is unruly behavior why does the judge have an internet connection in his house? Wouldn't it be simpler to not have one than to beat someone with a belt?

One Dr Ivey's recommendations would be to (pre-wireless era) password protect the computer if having the internet was still important. Wouldn't that have been a responsible parenting approach, preferred over traumatically beating a child?
 

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But what really got me was not only did the mother do squat, she also told her daughter to "take it like a woman"! WTF? Seriously? Obviously not only was she abused, but is currently abused, too, if this is her "motherly advice". I can see why the girl waited until she was older before posting about it.

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And the mother is riding on the daughter's coat tail on this one. She is playing the role of the second victim. She was on the Today Show as well claiming she was brain washed by the husband.

What amazes me the most about this story is the fact that people are so incredibly surprised that a high powered, alpha personality, turned out to be an abusive control freak. What is so surprising about that?

That didn't surprise me one bit to find out he was a judge. He spends 8 (or less) hours a day in a courtroom ruling over people's lives and comes home to find his daughter acting like a daughter. Not "obedient" and humbled as people are required to be in front of him in a court room.

However long she waited to spring the trap, or why she waited, etc. is moot as far as I'm concerned . She got the bastard, and that's important.

I agree. I think it is even better that she waited because she was able to get set in her life on his dime. If she had sprung this on the world back then I do not think it would have had the desired effect and she would have a tough time going forward.
 

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While I strongly doubt if all judges are like this, there does seem to be a preponderance there (in a few instances) for debauchery and cruelty among them. This brings to mind the judge in Prince George a few years ago who was raping young prostitutes.
 

WLDB

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No, Can you point out where I even inferred that?

But I must say, I'd prefer welts, and years of therapy, as apposed to death thanks.

Thats a huge exaggeration. "You either take a beating or die".

Corporal punishment was used on me by both parents. Now I have next to no contact with my parents. Just looking at them fills me with anger. They did not save my life, hell they almost pushed me to ending it as a teenager. They know how I feel and they will not admit to having been wrong.
 

karrie

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My name is William A. Dudley. The statement which
follows has been reviewed and approved for circulation by
Judge William Adams.

The seven year old video presently circulating the
internet and now made the basis of international media
attention, showing two parents disciplining their 16 year
old daughter, who had been caught, by her own televised and
internet reported admissions, engaged in repeated criminal
activity, was posted for reasons other than as professed by
the publisher.

It is regrettable that Hillary Adams, a bright and
gifted person, would include in her post that she is or was
a disabled or a special needs child. As multiple media
appearances clearly demonstrate, Hillary Adams is
articulate, possesses a superior IQ, and is capable of
functioning as a productive adult in today’s complex
society. No one should take the affliction of cerebral
palsy lightly. Hillary’s parents did not. Hillary’s
condition was monitored as a child and her medical needs
met. However, neither should a perfectly capable adult try
to use an affliction as a device for media sympathy. It
should now be apparent to the world that “disabled” was
mislabeled.

In response to the internet post, the media has
appropriately attempted to understand why Hillary Adams
chose the present time to disseminate the video. To many,
her answers to those questions have been confusing and
hollow. As she has said by recent interview, she “hoarded”
the secret tape for future use, but has not explained, even
now, for what purpose. Very few people find palatable her
claim that it was to “help” her father.

Perhaps Hillary Adams should explain, if she felt she
was raised by a tyrannical father, a claim shared with no
one until five years after adulthood, why she insisted on
living with her father and not her mother from the time of
her parent’s divorce, until she moved out on her own.
Hillary Adams has been living on her own for some time, and
has been an adult for almost six years, so why post the
video in late 2011?

William Adams is of the opinion that Hillary Adams is
an extremely bright, highly functional, adult. The media
has described her as a piano prodigy, who has competed at
Carnegie Hall on multiple occasions. As one of Hillary’s
long term teachers noted in the press, Hillary, so close to
accomplishment, has of recent “inexplicably dropped out,
just two classes shy of completing her [college] studies.”
The video in question was recorded well before Hillary
graduated high school. If the public must know, just prior
to the You Tube upload, a concerned father shared with his
23 year old daughter that he was unwilling to continue to
work hard and be her primary source of financial support,
if she was going to simply “drop out”, and strive to
achieve no more in life than to work part time at a video
game store. Hillary warned her father if he reduced her
financial support, and took away her Mercedes automobile,
which her father had provided, he would live to regret it.
The post was then uploaded. The public may wonder if this
is the tyranny of which Hillary Adams speaks as her reason
to disseminate the video seven years after it was recorded,
and five years into adulthood? Is this the reason she
“hoarded” the video for seven years?

William Adams regrets the interruption and
inconvenience his daughter’s post has caused to the Aransas
County, Texas community. Judge Adams is confident that
when the dust settles and international media attention has
passed, and the work ahead, whether civil, criminal, or
administrative has taken it’s full course and has been
fully developed, with an opportunity for all sides to ask
and answer relevant questions, it will be concluded that
Hillary Adam’s actions in 2011 were misguided and
misleading.

Judge Adams regrets, if true, that his daughter
believes he is in need of healing from the family divorce.
Divorce is certainly traumatic, and takes a significant
toll on all, especially children. Judge Adams is of the
opinion that Hillary’s gesture is little more than a much
needed but hard to believe explanation of why she chose to
post the video. If this entire event was a plea for help
and healing, the methodology is certainly unorthodox.
Judge Adams, who among other reasons, still has a minor
daughter to consider, chooses to involve the media as
little as possible whilst personal family matters are
sorted through. The public may ponder what consideration
Hillary Adams gave her little sister before subjecting the
entire family to world-wide microscopic scrutiny, and
permanent consequences.

It is Judge Adams’ civic responsibility to respond to
whatever investigations may result from a revelation of the
disciplinary actions resorted to by his former wife and him
on the viral video. Those investigations will require
answers to many questions raised by the media and public
and for which no appropriate forum has been chosen to date.
He is confident the process will be managed in accordance
with the law. For the sake of his family, co-workers, and
Aransas County officials who must endure the additional
work and expense, he wishes that the process not be played
out daily on a national stage.

http://www.kristv.com/files/Judge-Adams-statement.pdf
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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If the public must know, just prior
to the You Tube upload, a concerned father shared with his
23 year old daughter that he was unwilling to continue to
work hard and be her primary source of financial support,
if she was going to simply “drop out”, and strive to
achieve no more in life than to work part time at a video
game store. Hillary warned her father if he reduced her
financial support, and took away her Mercedes automobile,
which her father had provided, he would live to regret it.
The post was then uploaded.

This part does sound like the gravy train stopped. It also sounds like she had no intention of releasing the tape except as a tool of blackmail and was not 'damaged' by the actions.

Assuming above can be verified as true that is.

Still doesn't justify him doing it in the first place and he certainly made his own bed by doing it in the first place.

In a way the 2 deserve each other. Just a shame they had to drag the rest of us into it.
 

Ocean Breeze

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The circumstances surrounding this situation are NOT an excuse to belt a child. or even another person.

It was not the only time it happened..... so the "crime" the dad describes is just one excuse to exercise his aggressive domination over her.

Regardless , what her motives were for posting it..... the fact remains.....it is Child ABUSE .

He could have just taken away her computer, cell phone and other "toys" & grounded her for a period of time. or some other non-violent measure of corrective action.
 

CDNBear

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Thats a huge exaggeration. "You either take a beating or die".
Did you follow that string at all?

You might want to.

Corporal punishment was used on me by both parents. Now I have next to no contact with my parents. Just looking at them fills me with anger. They did not save my life, hell they almost pushed me to ending it as a teenager. They know how I feel and they will not admit to having been wrong.
Corporal punishment was used on me by Grandparents that raised me, the Nuns who tought me, and the Masters in Anglican Reform school, who tried to correct me.

I have an issue with only one of the three.

I was crushed when my Grandfather died, he was my mentor, my hero and the man who made me a survivor.

Many of the Masters from juvy, are friends on my FaceBook.
 

EagleSmack

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My name is William A. Dudley. The statement which
follows has been reviewed and approved for circulation by
Judge William Adams.

You know what... I believe a lot of what this judge says is true. I believe she is not as disabled as the media has played this out to be. I have watched her in clips play piano, speak publically, etc. I believe that when he threatened to cut her off finacially she used this video as leverage. I believe this timing is no accident. It is revenge.

Basically what she did was outsmart her controlling and abusive father.

I've known a few physically abused kids, males, friends of mine that finally turned the table on an abusive father. A father that didn't think twice about using the belt or his fists when his son was smaller and weaker.

Until that day when the son was strong enough to fight back and win.

Tough sh*t Judge Adams... we reap what we sow. It is your turn to suffer.
 

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Did you follow that string at all?

You might want to.

Corporal punishment was used on me by Grandparents that raised me, the Nuns who tought me, and the Masters in Anglican Reform school, who tried to correct me.

I have an issue with only one of the three.

I was crushed when my Grandfather died, he was my mentor, my hero and the man who made me a survivor.

Many of the Masters from juvy, are friends on my FaceBook.


That may have worked out well for you but that does not mean it works on everyone. I could never have a "normal" relationship with anyone who has hit me. Basically, you hit me and you lose my respect.


As for the judges statement, assuming everything he said in it was true I see no problem with what the daughter is doing. If someone had beat me at that level I'd milk them for every penny they had.
 

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Corporal punishment does not necessarily mean swearing and beating with a leather belt.

I have no issues with corporal punishment, provided it's done in a calm and reasonable manner. This video is an example of that not happening.
 

shadowshiv

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He said that and he said it was a long time ago and that he said he was sorry.

Yeah, he was sorry all right. Sorry that there was a tape out there showing how much of a scumwad he is. Spanking and what he did are two totally different things. How many times do people apologize when they are caught doing something either embarrassing or bad, and how many times are they truly sorry?

They say that time heals all wounds. Perhaps time will allow the wounds to get covered in scar tissue, but wounds like this will never truly heal, they can only lessen. I think it doesn't matter how much time passed between the incident itself and the time she released the video. The fact of the matter is that he beat his daughter and he is an abuser. He should have to pay for that, and hopefully he will see some jail time because of it(and since it looks like the mother is not innocent in this, she should be punished as well). Maybe she waited until now to release the video because she was scared of what he would do to her(when she still lived at home) and it wasn't until now that she felt comfortable enough to release it?
 

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Judge May Return To Bench Despite Viral Video Of Him Beating His Daughter


Judge William Adams caused an international outcry last year after Hillary posted a Youtube video of him relentlessly beating her with a belt when she was 16 for using the Internet. He was temporarily suspended from the bench.
A Texas ethics panel publicly reprimanded Adams on Tuesday, but the committee doesn't actually have the authority to remove him from the bench, according to KRISTV.com.
Judge Adams can simply go to the Texas Supreme Court and ask to be put back on the bench.



Read more: Judge William Adams Reprimanded - Business Insider
 

Locutus

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You get green for looking this thread up before starting another. ;-)
 

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You get green for looking this thread up before starting another. ;-)

I second that.

In regards to him returning to the bench, it seems to me that if a person overreacts to such an innocent trespass as unauthorized use of household internet that person is not a good candidate for judging punishments befitting more serious trespasses.
 

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In light of recent threads and events perhaps Judge Adams should get a pass and the daughter should be arrested. She caused this. She knew by using the internet he would beat her. If she didn't use the internet this never would have happened.