Jesus names as evil those who think his Father would break heavenly law and have him

French Patriot

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*Sigh* You mean Jesus was saying it was not breaking a law, rather it was part of a plan, and we're bystanders.
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No. I am saying that it never happened because God would not break heavens law and that that law is exemplified on earth with the law of the sea that puts men first to die and not their children as scriptures show God doing.

The writers of this myth are showing God to be quite a prick and Jesus is saying he is not.

Regards
DL
 

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No. I am saying that it never happened because God would not break heavens law and that that law is exemplified on earth with the law of the sea that puts men first to die and not their children as scriptures show God doing.

The writers of this myth are showing God to be quite a prick and Jesus is saying he is not.

Regards
DL
That is almost using words with craftyness. 3 heavens = 3 laws Man is under the law that governs being that are alive after the 10 Commandments became law. Prior to that God judged the earth as being part of the 2nd heaven, from the moon to the outer limits of the universe is the 2nd heaven and it is covered by the law given in Re:21. God, the Holy Spirit are one family unit from the 3rd heaven. The setting in Hebrews 12 is the GWT and the location is Mount Sion. God and the Holy Spirit were the model for Adam and Eve as far as image and likeness, two different items rather than two point of one trait, likeness in looks, 20 fingers and toes and tow people yet called 'one flesh', the relationship of husband/wife is why they were made two. Christ is their child and in that place there is also a law that God and Christ would be under, tell no lies about the Holy Ghost (wife and mother from the 3rd heaven) They have one child, Adam and Eve will have many children and all of them are equal to each other.
The law below is given so that if a man could break it they would serve the punishment, if all sins done in the flesh are forgiven then the conditions apply to somebody else, that could only be beings from the reals of the other two places life exists the 2nd or 3rd heaven.

M't:12:31:
Wherefore I say unto you,
All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:
but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
M't:12:32:
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this world,
neither in the world to come.

In the carnal model that is the earth you will be less likely to be hurt for cursing out a man's children than you will be for cursing out a man's wife, no matter how little he loves her.
Angels could talk about Christ and not be sent to the lake over it, saying Eve would not die is calling the Holy Spirit a liar and for that they go to the lake without any mercy possible. When the new earth starts mankind is at that level of immortality but 100% sinless.
 

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No. I am saying that it never happened because God would not break heavens law and that that law is exemplified on earth with the law of the sea that puts men first to die and not their children as scriptures show God doing.

The writers of this myth are showing God to be quite a prick and Jesus is saying he is not.

Regards
DL
Of course it didn't happen. Jesus died of old age in Kashmir, India. You can visit his grave there.

Jesus in Kashmir,India(BBC Documentry)-3 - YouTube
 

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You have the patience of Job, Cliffy...
Is that a better path than being a child of the Beloved Disciple?

2Jo:1:1:
The elder unto the elect lady and her children,
whom I love in the truth;
and not I only,
but also all they that have known the truth;

Jesus would have headed for Rome, the nation referenced in these verses.

Da:8:9:
And out of one of them came forth a little horn,
which waxed exceeding great, toward the south,
and toward the east,
and toward the pleasant land.
Da:8:10:
And it waxed great,
even to the host of heaven;
and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground,
and stamped upon them.
Da:8:11:
Yea,
he magnified himself even to the prince of the host,
and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away,
and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
Da:8:12:
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression,
and it cast down the truth to the ground;
and it practised,
and prospered.

Jerusalem didn't change from when Stephen was killed until the Apostles left Jerusalem, as directed. With Jesus being the 'prince' in the verse below Rome would seem to be the first (and last) destination in that Rome lasted until about 400AD.

Ac:8:1:
And Saul was consenting unto his death.
And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem;
and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria,
except the apostles.

Lu:21:21:
Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains;
and let them which are in the midst of it depart out;
and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

Lu:21:24:
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword,
and shall be led away captive into all nations:
and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles,
until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Da:9:26:
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off,
but not for himself:
and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;
and the end thereof shall be with a flood,
and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

If the beloved disciple is the writer of Revelation, which she is, then that would have been in her oldest years. She and Jesus met when they were both 30 and Jesus's mom was related to Elizabeth so she should have been 30 when Jesus was born, even older is possible. 60 at the cross and passed away shortly after. The BD could have lived to be 120, just like Moses, so she died 90 years after the cross at the latest.

Add it altogether you end up with the biblical version being the better of two tales, in just this little but but overall also.

You have the patience of Job, Cliffy...

How do you know Job didn't ask Satan to kill him, ... more than once??

Job:2:5:
But put forth thine hand now,
and touch his bone and his flesh,
and he will curse thee to thy face.
Job:2:6:
And the LORD said unto Satan,
Behold,
he is in thine hand;
but save his life.

Re:9:5:
And to them it was given that they should not kill them,
but that they should be tormented five months:
and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion,
when he striketh a man.
Re:9:6:
And in those days shall men seek death,
and shall not find it;
and shall desire to die,
and death shall flee from them.
 

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Jesus wants you to stop smoking crack and making sh*t up to impress chicks.

Well that takes all the fun out of life. It's ok for him, makes water into wine, heals lepers and can walk on the oceans. He gets plenty of chicks with all that 'miracle' BS. I need crack & lies to get women! :lol:
 

petros

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For a guy who go to the desert for 40 days and comes back defeating death and dealing with the "Satan" within himself he did pretty good after killing a whack of bacteria and parasites while starving. No pork tape worms came out so now it's okay to eat pork

He who defeats his evils and lives a happy life will have one heck of a strong immune system. Happiness and laughter are indeed the best medicine even when you sometimes have to water down the wine to spread the party further.

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I think Jesus would really hate cell phones.
 

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Three more men with the patience of Job, even if at least one oft hem believes Job is a ' make up JOB".

Does Frenchie think in Inuit? He keeps referencing 'God's big *****'.
OOPs, - I meant " peenies" or pennies . ....
 

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You guys should keep up with the program. better than a cell and unlimited minutes. I'm thinking you will also be getting more calls than I will, ..... in the beginning at least.

Isa:65:24:
And it shall come to pass,
that before they call,
I will answer;
and while they are yet speaking,
I will hear.
 

French Patriot

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That is almost using words with craftyness. 3 heavens = 3 laws Man is under the law that governs being that are alive after the 10 Commandments became law. Prior to that God judged the earth as being part of the 2nd heaven, from the moon to the outer limits of the universe is the 2nd heaven and it is covered by the law given in Re:21. God, the Holy Spirit are one family unit from the 3rd heaven. The setting in Hebrews 12 is the GWT and the location is Mount Sion. God and the Holy Spirit were the model for Adam and Eve as far as image and likeness, two different items rather than two point of one trait, likeness in looks, 20 fingers and toes and tow people yet called 'one flesh', the relationship of husband/wife is why they were made two. Christ is their child and in that place there is also a law that God and Christ would be under, tell no lies about the Holy Ghost (wife and mother from the 3rd heaven) They have one child, Adam and Eve will have many children and all of them are equal to each other.
The law below is given so that if a man could break it they would serve the punishment, if all sins done in the flesh are forgiven then the conditions apply to somebody else, that could only be beings from the reals of the other two places life exists the 2nd or 3rd heaven.

M't:12:31:
Wherefore I say unto you,
All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men:
but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
M't:12:32:
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man,
it shall be forgiven him:
but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost,
it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in this world,
neither in the world to come.

In the carnal model that is the earth you will be less likely to be hurt for cursing out a man's children than you will be for cursing out a man's wife, no matter how little he loves her.
Angels could talk about Christ and not be sent to the lake over it, saying Eve would not die is calling the Holy Spirit a liar and for that they go to the lake without any mercy possible. When the new earth starts mankind is at that level of immortality but 100% sinless.

Let me get at your level of thought and I bet my 3 heavens and two hell against your second heaven.

Let me introduce you to a new word. Reality.

When you want to talk at that level then I am here for you.

Regards
DL

Of course it didn't happen. Jesus died of old age in Kashmir, India. You can visit his grave there.

Jesus in Kashmir,India(BBC Documentry)-3 - YouTube

That is the rumor for sure but this far up the time line I don't think we can be sure of anything except the fact that the miracle working Jesus likely did not live and was likely just a travelling Rabbi. Jesus has been associated with many of the older religions and was probably considered an archetype even back then. He was one of the----------

The Hero with a Thousand Faces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regards
DL
 
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When you want to talk at that level then I am here for you.

Regards
DL





Regards
DL
DL, you are butting into what had become a pleasant conversation.


bOLDED: unfortunately TRUE!!!
 

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Let me get at your level of thought and I bet my 3 heavens and two hell against your second heaven.

Let me introduce you to a new word. Reality.

When you want to talk at that level then I am here for you.

Regards
DL
I raise. You are aware that God stacks the deck in His favor, ... right?

Heb:12:22-23:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Re:21:23-27:
And the city had no need of the sun,
neither of the moon,
to shine in it:
for the glory of God did lighten it,
and the Lamb is the light thereof.
And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it:
and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day:
for there shall be no night there.
And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth,
neither whatsoever worketh abomination,
or maketh a lie:
but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Isa:65:17-19:
For,
behold,
I create new heavens and a new earth:
and the former shall not be remembered,
nor come into mind.
But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create:
for,
behold,
I create Jerusalem a rejoicing,
and her people a joy.
And I will rejoice in Jerusalem,
and joy in my people:
and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her,
nor the voice of crying.
 

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Why dont you idiots just post the whole bible in order instead of having your little war of selective quotes! :roll:
How dare those pesky Christians post Scripture in a Christian thread? See how much better that is when you put one of these ? at the end of a sentence that starts with a question?

Selective quotes is how you put something together that comes in little parts, .... intentionally. Like this verse promotes, lol.

Isa:28:9:
Whom shall he teach knowledge?
and whom shall he make to understand doctrine?
them that are weaned from the milk,
and drawn from the breasts.
Isa:28:10:
For precept must be upon precept,
precept upon precept;
line upon line,
line upon line;
here a little,
and there a little:

The posting is because somebody thought it would be a great idea to have 20 different copies of an already hard to understand book. Tell me you read the preface to the 1611KJV and didn't have a few 'whats??' after the first read. The important part is did you reread it until the questions were gone? I'm going to go out on a limb and guess 'no'.