It's Climate Change I tell'ya!! IT'S CLIMATE CHANGE!!

petros

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OK. Sole-source LNG it is!

So much more satisfying than the "let's do everything!" approach of Wyoming, which has the largest number of wind turbines on line and planned, and is the largest coal producer of the 50 states.
Does Wyoming use the power or sells it to Colorado to grow weed in greenhouse?
 

Ron in Regina

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OK. Sole-source LNG it is!

So much more satisfying than the "let's do everything!" approach of Wyoming, which has the largest number of wind turbines on line and planned, and is the largest coal producer of the 50 states.
Ugh…ok…BC already has Hydro power. Because it only covered 80% of their baseload this last year does not mean they’re gonna throw them out the window, drain the dams, light them on fire, etc….

BC also has lots (LOTS!!) of its own natural gas… so it’s not like it’s not a viable option.

BC is mountainous. Like really mountainous. People live in the valleys and on the coast through much of BC. Yes solar panels and windmills are things that exist, and yes, they can supplement things, but not for baseload.
 

petros

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Ugh…ok…BC already has Hydro power. Because it only covered 80% of their baseload this last year does not mean they’re gonna throw them out the window, drain the dams, light them on fire, etc….

BC also has lots (LOTS!!) of its own natural gas… so it’s not like it’s not a viable option.

BC is mountainous. Like really mountainous. People live in the valleys and on the coast through much of BC. Yes solar panels and windmills are things that exist, and yes, they can supplement things, but not for baseload.
Alternative energy souces
Another of BC Hydro's alternative energy sources is thermal generation. This involves burning fuel to produce hot gases or steam to drive gas or steam turbines that are connected to generators.

BC Hydro operates combustion turbine generating stations at both Prince Rupert and Fort Nelson. The 46 MW Prince Rupert Generating Station is primarily intended to provide short-term energy during transmission interruptions in this area; it is also permitted to operate 300 days a year using natural gas as the primary fuel source. Fort Nelson, a combined-cycle 73 MW plant, can be run only on natural gas with waste heat being captured to generate additional power via a steam turbine. It provides energy to the Fort Nelson area during transmission outages and is continuously providing energy to the system grid.

The Prince Rupert and Fort Nelson stations are registered with the environmental international standard, ISO 14001.
 

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At least 100 elephants die in drought-stricken Zimbabwe park
Author of the article:Associated Press
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Farai Mutsaka
Published Dec 19, 2023 • 2 minute read
In this photo supplied by IFAW, an elephant lies dead metres from a watering hole in Hwange National Park, Tuesday Dec. 5, 2023.
In this photo supplied by IFAW, an elephant lies dead metres from a watering hole in Hwange National Park, Tuesday Dec. 5, 2023. PHOTO BY PRIVILEGE MUSVANHIRI /IFAW via AP
HARARE, Zimbabwe — At least 100 elephants have died in Zimbabwe’s largest national park in recent weeks because of drought, their carcasses a grisly sign of what wildlife authorities and conservation groups say is the impact of climate change and the El Nino weather phenomenon.


Authorities warn that more could die as forecasts suggest a scarcity of rains and rising heat in parts of the southern African nation including Hwange National Park. The International Fund for Animal Welfare has described it as a crisis for elephants and other animals.


“El Nino is making an already dire situation worse,” said Tinashe Farawo, spokesman for the Zimbabwe National Parks and Wildlife Management Authority.

El Nino is a natural and recurring weather phenomenon that warms parts of the Pacific, affecting weather patterns around the world. While this year’s El Nino brought deadly floods to East Africa recently, it is expected to cause below-average rainfall across southern Africa.

That has already been felt in Zimbabwe, where the rainy season began weeks later than usual. While some rain has now fallen, the forecasts are generally for a dry, hot summer ahead.


Studies indicate that climate change may be making El Ninos stronger, leading to more extreme consequences.

Authorities fear a repeat of 2019, when more than 200 elephants in Hwange died in a severe drought.

“This phenomenon is recurring,” said Phillip Kuvawoga, a landscape program director at the International Fund for Animal Welfare, which raised the alarm for Hwange’s elephants in a report this month.

Parks agency spokesperson Farawo posted a video on social media site X, formerly Twitter, showing a young elephant struggling for its life after becoming stuck in mud in a water hole that had partly dried up in Hwange.

“The most affected elephants are the young, elderly and sick that can’t travel long distances to find water,” Farawo said. He said an average-sized elephant needs a daily water intake of about 200 litres (52 gallons) .


Park rangers remove the tusks from dead elephants where they can for safekeeping and so the carcasses don’t attract poachers.

Hwange is home to around 45,000 elephants along with more than 100 other mammal species and 400 bird species.

Zimbabwe’s rainy season once started reliably in October and ran through to March. It has become erratic in recent years and conservationists have noticed longer, more severe dry spells.

“Our region will have significantly less rainfall, so the dry spell could return soon because of El Nino,” said Trevor Lane, director of The Bhejane Trust, a conservation group which assists Zimbabwe’s parks agency.

He said his organization has been pumping 1.5 million litres of water into Hwange’s waterholes daily from over 50 boreholes it manages in partnership with the parks agency. The 14,500-square-kilometre (5,600-square-mile) park, which doesn’t have a major river flowing through it, has just over 100 solar-powered boreholes that pump water for the animals.

Saving elephants is not just for the animals’ sake, conservationists say. They are a key ally in fighting climate change through the ecosystem by dispersing vegetation over long distances through dung that contains plant seeds, enabling forests to spread, regenerate and flourish. Trees suck planet-warming carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere.

“They perform a far bigger role than humans in reforestation,” Lane said. “That is one of the reasons we fight to keep elephants alive.”
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Canada faces green Christmas as El Nino follows warm summer, head climatologist says
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Published Dec 21, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

If you don’t already have a white Christmas, the song is the only one you’re likely to get, says Environment Canada’s chief climatologist.


“If you don’t have snow now, you’re not going to get it,” said David Phillips. “Many areas that traditionally have a white Christmas, it’s going to be touch and go.”


That’s OK by Anna Lenz, who was sitting outside with a coffee Thursday along Edmonton’s Jasper Avenue with her two doggies in her lap.

“They’re loving it,” she laughed.

“We can go out and walk and come here for a coffee with only a vest on. That’s nice.”

The technical definition of a “white Christmas,” said Phillips, is two centimetres of snow that actually sticks around.

“That’s the Canadian standard. Millions of Canadians won’t have one.”

Calgary’s few scruffy patches of crust are awaiting their fate in the face of forecasts for well-above-freezing temperatures and warm chinook winds. Ottawa, where big dumps are common, lawns are covered with an icy powder that won’t do for sledding or snowballs — but at least sparkles nicely in the sunlight.


In Montreal, toboggan runs off Mount Royal are closed, and heavy rain and mild temperatures have closed skating rinks.

After two white Christmases in a row, Vancouver is almost certain to end its streak this year.

Cypress Mountain north of Vancouver said on social media platform X, formerly Twitter, that it had to close on Tuesday “due to inclement weather,” with high temperatures forecasted to reach 9 C on Friday and sunny weather expected throughout the weekend before rain returns on Christmas Day.

It’s the same everywhere you look.

From Prince Rupert, B.C., to Corner Brook, N.L., and from Inuvik in the Northwest Territories to Iqaluit in Nunavut, snow packs at the end of November were between 10 and 15 centimetres below average. Some places, such as southeastern B.C., are 50 centimetres short of average.


That means that southern Canada is almost without any appreciable snowpack at all.

Environment Canada’s snow map uses brown dots to show snowless stations and it’s brown from coast to coast. Edmonton, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Toronto, Montreal, Halifax — all brown dots.

Skiers are keeping their good skis in the closet. Online ski reports suggest 41 resorts across the country have opened an average of only one-third of their runs.

If you want snow, you have three choices — the Newfoundland coast along St. John’s, Quebec’s Saguenay region and a tiny pocket of the Rockies in deep southwest Alberta. All have 15 to 20 centimetres more than average — not epic, but enough to roll a snowman or slide down a hill.

“The snow hasn’t had a chance to collect,” said Phillips.


“It’s just been too warm and too dry. We’ve been setting all kinds of records for warm temperatures and that’s been the situation for all the summer and certainly into October and November.”

Phillips is already concerned about the effect of the dry weather on next year’s crops and forests.

“Moisture is very concerning on the Prairies,” he said.

“Last year’s forest fire conditions started because of winter conditions. It’s not looking good at a time when we should be recharging the soil moisture.”

Almost the entire country is rated “abnormally dry,” Environment Canada’s five-stage drought map indicates. Some places in southern Alberta are already “exceptional” — the top of the scale.

Parts of B.C. continue to see extreme drought conditions, with the Peace River and Fort Nelson regions deemed Level 5 — the highest level of drought activity with “adverse impacts almost certain,” the province says.


El Nino — a periodic weather system that brings warm weather to much of North America — is behind part of the strange weather. This year, the system began early and strongly, Phillips said. As well, Arctic air pushing down into southern latitudes hasn’t been as cold as normal.

But it’s all taking place in a changing climate that made 2023 the hottest summer around the globe in recorded history.

“El Ninos are different now,” said Phillips. “This one is taking place in the context of a warming world.”

Lenz knows it. She loves the unaccustomed warmth, but can feel its dark side.

“Global warming, you can see it happen. It’s worrying.”
 

Ron in Regina

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It’s been a bit of a crazy year out here on the prairies. We’ve had snow, and it melted, and then we had snow, and it melted, and then we had had snow, and it melted, and then we had snow, and it melted…& right now there’s not much snow, except on the north side of buildings in the shade. I don’t know what it’ll be like in a week. Maybe we will have snow and maybe we won’t this El Niño year…

I’m fairly sure it will rebound in an ugly way next year, but that’s just guesswork on my part.
 

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It’s been a bit of a crazy year out here on the prairies. We’ve had snow, and it melted, and then we had snow, and it melted, and then we had had snow, and it melted, and then we had snow, and it melted…& right now there’s not much snow, except on the north side of buildings in the shade. I don’t know what it’ll be like in a week. Maybe we will have snow and maybe we won’t this El Niño year…

I’m fairly sure it will rebound in an ugly way next year, but that’s just guesswork on my part.

Meanwhile, it was warm enough Christmas day for flies and mosquitoes here.

We should have had snow.

Lots of it.

We get less and less every year.

Don't tell me Climate Change isn't real, I see it happening right in my own back yard.

Literally.
 

Ron in Regina

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Meanwhile, it was warm enough Christmas day for flies and mosquitoes here.

We should have had snow.

Lots of it.

We get less and less every year.

Don't tell me Climate Change isn't real, I see it happening right in my own back yard.

Literally.
I’ve seen lots of weird cycles and I’m only in my mid-50’s so far. Cycles from wet to dry & wet to dry for example. About 15 years ago we had water laying around everywhere like I hadn’t seen in about 40 years….& I’m not old enough so far to add a third wet year like the previous two so far. Lakes where the old time

I also remember a year like this one snow wise about 35 years ago where in January & February on the gravel roads you’d leave 1/4 mile of dust hanging in the air from just flying down them at 60mph. This was in the late ‘80’s.

I remember successive consecutive hot-hot summers in the early to mid-80’s that we haven’t had like that since. We’ve had hot summer and then a cool summer, etc… but not like that, but I’m assuming that’ll cycle back again, etc….

You’re dealing with little snow and flies in the Maritimes right now (Dec 2023), and this was what they were dealing with in Egypt and Israel (in Dec 2013). A snowstorm hit the middle east on Friday creating a combination of chaos and beauty. Egypt got its first snow in over 100 years. Jerusalem (elevation 2,400 ft) received nearly 3 feet of snow shutting down all roads in and out of Jerusalem.
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This was the biggest snowstorm to hit Israel since 1953. Israeli soldiers spend the day rescuing people trapped in their cars from the snow and ice, etc…
 
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I googled “snow on the Sahara desert” thinking I would find something that’s one and 100 years…& it started filling in the blanks to try to narrow down which one I was looking for:
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So, not every year, and it seems to be getting more frequent the closer we get to the present, but I’m assuming that’s part of a cycle of a duration that we just need more observation to figure out a pattern…
 

Ron in Regina

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…Don't tell me Climate Change isn't real, I see it happening right in my own back yard.

Literally.
I’m not saying it’s not, nor that man doesn’t have some influence on it, but it is changing on a cyclical basis, and perhaps on cycles and interplaying cycles of the duration that we just haven’t been around long enough to recognize.

I remember hearing about agriculture in Greenland about 1000 years ago, and that was a steppingstone for the Norse to continue westward to Newfoundland. It didn’t carry on for 1000 years consecutively, but it came and went as the warm and cold cycles allowed.
 
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It’s been a bit of a crazy year out here on the prairies. We’ve had snow, and it melted, and then we had snow, and it melted, and then we had had snow, and it melted, and then we had snow, and it melted…& right now there’s not much snow, except on the north side of buildings in the shade. I don’t know what it’ll be like in a week. Maybe we will have snow and maybe we won’t this El Niño year…

I’m fairly sure it will rebound in an ugly way next year, but that’s just guesswork on my part.
Go back 2 Solar Maxes to 97/98. It was the same pattern. Nearly identical.
 

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Canada faces green Christmas as El Nino follows warm summer, head climatologist says
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Published Dec 21, 2023 • Last updated 1 day ago • 3 minute read

If you don’t already have a white Christmas, the song is the only one you’re likely to get, says Environment Canada’s chief climatologist.


“If you don’t have snow now, you’re not going to get it,” said David Phillips. “Many areas that traditionally have a white Christmas, it’s going to be touch and go.”


That’s OK by Anna Lenz, who was sitting outside with a coffee Thursday along Edmonton’s Jasper Avenue with her two doggies in her lap.

“They’re loving it,” she laughed.

“We can go out and walk and come here for a coffee with only a vest on. That’s nice.”

The technical definition of a “white Christmas,” said Phillips, is two centimetres of snow that actually sticks around.

“That’s the Canadian standard. Millions of Canadians won’t have one.”

Calgary’s few scruffy patches of crust are awaiting their fate in the face of forecasts for well-above-freezing temperatures and warm chinook winds. Ottawa, where big dumps are common, lawns are covered with an icy powder that won’t do for sledding or snowballs — but at least sparkles nicely in the sunlight.


In Montreal, toboggan runs off Mount Royal are closed, and heavy rain and mild temperatures have closed skating rinks.

After two white Christmases in a row, Vancouver is almost certain to end its streak this year.

Cypress Mountain north of Vancouver said on social media platform X, formerly Twitter, that it had to close on Tuesday “due to inclement weather,” with high temperatures forecasted to reach 9 C on Friday and sunny weather expected throughout the weekend before rain returns on Christmas Day.

It’s the same everywhere you look.

From Prince Rupert, B.C., to Corner Brook, N.L., and from Inuvik in the Northwest Territories to Iqaluit in Nunavut, snow packs at the end of November were between 10 and 15 centimetres below average. Some places, such as southeastern B.C., are 50 centimetres short of average.


That means that southern Canada is almost without any appreciable snowpack at all.

Environment Canada’s snow map uses brown dots to show snowless stations and it’s brown from coast to coast. Edmonton, Saskatoon, Winnipeg, Toronto, Montreal, Halifax — all brown dots.

Skiers are keeping their good skis in the closet. Online ski reports suggest 41 resorts across the country have opened an average of only one-third of their runs.

If you want snow, you have three choices — the Newfoundland coast along St. John’s, Quebec’s Saguenay region and a tiny pocket of the Rockies in deep southwest Alberta. All have 15 to 20 centimetres more than average — not epic, but enough to roll a snowman or slide down a hill.

“The snow hasn’t had a chance to collect,” said Phillips.


“It’s just been too warm and too dry. We’ve been setting all kinds of records for warm temperatures and that’s been the situation for all the summer and certainly into October and November.”

Phillips is already concerned about the effect of the dry weather on next year’s crops and forests.

“Moisture is very concerning on the Prairies,” he said.

“Last year’s forest fire conditions started because of winter conditions. It’s not looking good at a time when we should be recharging the soil moisture.”

Almost the entire country is rated “abnormally dry,” Environment Canada’s five-stage drought map indicates. Some places in southern Alberta are already “exceptional” — the top of the scale.

Parts of B.C. continue to see extreme drought conditions, with the Peace River and Fort Nelson regions deemed Level 5 — the highest level of drought activity with “adverse impacts almost certain,” the province says.


El Nino — a periodic weather system that brings warm weather to much of North America — is behind part of the strange weather. This year, the system began early and strongly, Phillips said. As well, Arctic air pushing down into southern latitudes hasn’t been as cold as normal.

But it’s all taking place in a changing climate that made 2023 the hottest summer around the globe in recorded history.

“El Ninos are different now,” said Phillips. “This one is taking place in the context of a warming world.”

Lenz knows it. She loves the unaccustomed warmth, but can feel its dark side.

“Global warming, you can see it happen. It’s worrying.”
Stupid woman should have been on the coast for the last month. We got lots of rain.
 

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Meanwhile, it was warm enough Christmas day for flies and mosquitoes here.

We should have had snow.

Lots of it.

We get less and less every year.

Don't tell me Climate Change isn't real, I see it happening right in my own back yard.

Literally.
Climate always changes and always has. Some years have lots of snow, other years not so much. It's cynical & there's no amount of money that will change it. Now, if you're talking about pollution, then absolutely, we need to try to reduce it as much as possible. There's a big difference between the two.