Israel's genocide of Palestine

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You really don't want to deal with the truth, do you??

The Palestinians are much better off under the Israelis than they were under Jordan or Egypt. That is the point.

As for the current unpleasantries, Israel has a right AND A RESPONSIBILITY to defend itself and its citizens. The IDF has been pounding Gaza for almost two weeks, destroying hundreds of targets, firing thousands of high explosive rounds at Hamas equipment and fighters.

The death toll is extremely low, if you take that into consideration. The IDF has done all it can to avoid civilian casualties, while still achieving their tactical ends. Ever hear of ANY other military calling in warnings?? Doing "knock on the roof"?? No.

In 1945, with technology now 70 years old, the USA killed 100,000 Japanese in a single night's raid on Tokyo.

In 1990, on the night of Feb. 26-27, US and Canadian air assets killed an estimated 10,000 Iraqi soldiers running from Kuwait City.

The IDF COULD kill tens of thousands each night. They do not. In fact, the IDF take unnecessary losses trying to AVOID Palestinian civilian casualties.

Do you REALLY think the IDF is committing genocide??

Aside from the big picture of Israel-Palestinian relations, do you understand now how ludicrous the accusation of genocide is??

Hamas are idiots. They could have had a ceasefire BEFORE the IDF discovered all the tunnels. Now there can be no ceasefire, as the tunnels must be destroyed. Hamas could have had a ceasefire, and enjoyed the eased rules on the import of construction materials brought in 2010. But now no construction materials will be allowed in, except under very strict Israeli control, because Hamas diverts them to build military installations to allow them to attack Israel......



Stop talking about Israel defending themselves when they're slaughtering civilians wholesale, you've seen the lopsided statistics. If they even suspect an area where one Hamas member is located they will bomb the **** out of it and the surrounding areas killing him and 100 civilians along with him. That's not defense. It's careless and bordering on ethnic cleansing.
That "knock on the roof" **** is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen. They don't even attempt to give an adequate amount of time for civilians to leave the building. It's giving the facade that they're looking out for civilians but really don't care.
HOW the hell you can believe they're trying to AVOID civilian casualties I have no clue, because there is no evidence at all that shows that, in fact all the evidence shows the exact opposite.
 

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This conflict has been ongoing since I was a kid and every time someone makes an attempt at peace it is thwarted. When all hell breaks loose the same people (including myself) come out on the same same sides and make the same arguments and nothing is really accomplished until a bunch of folks are dead and then, things calm down for awhile.

Nothing gets accomplished because no one is really listening to the other sides argument. So I've decided from this point on I am going to abstain from commenting on the Israeli -- Palestinian conflict.

Someday I hope that both sides see that they are not without blame and that the ritualistic cycle of killing is senseless.

You folks have fun.
 

lone wolf

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Supposed to wait till they hit you?

The guy next to you's close enough. I'm reasonable....

So far, those Hamas rockets have done well to strike earth. Best they've done is hold up air traffic at Tel Aviv.

If Hamas is supposed to be so backward and stupid, why can't Israel infiltrate? They seem do do well elsewhere in ferreting things out.

NOTE: to they who feel the need for label-makers, how did Israel get their IAI Nesher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia or atomic secrets?
 

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True story.....Years ago out moose hunting in an old logging strip, I hear a sound like two hornets going past my head and within a second....bang bang...from a hill behind me. I took a dive toward some bushes and fired a couple of quick shots in the general direction the shots came from....I gotta admit I aimed high......No more shooting came from the hill and I never went to check,...I just crawled to the next strip over and walked away....
I can guess that the Jews are aiming their missiles at the source that the rockets came from...The problem is that Hamas sets up their launchers in densely populated areas or schools ect....
Now the video version that is available today, if not available then it should be found and shown. People have been known to lie about smaller things.
 

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If they even suspect an area where one Hamas member is located they will bomb the **** out of it and the surrounding areas killing him and 100 civilians along with him..

Seriously, if this were true, there would be tens of thousands of dead in Gaza.

You are not thinking straight.
 

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Allow the people of Gaza to do something along the line of Russian drivers so they can show where they were at any point. Allow Hamas to wire up Gaza so downtown London's system is positively shoddy.
I'm sure the people of Gaza could develop some tracking software/hardware that shows where every product out on the new harbor. If Israel wants to reinforce the walls of their pen, Gentiles can wait till it crumbles with time.

Colpy use those excellent search skills of yours to come up with some points that Kiev is demanding of the 'rebels' in the 'breakaway location' that gives Kiev no other option than bombing the people. 5 or so points should be similar in both locations as the 'problems' are not totally dissimilar.

Seriously, if this were true, there would be tens of thousands of dead in Gaza.

You are not thinking straight.
The thinking straight part for Israel is missing when rebuilding what was knocked down is denied. Hospitals, factories, schools where the only class is choir and vocal art as crayons are a banned item. Beware the deadly candle, sorry crayon, powered missile. Would the color of the smoke match the wax color?
Build it even better and when the reject that also go another step that is clearly beyond the 'norm'. When they screw up and Israel is again forced to fuk the place up again it is done with better precision than Dresden so it is a humanitarian kill rather than the wanton destruction that Dresden was. The fact is was not bombed so it would attract the most people and the fat they were predestined to endure began to unfold for no other reason than to show what the tactic the winners would be using from now on.
 
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Colpy, Colpy, Colpy by Hamas rejecting the offer it means Israel will starts the bombs raining down on Gaza again. You know, the kind of stuff that gives you a war woodie.
Can't defend their current acts so you bring out the WWII lies. If the Jews could cause the world to boycott German manufactured goods (because they refused to pay the Rothschild bank the expense of both sides in WWI) then the world could probably do the same to Israel and the Rothschild financial network.


Meaning Israel shot them at herself. Israel would have to rise in honor just to become a low-life.

You will notice that the only smoke trail is from the Israel rocket.

Now that is serious denial.
 

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Now that is serious denial.
Why would I deny the iron dome is capable of intercepting missiles. I'm saying that in the photos available show that what is coming out of Gaza is leaving a smoke trail, like in the pic below. The pic posted could be a 'major malfunction' of a single rocket. You can rest assured all the gathered rocket parts will show that the 'increase from Gaza' was actually the remains of iron dome missiles launched during the exercise. The few 'wild weasels' are the hits that are reported as coming from Hamas. Most of the other is Israel shooting at phantoms and claiming the remains is the fabled 'threat fired by Gaza'.

I could even go with the projectile fired by 'the dome' doesn't leave a smoke trail, that alone would impress me. So far it's histry (hazard of being old is you were exposed to a lot of changes in the world over time so the 'next step' is somewhat predictable. That is only based on assuming somebody who as told 10 lies recently has a better than even chance that he will lie again in the near future. I'm going to question any photo, even the ones I come across that seem to prove my opinions have some facts someplace in the history.

A bullet hitting a bullet is something I would call money well spent. Developing a weapon that can be used to kill a (civilian) family by coming in through the kitchen window rather than the living-room window is about as insane as you can get to be in one lifetime. JMHO
What is the ratio now, last I saw it was 83 missis and 32 intercepts. Using gas for a propellent means the remaining fuel could be the main part of the explosion that accompanies a hit. I'm questioning the need for that type of hardware for what should be a 'local situation'. A bigger Wako doesn't help anybody.
 

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Really?? REALLY?? Are you really that stupid??

1970: 1 million Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza
2010: 4 million Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza.

No immigration. If the Jews are committing genocide on Palestinans, they are VERY bad at it.

Now, as for your comparison:

1933: 9 million Jews in Europe, 18 million world wide.
1945: 3 million Jews in Europe, 12 million worldwide.

Now THAT'S a genocide.

While we're at it:

According to the WHO, the average life expectancy at birth in the world is 70 years.
In the West Bank it is 75.69 years.
In Gaza, it is 74.64 years.
To compare, in Jordan it is 74.1 years, and in Egypt it is 73.45 years.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2102rank.html


Genocide?? I don't think so!!



Next time I suggest you check the facts before you surrender to the urge to indulge your Jew hatred with such offensive accusations.
Here we go, as soon a Jew is caught with his pants down he begins to moan about Jew hatred and for some it actually works. Get counselling for your paranoia.
 

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Here we go, as soon a Jew is caught with his pants down he begins to moan about Jew hatred and for some it actually works. Get counselling for your paranoia.

A Jew??

That'll come as a surprise to my Baptist parents, may they RIP.

Leave it to a psychotic Jew hater to totally ignore the facts listed and go jabbering off with some more Jew hate.

You really are a lowlife Nazi, aren't you?
 

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A Jew??

That'll come as a surprise to my Baptist parents, may they RIP.

Leave it to a psychotic Jew hater to totally ignore the facts listed and go jabbering off with some more Jew hate.

You really are a lowlife Nazi, aren't you?

You keep up the nasty work Colpy, cementing Jews and Israel together like they're the same thing. You are not a friend of the Jews. You are their worst enemy.
 

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Here we go, as soon a Jew is caught with his pants down he begins to moan about Jew hatred and for some it actually works. Get counselling for your paranoia.
Well, if I got caught with my pants down, I'd probably do what I could to divert attention from the situation myself. Leastways till I got my fly done up.
 

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Colpy seems to subscribe to the unwavering and unqualified support of Israel by Evangelicals.. which has been adopted as a political expediency by the Libetarian Right Wing.

In fact the name Israel has nothing to do with the Prophetic entity described in Scripture. When Israel was founded there was much debate about what the name should be. In a literal sense it should have been Zion, as a political homeland for the Jews.. but names like Judea were also considered.

Biblical Israel always referred to an eschatological (the theology of final things) and spiritual community, not a terrestrial commodity. Essentially it is the Church, that founded on the Rock of Peter. So, as with so many other things, the Evangelicals have it alll wrong. The existence of the State of Israel has nothing to do with the Second Coming or Armageddon.

And as as we can see from Isreal's conduct... there is nothing spiritual or transcendent in its tactics or its objectives.
 
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In fact the name Israel as Biblical prophesy had nothing to do with the Prophetic entity described in Scripture. When it was founded there was much debate about what the name should be. In a literal sense it should have been Zion, as a political homeland for the Jews.. but names like Judea were also considered.

Israel always referred to an eschatological (the theology of final things) and spiritual community. Essentially the Church, that founded on the Rock of Peter. So, as with so many other things, the Evangelicals have it alll wrong.

Israel is final perfection of the illuminated, illuminated evil in the case of the self professed Israelis.

Didn't read it, already know the answer. Genocide's permissible when you win. Nobody knows that better'n North Americans.

You left out central and south Americans who reveled in genocide to the same or even deeper level, see Red Gold a book about Brazils conquest. North Americans know very little, I know ,I live here. Without doubt the most ignorant empire ever shoveled together. That accounts for it's short shelf life I bet.
 

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Israel is final perfection of the illuminated, illuminated evil in the case of the self professed Israelis.



You left out central and south Americans who reveled in genocide to the same or even deeper level, see Red Gold a book about Brazils conquest. North Americans know very little, I know ,I live here. Without doubt the most ignorant empire ever shoveled together. That accounts for it's short shelf life I bet.
It's OK. Y'all good for a laugh.
 

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Israeli military announce they will bomb al-Shifa hospital in Gaza

“I’d like to say that Israel’s threats to bomb Gaza’s largest hospital have reached a new low, but in light of it’s relentless atrocities and civilian massacres over the last 25 days, it’s hardly unexpected.” Stated Joe Catron, U.S. International Solidarity Movement (ISM) activist now in al-Shifa hospital.

Israeli military announce they will bomb al-Shifa hospital in Gaza | Mondoweiss