Were Jews the prominent culture or the majority living in Palestine when they were given the land they now call Israel?
Israel - The Right to exist as a State?
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Something I've noticed since returning to CC is the clique of individuals who will argue to vilify Israel no matter what the question. Once the discussion gets to that point its no longer a discussion. So no its not a last ditch effort, just a good reason to disengage from the argument because it is not about the facts, it's about hating Jews.
Pointy headed discussions are a waste of time.
In my humble opinion.
Clearly you're a brilliant person, I must agree with your amazingly witty analysis. Anytime Israel is criticized it's nothing more then antisemitism. Because ISRAEL is perfect and it has done absolutely nothing wrong, EVER!
From your slanted perspective IMHO.
Fact, 33 Nations (a few ringleaders really) voted to steal somebodies land and set it up for a certain group. The 10 neighboring Nations that voted against it have been vilified ever since. The 33 Nations that endorsed UN 181 did nothing as every right granted the locals (Arabs) in that document has been ignored from day one of the signing.
Here are some more 'facts. Should the 400+ 'disappeared' Arab villages be examined one-by-one as each has it's own set of 'unique facts'.
(in part)
- 1955-1992:
- * Resolution 106: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid".
- * Resolution 111: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people".
- * Resolution 127: " . . . 'recommends' Israel suspends it's 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem".
- * Resolution 162: " . . . 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions".
- * Resolution 171: " . . . determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria".
- * Resolution 228: " . . . 'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control".
- * Resolution 237: " . . . 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees".
- * Resolution 248: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan".
- * Resolution 250: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem".
- * Resolution 251: " . . . 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250".
- * Resolution 252: " . . . 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital".
- * Resolution 256: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation".
- * Resolution 259: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation".
- * Resolution 262: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport".
- * Resolution 265: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan".
- * Resolution 267: " . . . 'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem".
- *Resolution 270: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon".
- * Resolution 271: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem".
- * Resolution 279: " . . . 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon".
- * Resolution 280: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon".
- * Resolution 285: " . . . 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon".
- * Resolution 298: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem".
- * Resolution 313: " . . . 'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon".
- * Resolution 316: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon".
- * Resolution 317: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon".
- * Resolution 332: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon".
- * Resolution 337: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty".
- * Resolution 347: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon".
- * Resolution 425: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
- * Resolution 427: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon.
- * Resolution 444: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces".
- * Resolution 446: " . . . 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious
- obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
- * Resolution 450: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon".
- * Resolution 452: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories".
- * Resolution 465: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member
- states not to assist Israel's settlements program".
- * Resolution 467: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon".
- * Resolution 468: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of
- two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return".
- * Resolution 469: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the
- council's order not to deport Palestinians".
- * Resolution 471: " . . . 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide
- by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
- * Resolution 476: " . . . 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are 'null and void'".
- * Resolution 478: " . . . 'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its
- claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'".
- * Resolution 484: " . . . 'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported
- Palestinian mayors".
- * Resolution 487: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's
- nuclear facility".
- * Resolution 497: " . . . 'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan
- Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith".
- * Resolution 498: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon".
- * Resolution 501: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops".
- * Resolution 509: " . . . 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon".
- * Resolution 515: " . . . 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and
- allow food supplies to be brought in".
- * Resolution 517: " . . . 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions
- and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
- * Resolution 518: " . . . 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon".
- * Resolution 520: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut".
- * Resolution 573: " . . . 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia
- in attack on PLO headquarters.
- * Resolution 587: " . . . 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw
- its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw".
- * Resolution 592: " . . . 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students
- at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops".
- * Resolution 605: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices
- denying the human rights of Palestinians.
- * Resolution 607: " . . . 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly
- requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
- * Resolution 608: " . . . 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians".
- * Resolution 636: " . . . 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
- * Resolution 641: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians.
- * Resolution 672: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians
- at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
- * Resolution 673: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United
- Nations.
- * Resolution 681: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of
- Palestinians.
- * Resolution 694: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and
- calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
- * Resolution 726: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians.
- * Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians
- and calls for there immediate return.
1993 to 1995 UNGA Res 50/21 - The Middle East Peace Process (Dec 12, 1995)
UNGA Res 50/22 - The Situation in the Middle East (Dec 12, 1995)
UNGA Res 49/35 - Assistance to Palestinian Refugees (Jan 30 1995) l
UNGA Res 49/36 - Human Rights of Palestinian Refugees (Jan 30 1995)
UNGA Res 49/62 - Question of Palestine (Feb 3 1995)
UNGA Res 49/78 - Nuclear Proliferation in Mideast (Jan 11 1995)
UNGA Res 49/87 - Situation in the Middle East (Feb 7 1995)
UNGA Res 49/88 - The Middle East Peace Process (Feb 7 1995)
UNGA Res 49/149- Palestinian Right- Self-Determination (Feb 7 1995)
UNGA Res 48/213 - Assistance to Palestinian Refugees (Mar 15, 1994)
UNGA Res 48/40 - UNRWA for Palestinian Refugees (Dec 13, 1993)
UNGA Res 48/41 - Human Rights in the Territories (Dec 10 1993)
UNGA Res 48/58 - The Middle East Peace Process (Dec 14 1993)
UNGA Res 48/59 - The Situation in the Middle East (Dec 14 1993)
UNGA Res 48/71 - Nuclear-Weapon-Free Zone in Mideast (Dec 16 1993)
UNGA Res 48/78 - Israeli Nuclear Armanent (Dec 16 1993)
UNGA Res 48/94 - Self-Determination & Independence (Dec 20 1993)
UNGA Res 48/124- Non-interference in Elections (Dec 20 1993)
UNGA Res 48/158- Question of Palestine (Dec 20 1993)
UNGA Res 48/212- Repercussions of Israeli Settlements (Dec 21 1993)
UN Resolutions against Israel
What other group of 'people' has such a list and where nothing has been done to them? Other than the US that is.
The list that the index below mentions is quite extensive.
alrighty comrades
Basic Statistics for United States Imperialism
Contents:
1—list of interventions for “regime change”
2—list of air warfare campaigns
3—list of client states
4—list of states held by debt-leverage imperialism
5—list of foreign base hosts
6—list of murder toll
7—list of unsavory rightists supported
8—list of perverted international bodies
9—list of interventions for opposing liberation
10—list of interventions pre-1941
11—list of covert operations
12—list of front organizations
13—list of low intensity conflicts
14—list of proxy wars
15—list of foreign policy doctrines
16—list of propaganda campaigns
That his opinion is humble? I'm not sure you have any qualifications to make that determination, or any other IMO
Definatly not in the majority, culturally they were far more advanced than the Palestinians. (by European standards) It was the Israeli's who turned relatively empty land into fertile farmland. Turned run down backward dirty cities into modern metropolis's.
Certainly we cannot compare the sophistication of the Palestinian residents of 1948 with those of today. (for various reasons) Ever wonder what it effect it would have had upon the world if Great Briton just upped and left the Mid-East in 1948. No Israel, no Palestinian state, just land open for surrounding countries to move in and claim. I don't think a Mid-East would exist eve close to what we have today, they would have destroyed each other with religious squabbling and a Jewish state would still have risen from the ashes. Why you ask, because the Jewish people are far more united than the various Muslim sects. All this speculation of course.
His opinion is well founded. By the way how did you survive?
I'd say your ass hat covers it just fine but I'm not going to stoop to insults and childish accusations.
Is the Bible Fact or Fiction? Archaeology's Discoveries - TIME
I have posted this before - And Yes the evidence is there.
Damm - Gotta think up a new one now.
So the majority is always right according to this?????????
The 33 Books that tell the Jews to get back to their real religion or the deal is off? Yeah I've read them.
Makes you wonder:
Was the majority right voting for Obama?
Is the Majority right to prefer FOX News?
That cultural advancement was under the direction of Britain for 20 years, that would explain the conditions of the cities, after all this is the same group that came up with Reservations as being the correct 'gratitude' for the land and all it's riches.
They were poor rural farming villages before that also. It now a big prison for two groups of people and for the best bang for the buck the Sinai could look like Vegas. Western interests and ways only benefit the top 10% of the ones who hold surplus cash.
The West had no such intentions as soon as the discovered the new world, kill the locals and rape the land was the order of the day. The proof is they made money on both events, when something goes wrong it costs them money, that hasn't happened in a very long time.
"Relatively empty" once the 400 villages and 650,000 thousand people went 'missing' from their rural homes, What did they farm?? A forest of pine that just went up in smoke.
That may be but I don't think it over-rides the opinion of the ones who live in and around the immediate area. I'll take that back as soon as Gaza gets to say what happens in Alberta, no matter what our (the locals) opinion is.
How did I survive? I happened to listen carefully to a few speeches of some US Presidents. JFK on secret societies is a good place to make your ears perk up. They shot him before that train of thought went very far. A few other Presidents also had some informative speeches, always as the farewell speech sop they wouldn't get shot. Some other knowledgeable men did the same. Perhaps that is why Alice was written instead of in a blunt speech. It kept him and his family alive. I've already posted all the vids I have on the subject.
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Fox and News is like Oil and Water. The Enquirer of TV news would be appropriate i would say.
Listen to Oreilly enough and i am sure you could be brainwashed. Same as Lou Dobbs. Not News - Yes i would Include that God of the Right Wing Wignuteroos - Glenn - I have never used the Tern Nazi - Beck -
But then again YJ, you swear by them as living idols that speak the truth.
Myself I also swear, but at them for their incitement of anything that walks, moves or talks.
They are the ememy of common decency, of tolerance, of the right to be different.
petros, since your post had absolutely nothing to do with the topic one must conclude that that you just described your future home, generously speaking.
Actually, more like the home you should have been in for the last half century.
Maybe you should invite goober to be your room-mate.