Israel practicing apartheid and colonialism

darkbeaver

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You have torn nothing apart on this issue, just keep waving the hanky. Israel has never broken a treaty with the U.S., who else is there?

Are you sure about that ironsides? Cuz I seem to remember reading a great big long list of broken undertakings and treaties it (Israhell) had made with qullible old uncle sham. I think I'll look for it. That was before the USA became Israeli property though.
 

CDNBear

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Jews have been treated badly historically, especially in Europe. But in Palestine, they were accepted and treated the same as any other religious minority. Relative to Europe, Palestine could be considered a safe haven for Jews. Compared to Europe or most other Muslim countries, Jews were welcome and accepted in Palestine and the rest of the Ottoman empire. Palestinian Muslims have a long history of peaceful co-existance with all religious minorities including Jews. Before Zionism, Jewish, Muslim and Christian Palestinians more or less lived together peacefully.
History disagrees with you.

The current trouble in Palestine began with Zionism or are you going to argue that Jews living in Palestine during the 1930's were treated worse than Jews in Poland or Germany? Anti-semiticism was rampant in Europe, not Palestine. Yes a few people and leaders had anti-semitic tendencies, but in general the average Palestinian was known for their hospitality for the guests regardless of religion.
On a myopic scale, you would be correct. On the political front and a broader view, history again disagrees with you.

Organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood formed after long after Zionism. They are a consequence of Europe colonization or meddling in Muslim affairs throughout the middle east. They became a factor in Palestine during the British mandate and were a reaction to growing Jewish immigration and European influence. A small minority of Palestinians turned to the brotherhood when they became concerned that Jews fleeing Europe might try to seize control of Palestine with the help of the Brits. Hamas is an offshoot of this movement.
And this somehow negates it's brutality? You seem to be saying "He started it".

But in general, it no more accurate to claim that all Palestinians are anti-semitic than it is to claim all white Armericans used to own slaves. The reality is more complex.
Hence why I would never make such a claim.

But if European anti-semiticism justifies creating a Jewish homeland, then it should have been at the expense of Bavarians, where Jews were treated the worst, not Palestine, where Jews were well treated.
Although I would otherwise agree, they already had one. As the descendant of a displaced people, I understand Isreals rights in spades.

Please do so it can be torn to pieces like the rest of your propaganda crap.
Here's a link to one of several threads you've particiapted in. In which you had ample time to have "torn to pieces" my facts.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/wreck-beach/84074-you-nazi-if.html

You didn't. In fact what you did do, was nothing but sling out insults with not so much as a single piece of contravening evidence.

In fact, that's all you do. Even when you asked me for proof that your story was bogus, in the thermite thread, on the resignation of the editor, you failed to acknowledge it, let alone concede in defeat.

So please DB, spare me your insanity.
 

darkbeaver

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Although I would otherwise agree, they already had one. As the descendant of a displaced people, I understand Isreals rights in spades.
BEAR

So understanding the Israelis displacement and having deep spiritual connection to them you will no doubt want to join them when they return to Central Asia after the Israeli defeat by the rest of the world and the return of every living and dead Palestinian to their homes in Palestine. It is the inevitable result of the breaking of natural law bear, when you **** in your nest you have to find another. Even bears don't do that.
 

CDNBear

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So understanding the Israelis displacement and having deep spiritual connection to them you will no doubt want to join them when they return to Central Asia after the Israeli defeat by the rest of the world and the return of every living and dead Palestinian to their homes in Palestine. It is the inevitable result of the breaking of natural law bear, when you **** in your nest you have to find another. Even bears don't do that.

In fact what you did do, was nothing but sling out insults with not so much as a single piece of contravening evidence.

In fact, that's all you do. Even when you asked me for proof that your story was bogus, in the thermite thread, on the resignation of the editor, you failed to acknowledge it, let alone concede in defeat.

So please DB, spare me your insanity.

I rest my case.
 

CDNBear

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Your case may be rested but it's certainly not won. The jury will decide about you and about Israel. I take it you don't want to return to Central Asia with the Israelis.

You didn't. In fact what you did do, was nothing but sling out insults with not so much as a single piece of contravening evidence.

In fact, that's all you do. Even when you asked me for proof that your story was bogus, in the thermite thread, on the resignation of the editor, you failed to acknowledge it, let alone concede in defeat.

So please DB, spare me your insanity.

Again, I rest my case.
 

bluedog

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Israel is a nation of lying murdering genocidal maniacs.
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The same as all the ARAB heritages, it won't change. It is Not our plan, but His.
Pick a side, they are BOTH the same, persecution, injury, devastation, civilian, military- at the hands of each, on bloody hands of each.
Generations for generations... even though the world will call out peace, peace... nope, war... until His return.

It can't and won't change. :fish:
 

bluedog

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But in general, it no more accurate to claim that all Palestinians are anti-semitic than it is to claim all white Americans used to own slaves. The reality is more complex.
Earth as One
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Actually it is not, that much more complex in my view. There are Angry Jews reliving their history, there are Jews that want peace. There are Angry Arabs that are reliving their history, there are Arabs that want peace. It is all relative as is the fluctuating power that keeps the hatred of any peace alive.

Humans are human. Sinners will sin. Consequences will be consequences.:fish:
 

In Between Man

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Israel is a nation of lying murdering genocidal maniacs.

If I state the same about Palestine you'd be all up in arms I'm sure, so why don't you try being more serious. The Jews and the Palestinians are both human. They both have good and bad, they both deserve basic human respect.

To say the the nation of Israel is populated with nothing but lying murdering genocidal maniacs is a huge stretch. Its like saying "America is responsible for the problems of the world." If you make such statements, your only fooling yourself into thinking you have justification for your prejudices. Not to mention you only hurt your own cause because your not offering insight into the topic, you're just spewing hate.
 

darkbeaver

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If I state the same about Palestine you'd be all up in arms I'm sure, so why don't you try being more serious. The Jews and the Palestinians are both human. They both have good and bad, they both deserve basic human respect.

To say the the nation of Israel is populated with nothing but lying murdering genocidal maniacs is a huge stretch. Its like saying "America is responsible for the problems of the world." If you make such statements, your only fooling yourself into thinking you have justification for your prejudices. Not to mention you only hurt your own cause because your not offering insight into the topic, you're just spewing hate.

They both deserve the same size military.
 

darkbeaver

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Bulldozed homes and burning olive orchards and little children with bullet holes forced removal and wholesale theft of the property of others have set the conditions for peace. That is all Palestinians and the world can with reason expect from Israeli talk of rights to exist.
We have rights to hate the hateful, we have laws to hate injustice, we have permission to hold in contempt those who have contempt for their own word.
 

darkbeaver

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"Full spectrum domination" came from their think tanks. They will be obliged by their own despicable actions to ensure that this happens or they will be crushed. Every nation knows them intimately by now, every nation is warned, no nation will trust them, everyone sees the only possible outcome to the whole bloody dirty exercise. Have a nice day.
 

darkbeaver

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The same as all the ARAB heritages, it won't change. It is Not our plan, but His.
Pick a side, they are BOTH the same, persecution, injury, devastation, civilian, military- at the hands of each, on bloody hands of each.
Generations for generations... even though the world will call out peace, peace... nope, war... until His return.

It can't and won't change. :fish:

The Palestinian heritage and the Israeli heritage are separated by half a continent. The war is less than seventy years old two generations maybe three, you are referring to a mythical condition contained in a mythical history of a mythical Israeli people.