Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

[Colpy]

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documents on interrogation techniques released this week in Washington was an internal CIA report that, as AP says, describes “two instances in 2007 in which the CIA was allowed to exceed the guidelines set by Bush administration lawyers allowing prisoners to be kept awake for up to four days”.
It specifies that “CIA operatives used severe sleep deprivation tactics against a terror detainee in late 2007, keeping him awake for six straight days with permission from government lawyers”.
According to the AP story, “The first episode occurred in August 2007, when interrogators were given permission from the Office of Legal Counsel to keep an unidentified detainee awake for five days, a U.S. government official confirmed … According to the documents, the sleep-deprived prisoner was kept awake by being forced to stand with his arms chained above heart level. He wore diapers, allowing interrogators to keep him chained continuously without bathroom breaks. [[One has to ask who, if anyone, changed his diapers? Wearing soiled diapers for even one full causes serious skin burns from the ammonia in urine ...]] The second incident occurred in November 2007. After again asking permission from Justice lawyers to keep a detainee awake an extra day, interrogators pressed to extend the treatment for another 24 hours, depriving the prisoner of sleep for six straight days. It is unclear from the documents whether the two incidents involved the same detainee. CIA spokesman George Little would not provide the identity of the prisoner referred to in the document … According to the documents, the prisoner was monitored by closed-circuit television. If he started to fall asleep, the chains jerking on his arms would wake him up. If a prisoner’s leg swelled — a condition known as edema, which can cause blood clots and stroke — interrogators could chain him to a low, unbalanced stool or on the floor with arms outstretched“.

The AP report added that “Sleep deprivation beyond 48 hours is known to produce hallucinations. It can reduce resistance to pain, and it makes people suggestible. The State Department regularly lists sleep deprivation as a form of torture in its annual report on human rights abuses … Andrea Northwood, director of client services at the Center for Victims of Torture in Minneapolis, said her organization considers 96 hours of sleep deprivation to be torture. ‘It’s a primary method that is used around the world because it is effective in breaking people. It is effective because it induces severe harm’, she said. ‘It causes people to feel absolutely crazy’. She said that in many cases there are lingering effects. ‘My experience in working with survivors, they are still struggling with questions whether they are normal, whether they should have acted as they did when they talked under this kind of pressure’, she said”.
The AP story says that this occurred more than a year “after the Bush Administration abandoned its harshest interrogation methods”, and despite a ruling from the Supreme Court that the prisoners were entitled to the protetctions of the Geneva Conventions”. It added that “even as the Bush administration was scaling back its use of severe interrogation techniques, the CIA was still pushing the boundaries of what the administration’s own legal counsel considered acceptable treatment”.
Now, AP says, “The Obama administration has since rescinded authority for any of the severe methods. Under the rules of the U.S. Army Field Manual, which now governs all interrogations, prisoners must be allowed to sleep at least four hours during every 24-hour period”.

I would agree that six days awake would be torture....in fact, it borders on murder, as humans will die without sleep over that extended period of time.

There is no excuse to keep anyone awake for 4 days, and the positioning done by the CIA in the case you cite is obviously torture.

And there is NO excuse for that.......

But as for 4 hours out of 24.......good Lord.....I've gone days with less sleep than that! Seriously...not fun, but I wouldn't say I was tortured.........

Let's see what was actually done to these guys.

 

[MHz]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

Oh well, Israel does not have capital punishment. It is a civilized country.

Giving their 'hit-squads' passports from other countries does not 'dissolve' their true roots, Israel. The ones they want dead never make it to the courthouse.

 

[Colpy]

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Giving their 'hit-squads' passports from other countries does not 'dissolve' their true roots, Israel. The ones they want dead never make it to the courthouse.

There is a major difference between the judicial trial and subsequent penalty dealt to an Israeli citizen (Arab or Jew) and an act of war against a foreign enemy.

 

[clutch]

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Israel DID NOT sell nukes to apartheit South Africa..........South Africa HAS no nukes....case closed. Even the dude selling the book never accused Israel of actually selling nukes.......he only said the South Africans thought (mistakenly, I believe) that the Israelis would sell them nukes.

YES, Israel did OFFER to sell Apartheid South Africa, a racist regime, nukes. Documents have been found , it's not disputable. Israel had covered it up for a while but it's out now.

Torture is illegal in Israel. Sleep deprivation is NOT
torture......

You're officially whacko my friend. But this is expected from someone who supports Israel.

Read some of the posts on this thread, the drooling, illogical, psychotic Jew hatred of at least four posters on this thread alone.......and it becomes very obvious why Jewish Israel is paranoid, and why Israel is necessary.

No, not everyone against Israel is a jew-hater like you ignorantly claim. You realize there are many jews against Israel existing?

Personally, I think any Israeli citizen caught spying for Hezbollah should be tried for treason, and if found guilty dragged into the street and shot.....

Oh well, Israel does not have capital punishment. It is a civilized country.

you say you want all spies dragged on to the street and shot, then you say israel is a civilized country. i don't think you can have it both ways.

 

[Colpy]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

YES, Israel did OFFER to sell Apartheid South Africa, a racist regime, nukes. Documents have been found , it's not disputable. Israel had covered it up for a while but it's out now.

You're officially whacko my friend. But this is expected from someone who supports Israel.

No, not everyone against Israel is a jew-hater like you ignorantly claim. You realize there are many jews against Israel existing?

you say you want all spies dragged on to the street and shot, then you say israel is a civilized country. i don't think you can have it both ways.

No, Israel did NOT offer to sell SA nukes.....Please go back to post number 84 on this thread, where there is a link to an interview with the author of the book that started this tempest......the ONLY documents in existence dealing with the sale of Jericho missiles are South African.....and those missiles are nuclear or non-nuclear capable. The South Africans assumed the Israelis would sell them nukes to use on the missile..... stupid on their part.......Now THINK!!! This happened in 1975. The regime lasted 15 more years, during which they were in close contact with the Israelis........Guess what??? The South Africans DO NOT HAVE, and NEVER HAVE HAD nuclear weapons. That kinda settles the matter, doesn't it????????

The guy in question hit upon a magical book-seller, but it is all baseless conjecture.

Now, I did a bit of a flip-flop on the sleep deprivation.........it is a matter of degree. Keeping a guy awake for 4 or 6 days is torture, I would not deny that. Keeping him awake for 24 or 30 hours is not. Letting him sleep only 2 or three hours at a time is not. Damn, I've gone 36 hours without sleep, then slept 4 and gone back to work...........and I don't stick bamboo slits under my finger nails for fun.

I have never accused you of being a Jew hater.....but I suggest you read MHz, enassir, Petros, and Jackie Cox. Pure, unadulterated hatred. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion revisited. These folks would either participate in a new holocaust, or stand by and shake their heads at how the Jews asked for it........they are the reason there needs to be a Jewish state.

I have no use for traitors........but I was simply making the point that Israel does not execute..........unlike all her enemies.

 

[darkbeaver]

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And the dumbass Christians will be left holding the bill.

I don't see a problem with that, in fact the dumbass christians should be paying war reparations for the crusades. I refuse to any longer tolerate discussion based on the vaporous religious differentiations constantly injected into the debate about war crimes clearly designed and being executed under the wing of the fiction of religious persecutions of the past or present. Perhaps by holding the bill they will be driven away from the human breadbasket as well. A pox on the whole of organized religion as we have known it and not enjoyed it.

No, Israel did NOT offer to sell SA nukes.....Please go back to post number 84 on this thread, where there is a link to an interview with the author of the book that started this tempest......the ONLY documents in existence dealing with the sale of Jericho missiles are South African.....and those missiles are nuclear or non-nuclear capable. The South Africans assumed the Israelis would sell them nukes to use on the missile..... stupid on their part.......Now THINK!!! This happened in 1975. The regime lasted 15 more years, during which they were in close contact with the Israelis........Guess what??? The South Africans DO NOT HAVE, and NEVER HAVE HAD nuclear weapons. That kinda settles the matter, doesn't it????????

The guy in question hit upon a magical book-seller, but it is all baseless conjecture.

Now, I did a bit of a flip-flop on the sleep deprivation.........it is a matter of degree. Keeping a guy awake for 4 or 6 days is torture, I would not deny that. Keeping him awake for 24 or 30 hours is not. Letting him sleep only 2 or three hours at a time is not. Damn, I've gone 36 hours without sleep, then slept 4 and gone back to work...........and I don't stick bamboo slits under my finger nails for fun.

I have never accused you of being a Jew hater.....but I suggest you read MHz, enassir, Petros, and Jackie Cox. Pure, unadulterated hatred. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion revisited. These folks would either participate in a new holocaust, or stand by and shake their heads at how the Jews asked for it........they are the reason there needs to be a Jewish state.

I have no use for traitors........but I was simply making the point that Israel does not execute..........unlike all her enemies.

Germany stood accused of genocide and that country and its people bore the scorn of much of the world because of it Israel now stands accused of the same crimes and you beg for tolerance something not given to Germany and quite rightly so if they were indeed guilty of the crime. Why should the world turn a blind eye for Israel? What is the basis for such exceptionalism? In fact the articles signed at Nuremberg make it very clear that this would also be criminal.

 

[clutch]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

No, Israel did NOT offer to sell SA nukes.....Please go back to post number 84 on this thread, where there is a link to an interview with the author of the book that started this tempest......the ONLY documents in existence dealing with the sale of Jericho missiles are South African.....and those missiles are nuclear or non-nuclear capable. The South Africans assumed the Israelis would sell them nukes to use on the missile..... stupid on their part.......Now THINK!!! This happened in 1975. The regime lasted 15 more years, during which they were in close contact with the Israelis........Guess what??? The South Africans DO NOT HAVE, and NEVER HAVE HAD nuclear weapons. That kinda settles the matter, doesn't it????????

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south africa DID have nuclear weapons. they had six bombs constructed and one under counstruction. they dismantled their nuclear weapons' program back in '89.

 

[Colpy]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

south africa DID have nuclear weapons. they had six bombs constructed and one under counstruction. they dismantled their nuclear weapons' program back in '89.

Link please.....

Did my own research, and you are correct, they had 4 nukes in 1989.......but the South Africans did all the work themselves....

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Safrica/SABuildingBombs.html

And Israel had NOTHING to do with it, according to people with nothing to lose...

http://www.mg.co.za/article/2010-05-24-pik-botha-denies-nuclear-exchange-talks

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=74828

 

[ironsides]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

Israel hasen't even admitted owning a nuclear arsenal, why would they admit to selling to S. Africa. It is all accusations without basis by a ignorant anti Jewish segment ( of course based in Great Briton)

Israel hasen't even admitted owning a nuclear arsenal, why would they admit to selling to S. Africa. It is all accusations without basis by a ignorant anti Jewish segment ( of course based in Great Briton)

Again same as Israel, cannot prove S. Africa had a nuclear bomb, only that they were working on one.

Does South Africa Have A Nuclear Bomb In Its Basement?

 

[clutch]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

Link please.....

Nuclear Weapons Program - South Africa

South Africa developed at least six nuclear warheads, which it later acknowledged, along with a variety of missiles and other conventional weapons. These projects were undertaken with some cooperation from Israel -- another technologically advanced, militarily powerful, nuclear-capable nation surrounded by hostile neighbors.

 

[Downhome_Woman]

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Have you ever seen it? The Christian origins were never defaced out of respect and Islamic themes were added later as the building grew to continue the story depicted in the architecture and art works.

Go see it some time, you might enjoy yourself.

Big deal - Christian origins were never erased - but Christians can't worship there - it's a museum. funny thing - rather than make it into a museum, they could have returned what they had stolen and desecrated (yes, it was stolen, and they desecrated it by turning it into a mosque)and people would still have been able to appreciate the architectural wonders of this magnificent building.
and yes, I know I'd enjoy it if and when I have that opportunity to see it,I enjoyed the dome of the Rock, I enjoyed the lovely mosque in Kirouan, and I've enjoyed many others - but that enjoyment would not take away from the fact that this museum had once been one of the holiest churches in Christendom - and could have been again, if the Turkish government had been brave enough to do what it should have done - give stolen property back to it's rightful owners.

 

[petros]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

Big deal - Christian origins were never erased - but Christians can't worship there - it's a museum.

Big deal is right. They can't worship there because after 1600 ****ing years and 30+ earthquakes it's not safe for large amounts of people.

Stolen from a dead empire. That's hillarious and shows lack of "sophia".

 

[eanassir]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

They 'bribed' the UK to draft the Balfour Declaration. The 'gift' was getting America involved in WWI so Britain had control of Palestine. The reward for America came as wealth for some of the 'elect' of the country and all that 'work' helped a stagnant economy (1907 depression).

Balfour’s Declaration—November, 2, 1917

Muslims, Christians, and Jews have one force that is controlling things to make wars (and all the money spent on anything related to war).

God is Just; all people are His servants; so whether man belongs to any sect, and all that is according to his traditional beliefs of his family; but it makes sense: does this man respond to the recent apostle sent by God or will he reamain stuck to his traditions.

Therefore, even Muslims who does not respond to the mission of the devotion to God alone and the new interpretation of the Quran by Elia of the last days (or the Paraclite or the Awaited Mehdi) --> such Muslims are blamed,

and if Muslims keep up to their enthusiasm about imams and companions of the Prophet or the Prophet himself --> they will lose.

Smilarly, the rest of followers of all religions if they do not believe in the Quran and respond to the call for the exclusive devotion to God alone.

A Call to Contemporary Jews

 

[petros]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

eanassir you are really flogging a dead horse hoping to convert the Jew when the Christians have had a 400 year head start trying to tame them and have only ended up going backwards with the Jew making them think they are connected through the bible and using Gods word of the NT to trick the Christian Zionists into fighting their wars against the Muslim.

 

[eanassir]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

A call to Jews:

If Jews want to have the good-pleasure of God, they should not be unjust and blind to the truth: that Mohammed came with the true call: No god but God alone without associate.

Then this noble prophet did not rest until he broke up all the idols and constructed graves in all Arabis; as is it narrated from Imam Ali - salam be to him that he said:

"[Mohammed] the apostle of God sent me in a campaign [to Yemen] to break up all idols and images, and to destroy all the [constructed] graves."


Therefore, there has not been any prophet doing as did Mohammed in this respect to fight the idolatry and destroy it utterly; if he had not been sent by God, then he would have agreed to leave some of their idols, as do politician do.
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/spirituality-philosophy/91320-cheating-prophet-4.html
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Some idolaters and hypocrites came to Medina and said: "Mohammed, leave us to our idols and we leave you to your God." But God revealed to him that he should not obey them:

(O prophet, [be steadfast to] ward off [the punishment of] God, and obey not the unbelievers and the hypocrites ​

[but tell them that the idols are useless and should be abandoned and broken up]; ​

surely God is All-Knowing [about their intentions before their coming to you], Most Wise.​

But follow what is revealed to you from your Lord [to break up the idols]; surely God is Most Aware of that you [all] do.​

And put [O prophet] your trust in God [to accomplish your task]; and enough is God as a guardian [over you.]​

God did not make to any man two hearts within his body
[so that you assign one heart to the idols and the other to God; but He made for you one heart that you should fill it with God's love.])​

The above between brackets is the interpretation by the late Mohammed-Ali Hassan of the Quran 33: 1-4 ; these ayat were revealed forbidding him from listening and obeying the words of those idolaters and hypocrites: ​

يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ اتَّقِ اللَّهَ وَلَا تُطِعِ الْكَافِرِينَ وَالْمُنَافِقِينَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا حَكِيمًا .وَاتَّبِعْ مَا يُوحَى إِلَيْكَ مِن رَّبِّكَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ خَبِيرًا . وَتَوَكَّلْ عَلَى اللَّهِ وَكَفَى بِاللَّهِ وَكِيلًا . مَّا جَعَلَ اللَّهُ لِرَجُلٍ مِّن قَلْبَيْنِ فِي جَوْفِهِ ​

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Now you, Jews, have to believe in the Quran to save yourselves; and follow the interpeter with his interpretation coming from God; and it is narrated that 70 000 of Jews will follow the awaited Elia of the last days (or the Mahdi.)

Your grandfathers were stubborn and did not hear the warnings said to them by the past prophets of God: until they were utterly ruined. So don't be like your ancestors and do not reject the bidding of God and His servant: the interpreter who invited you to believe in God alone and in the Quran and its interpretation.

Don't let your love to your people blind you from seeing the truth of the Quran: the word of God; because your people will not avail you against God's wrath and punishment;

But follow the truth of the Quran and study the wisdom of God included in the Quran and its interpretation in order to be saved and prosper in the afterlife.
Quran Interpretation

As in the Quran 4: 47

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ أُوتُواْ الْكِتَابَ آمِنُواْ بِمَا نَزَّلْنَا مُصَدِّقًا لِّمَا مَعَكُم مِّن قَبْلِ أَن نَّطْمِسَ وُجُوهًا فَنَرُدَّهَا عَلَى أَدْبَارِهَا أَوْ نَلْعَنَهُمْ كَمَا لَعَنَّا أَصْحَابَ السَّبْتِ وَكَانَ أَمْرُ اللّهِ مَفْعُولاً​

The explanation:
(O you [Jews] who were given the Book [: the Torah]! ​

Believe in [the Quran] that We have revealed [to Mohammed], confirming that [monotheism] which you had previously;​

before We destroy [your] chiefs and make them perish [: make them run away] turning their backs [at fighting] ​

or curse them as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers; ​

for God's will is going to be fulfilled.)​

A Call to Contemporary Jews​

 

[ironsides]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

If I were to pick a religion to live by, it would be the Old Testament one, Ten Commandments and all. All the other religions have gone thru to much modification, convince changes etc. by man.

 

[eanassir]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

If I were to pick a religion to live by, it would be the Old Testament one, Ten Commandments and all. All the other religions have gone thru to much modification, convince changes etc. by man.

The Ten Commandments and the Quran​

The Ten Commandments are undoubtedly the word of God which He inscribed on the two tablets of stone for his servant Moses.

There is nothing comparable to such marvelous ten words of God, but only the Quran which came down from heaven as a revelation word by word from God Himself by the angel Gabriel who revealed the Quran aya by aya to Prophet Mohammed who conveyed it to people and ordered them to write such ayat on parchment or peices of wood ..etc.

But that was the age of stone, and it passed away, and this is the age of science and knowledge; and God That inscribed His ten words on the stone, He is the same That revealed the Quran to Mohammed; therefore believe in all the apostles of God, if you want to obey Him in fact.

This is in the Quran 2: 91

وَإِذَا قِيلَ لَهُمْ آمِنُواْ بِمَا أَنزَلَ اللّهُ قَالُواْ نُؤْمِنُ بِمَآ أُنزِلَ عَلَيْنَا وَيَكْفُرونَ بِمَا وَرَاءهُ وَهُوَ الْحَقُّ مُصَدِّقاً لِّمَا مَعَهُمْ قُلْ فَلِمَ تَقْتُلُونَ أَنبِيَاء اللّهِ مِن قَبْلُ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ​

The explanation:
(And when it is said to them [:Jews]:'Believe in [the Quran] that God has revealed', ​

they say: 'We believe [exclusively] in [the Torah and the Book] that was revealed to us.' ​

And they disbelieve in [the Gospel and the Quran] that came after it, though it is the truth confirming [the Torah] that they already have. ​

Say [to them, O Mohammed]: 'Why then did you slay the prophets of God aforetime, if you are [indeed] believers?')​

They Killed the Prophets​

 

[MHz]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

If I were to pick a religion to live by, it would be the Old Testament one, Ten Commandments and all. All the other religions have gone thru to much modification, convince changes etc. by man.

How about if a religion was to pick you, like Christ plunking you into whatever one of the seven Churches best fits your relationship to God? The Torah doesn't promote Gentiles as being able to own 'Jews' but it does promote 'Jews' having the right to own Gentiles as slaves. Killing them is legal if they keep breathing for a set time (day or two) after a beating. Not many Gentiles are going to allow that to happen without a whole lot of resistance happening first.

There is nothing comparable to such marvelous ten words of God, but only the Quran which came down from heaven as a revelation word by word from God Himself by the angel Gabriel who revealed the Quran aya by aya to Prophet Mohammed who conveyed it to people and ordered them to write such ayat on parchment or peices of wood ..etc.

The revelation was via an Angel, that is who God spoke to, the Angel then spoke to man, God Himself did not speak in the situation you described.

In your 'comparison' are you saying the Torah and the Holy bible are 'less' than the Quran even though the Laws are in those two Books ?
Jesus spoke God's message word-for-word, as did the OT Prophets and the NT writers, with the exception that they would have heard the voice of Jesus.

 

[eanassir]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

How about if a religion was to pick you, like Christ plunking you into whatever one of the seven Churches best fits your relationship to God? The Torah doesn't promote Gentiles as being able to own 'Jews' but it does promote 'Jews' having the right to own Gentiles as slaves. Killing them is legal if they keep breathing for a set time (day or two) after a beating. Not many Gentiles are going to allow that to happen without a whole lot of resistance happening first.


The revelation was via an Angel, that is who God spoke to, the Angel then spoke to man, God Himself did not speak in the situation you described.

In your 'comparison' are you saying the Torah and the Holy bible are 'less' than the Quran even though the Laws are in those two Books ?
Jesus spoke God's message word-for-word, as did the OT Prophets and the NT writers, with the exception that they would have heard the voice of Jesus.

Also God certainly revealed the Torah and the Books to the prophets and the Psalms to David, and the Gospel to Jesus - salam be on all the prophets of God.

But if you examine the available Bible: you see most of it history telling and composition: of course it is originally and essentially the inspiration of God; while the Quran is different; it is word by word form God as you read it now like the Ten Words of God are known by heart.

If we examine the Quran, we find it like the constitution statements: declaring things that none can assert other than God Himself, and He speaks in addressing expression like:
Say to them, Mohammed. O prophet do so and so; O prophet don't obey them. If you incline to them We shall punish you ...etc.

In other words: there was an olive tree from which Moses heard the voice of God speaking to him in the wilderness of Sinai;

then that tree died; so its spirit went to heaven:

from this spiritual tree Gabriel heard the words of God and he descended with such words of the Quran to Prophet Mohammed, and he in his turn told people about the word revealed from God: the Glorious Quran:

for this reason the Quran is comparable only to the Ten Commandments: the very words of God Himself: as in the Quran 26: 192-195

وَإِنَّهُ لَتَنزِيلُ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ
نَزَلَ بِهِ الرُّوحُ الْأَمِينُ
عَلَى قَلْبِكَ لِتَكُونَ مِنَ الْمُنذِرِينَ
بِلِسَانٍ عَرَبِيٍّ مُّبِينٍ

The explanation:
(And the [Quran] is the revealing from the Lord of the worlds.​

The 'Trustworthy Ghost' [Gabriel] came down with it,​

Upon your heart [Mohammed], that you should become [one] of those who warn.​

In a fluent Arabic language.)


Moreover, there are many words of the prophet himself, and such words originally also instructions and inspiration from God originally but that is not the Quran; they are the prophet words.

So the Bible is full of the words of the prophets mixed with some words of God Himself; although the prophet speaks words that explain the commands of God, but such words were not the words of God Himself like the Quran.:sign7:​

www.quran-ayat.com

 

[clutch]

Re: How About Keeping The Rest Of Us Safe From Israel?

"let every Arab mother know that her son’s fate is in my hands!”
(depiction of a soldier ready to rape an arab woman)

left: "“the smaller [the child], the harder [that i shoot]”
right: “only God forgives [the dead]”

"israeli sharpshooters company: pregnant woman, 1 shot 2 kills”

http://www.israeli-occupation.org/2...n-babies-and-bombed-mosques-idf-fashion-2009/

quote: There are also plenty of shirts with blatant sexual messages. For example, the Lavi battalion produced a shirt featuring a drawing of a soldier next to a young woman with bruises, and the slogan, “Bet you got raped!” A few of the images underscore actions whose existence the army officially denies – such as “confirming the kill” (shooting a bullet into an enemy victim’s head from close range, to ensure he is dead), or harming religious sites, or female or child non-combatants.

In many cases, the content is submitted for approval to one of the unit’s commanders.


Again I ask, does Israel contribute anything positive?

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