Show me you had that view of her before that article surfaced? Who the fuk are you to decide what people can think and say?
Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet
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I kinda like Libby.
I always thought that were I ever PM, I would like to have Libby Davies in my cabinet.
Then, during especially stressfull and fractious cabinet meetings, I could say... "So, Libby, what do you think???"....and them sit in rapt attention as she rants in that voice, espousing the most outlandish views, her chubby cheeks flushed, her entire being quaking with outrage, fists clenched............
Comic relief, you know.
Then we could get back to the serious stuff.
I always thought that were I ever PM, I would like to have Libby Davies in my cabinet.
Then, during especially stressfull and fractious cabinet meetings, I could say... "So, Libby, what do you think???"....and them sit in rapt attention as she rants in that voice, espousing the most outlandish views, her chubby cheeks flushed, her entire being quaking with outrage, fists clenched............
Comic relief, you know.
Then we could get back to the serious stuff.
How many times did you have to look in the mirror and chuckle while typing that part of the post? Nobody will tell so be honest for once.
Israel’s 'Friends' Still Shamelessly Swinging From Chandeliers at Westminster
Tuesday, 15 June 2010 07:57
'And now Israel has invited Conservative Lord David Trimble to become an independent observer (suppressed laughter) in its self-appointed inquiry into the piratical assault on the Mavi Marmara, in which at least nine aid workers were murdered. As it happens, Trimble has just joined the odious John Bolton to launch the "Friends of Israel Initiative", a new project to counter attempts to delegitimize the State of Israel.
Trimble is remembered for his connection with the fanatical and extremist Orange Order of Northern Ireland. As a member of the Henry Jackson Society he now hob-nobs with the likes of Robert Halfon.
A flagship publication of the society, The British Moment, calls for a new way of thinking about British foreign, security and defence policy, and argues that it is time for Britain, and indeed the rest of Europe, to reclaim the tradition of interventionism across the globe. This is generally taken to mean the bully-boys can cook up daft excuse (like a country not having Western-style democratic government) to help themselves to the world’s goodies – like Iraqi and Iranian oil and Afghanistan’s mineral wealth.'
Read more: Israel’s 'Friends' Still Shamelessly Swinging From Chandeliers at Westminster
clasping at straws?
Israeli Deputy FM: 75 al-Qaeda Mercenaries on Aid Ship
Tuesday, 15 June 2010 07:29
'Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon appeared on CNN’s “GPS” show today, and once again changed the official story related to the Israeli attack on the Mavi Marmara aid ship two weeks ago.
Danny AyalonAyalon now claims that 75 al-Qaeda linked mercenaries were on board the ship, heavily armed, and that they ambushed the Israeli troops before their eventual capture.'
Read more: Israeli Deputy FM: 75 al-Qaeda Mercenaries on Aid Ship
Tuesday, 15 June 2010 07:57
'And now Israel has invited Conservative Lord David Trimble to become an independent observer (suppressed laughter) in its self-appointed inquiry into the piratical assault on the Mavi Marmara, in which at least nine aid workers were murdered. As it happens, Trimble has just joined the odious John Bolton to launch the "Friends of Israel Initiative", a new project to counter attempts to delegitimize the State of Israel.
Trimble is remembered for his connection with the fanatical and extremist Orange Order of Northern Ireland. As a member of the Henry Jackson Society he now hob-nobs with the likes of Robert Halfon.
A flagship publication of the society, The British Moment, calls for a new way of thinking about British foreign, security and defence policy, and argues that it is time for Britain, and indeed the rest of Europe, to reclaim the tradition of interventionism across the globe. This is generally taken to mean the bully-boys can cook up daft excuse (like a country not having Western-style democratic government) to help themselves to the world’s goodies – like Iraqi and Iranian oil and Afghanistan’s mineral wealth.'
Read more: Israel’s 'Friends' Still Shamelessly Swinging From Chandeliers at Westminster
clasping at straws?
Israeli Deputy FM: 75 al-Qaeda Mercenaries on Aid Ship
Tuesday, 15 June 2010 07:29
'Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon appeared on CNN’s “GPS” show today, and once again changed the official story related to the Israeli attack on the Mavi Marmara aid ship two weeks ago.
Danny AyalonAyalon now claims that 75 al-Qaeda linked mercenaries were on board the ship, heavily armed, and that they ambushed the Israeli troops before their eventual capture.'
Read more: Israeli Deputy FM: 75 al-Qaeda Mercenaries on Aid Ship
Why? I like objective and informed sources of information.
There is no basis in law for that as you well know. Your question has no other purpose then to legitimize the law blockade, without fact.
First you have to prove that Israel continuously and have a stated policy of denying aid. Even the UN can't prove that.
There are instances where material that should not be stopped, is. That is an egregious error on Israel's part. Which is why, as has been stated and proven, time and time again, it is not a stated, recorded, nor written policy. As happens even in North America, border guards oft use poor judgment in dispensing their duties.
This of course is a far cry from the overt act of raiding aid storehouses, NGO's and then selling the materials on the black market for personal gain. As has been done by Hamas.
Sine you obviously still read my posts and ignore answering them directly. Instead preferring to post blind questions, obviously to me, in a very cowardice way. So you don't have to acknowledge anything you can't refute in my posts. I will hold no hopes that you answer these questions.
Do you have proof that it is a state policy, written, and publicly acknowledged by the State of Israel, to deny humanitarian aid to Palestine?
If you believe that theft of humanitarian aid is a war crime, how can you defend Hamas as an honest group, when they have provable been stealing humanitarian aid constantly?
Says who?I've cited treaties, conventions and accords, that dictate otherwise. You've cited on source, of which I have already proven, to be flawed. They even admit to "re-interpreting" international law.
Agree, the video in which heavy weapons are found, is not of the Miva Marmara. But you still haven't explained how the video of the boarding of the Miva Marmara is a fake. Apart from just blanket claims without any description of what they are.
Furthermore, if you believe that the video of the heavy weapons are from a ship stopped in 2009. I thanky you greatly for confirming the evidence, and the legal justification of the blockade.
Like I said earlier, Israel has made no official claim using that video. In fact, the only mention of it, is from a poster at the blog you are trying to use as supporting evidence.
It isn't even a source of legal opinion. It is an aid group, whose philosophical condemnation of war has coloured its own admitted re-interpretation of international law.
What absolute garbage. I notice you haven't even tried t
I have, and nowhere is it stated and supported by convention, that they are a legal body, with the right to re-interpret international law. They actually make claim and clearly state that they themselves gave themselves that right. As I have already proven with links to their own pages, and documents. Just because you ignore it, doesn't make it any less real.
So, unless you can actually cite what convention, and what legal grounds you believe give them the legal right to re-interpret law, and present legal opinion. You're post is simply bullsh!t, as usual and should be posted along with your other one, in the fun and jokes section.
You notice I actually go beyond what I'm told eao, I actually read what you post and address it, unlike yourself, who prefers to hide and ignore the responsibility of answering directly. Making it all to easy to ignore and dismiss things that tear apart your position.
Pathetic really.
Again, more garbage, unsupported and without merit. They only people confused about international law, are those that get their interpretations of it, from humanitarian aid groups, completely apposed to conflict and view it as illegal to begin with!
Quite.
I read your article, then I traced it back through another site that mangled it all the way back to its sources. You may want to do that too. That way you will begin to understand what spin looks like.
The originating article does not claim that 75 activists were linked to Al Quada. It clearly states that they were linked to Al Quada and other terror groups, including IHH.
Spin spin spin.
I find this hard to believe, but I agree with you. The only video that looks fishy is the one I submitted showing weapons being found on the ship. The other videos look and I will say are real. It does look like Israel wanted to video this whole operation in order to cover themselves.
Dude, even the so called smuggled video, proves Israel approached and boarded the Mavi Marmara using paintball guns. Not firearms, until they were attacked. In stark contradictions to the claims of some.
http://vimeo.com/12429821
Nope, no live rounds from the motor launches, with the pilots needed to enter port. Like you and I both know are a requirement at any port. They shot no one from the helo, as has been repeatedly touted as cause for armed resistance. All they did was SOP dropping of smoke grenades to clear the LZ and get a wind bearing.
And despite all that, you can plainly see the "peace activists" using sling shots to attack the helo and boarding party. Before the boarding party needed to defend itself with lethal force.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but in Canada, using a sling shot to attack a person, is a criminal offense. They call it assault with a deadly weapon. Matters are only made worse when you use it to assault a lawful force.
And lets not forget what SOP is for retrieving fallen fellow Troopers eh? I know what the Marine Corp. SOP is, ours is very much the same. Can't imagine the Israeli's gave a different view.
A recent claim by an activist said that they were told by organizers that the flotilla was not subject to seizure or boarding by Israeli forces in international waters. So if the Israeli's did in fact attempt to board, they could lawfully repel them as pirates. Of course that was followed by the claim that they were not in breach of the law, because they were told they weren't and therefor ignorant to it.
And we all know how the courts view ignorance of the law. It's no excuse, full stop.
How did I miss this gem. Must be the fact that it, along with the majority of posts from you people, is compiled of bullsh!t and got lost in the pile and hidden by the steam.
Good idea, the bulk of your post was out of context, off topic, detached from reality and complete BS. And you noted, "enough about me", I find that quite a fitting description of content, and a truthful admission.
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Oh come on....Hedy Fry is definitely NOT comic relief.......
Obnoxious, stupid, a liar, a freak and a scumball......yes.
But funny?
Never!
I wonder who Jack works for. It ain't us.
Lebanese women sending aid ship to Gaza: organisers
An aid ship transporting medical supplies to Gaza will leave Lebanon in the coming days with dozens of women activists on board, one of the organisers told AFP on Tuesday.
"We are all independent women who believe in breaking the siege on Gaza and are committed to the enmity of the Zionist entity," said Samar Hajj, who is coordinating the trip.
Egypt has accepted to issue visa for Iran MPs to visit Gaza
An Iranian parliamentarian Mahmoud Ahmadi-Biqash said Egyptian government has accepted to issue visa for a number of Iranian parliament members to visit Gaza Strip.
Following Zionist regime's deadly attack on an aid flotilla heading to Gaza Strip, a number of Iranian lawmakers have called for visiting Gaza Strip.
Gaza crossing points opened as Israel bows to international pressure
Stéphane Frédéric Hessel is a diplomat, former ambassador, French resistance fighter and BCRA agent. Born German, he obtained French nationality in 1937. He participated in the drafting of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948.Israel bowed to international pressure yesterday when it agreed to reopen crossing points into Gaza for everyday goods.
The decision was prompted by criticism of its bloody interception of an aid flotilla two weeks ago and condemnation of the Gaza blockade by the Red Cross.
DB The zionist hate state is up against the ropes of the world, now they will play their sleeve hidden nuclear cards, they have never been as dangerous as they are right now. They require an act of god to get out of this bind that their arrogance and stupidity have provided, instead they will butcher many hundreds of thousands of innocent humans to save their own worthless skins and lie and defame every millimeter on the road to hell.DB
Lebanese women sending aid ship to Gaza: organisers
An aid ship transporting medical supplies to Gaza will leave Lebanon in the coming days with dozens of women activists on board, one of the organisers told AFP on Tuesday.
"We are all independent women who believe in breaking the siege on Gaza and are committed to the enmity of the Zionist entity," said Samar Hajj, who is coordinating the trip.
Egypt has accepted to issue visa for Iran MPs to visit Gaza
An Iranian parliamentarian Mahmoud Ahmadi-Biqash said Egyptian government has accepted to issue visa for a number of Iranian parliament members to visit Gaza Strip.
Following Zionist regime's deadly attack on an aid flotilla heading to Gaza Strip, a number of Iranian lawmakers have called for visiting Gaza Strip.
Gaza crossing points opened as Israel bows to international pressure
Stéphane Frédéric Hessel is a diplomat, former ambassador, French resistance fighter and BCRA agent. Born German, he obtained French nationality in 1937. He participated in the drafting of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of 1948.Israel bowed to international pressure yesterday when it agreed to reopen crossing points into Gaza for everyday goods.
The decision was prompted by criticism of its bloody interception of an aid flotilla two weeks ago and condemnation of the Gaza blockade by the Red Cross.
DB The zionist hate state is up against the ropes of the world, now they will play their sleeve hidden nuclear cards, they have never been as dangerous as they are right now. They require an act of god to get out of this bind that their arrogance and stupidity have provided, instead they will butcher many hundreds of thousands of innocent humans to save their own worthless skins and lie and defame every millimeter on the road to hell.DB
No it is not, please try to pay attention. Israel is being suckered with false promises. Those come from the House of Rothschild. Do you need to write that down? Once you have have you ever heard of this guy, seem like he might be part of the Hamas legal team. Since they are Lawyers working on commission you can be sure they are hungry.
Int?l law expert Aral: Israel not as untouchable as before
Berdal Aral, an international law expert who teaches at İstanbul’s Fatih University, has said that Israel has been increasingly criticized by the world community and that it is more vulnerable than before because of its actions.
“Israel now has committed new crimes and is not as untouchable as before. Almost all countries in the word have been critical of its latest attack in one way or another,” he told Today’s Zaman for Monday Talk regarding Israel’s attack on May 31 which killed nine people and wounded several dozen on an aid ship carrying activists from more than 30 countries.
Would you state that he has made his mind up - Others have stated that Isreal has the Legal Authority to board the ships regardless on where they are in international waters - seems the Isrealis boarded and were attacked - Is that not provocation - Is that not self defense - they can legally board those ships that attempt to break the blockade.
And your point is - ?????????????????
Yes I know, you seem to fail to grasp the context and content of the parts you quote, then run off on tangents unrelated to the topic of the string. But from what I've seen, it isn't isolated to just my posts.
As I've said before, please start a thread on this topic and we can examine the bastardization of recorded history and contradictory nature of many of the claims of a Rothschild conspiracy.
Not really. In discussions in other places, on banking, both globally and domestically, it has been a challenge to find material online that doesn't contain some serious points, but falls apart when it dives into the world of stupid, and starts making all sorts of wild and unsupported claims about the Rothschild family, new world orders, and secret societies.
Ya, I read that. Not a lot of facts being used to support his opinion, and you've already proven him wrong anyways. Using facts no less.
I heard that Iran is sending a flotilla of ships to Gaza filled with military commandos and lots of rockets and couple nuclear rockets as well for the Gaza terrorists to shoot into Israel.
It probably not be true and there might be food supplies but since it is coming from Iran it's anybodies guess.
This flotilla will arrive by this weekend.
It probably not be true and there might be food supplies but since it is coming from Iran it's anybodies guess.
This flotilla will arrive by this weekend.
It isn't true, I have heard there will be a hospital ship so that would be a long term, along with a warship to protect it.
You don't understand, the House of Rothschild, are not to blame for the worlds woes, they are just bankers who pretty much created the banking system we have today. Yes the helped finance Israel at its onset, but no more.
1992: In March, former Federal Reserve Board Chairman, Paul A. Volker became Chairman of the European banking firm, J. Rothschild, Wolfensohn and Co.
2006: The Edmond De Rothschild Banque, a subsidiary of Europe's Edmond De Rothschild family bank group in France, becomes the first foreign family bank that has obtained approval of the China Banking Regulatory Commission and entered China's financial market.
A very powerful family, but still a mythical goblin, and someone to blame. Every hate group needs a focal point to start with. They did however start the first modern "ponzy" scheme that all banks today do.
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TEHRAN (Reuters) –
Iran is sending aid ships to blockaded Gaza, state radio said on Monday -- a move likely to be considered provocative by Israel which accuses Tehran of arming the Palestinian enclave's Islamist rulers, [COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Hamas[/COLOR][/COLOR].
One ship left port on Sunday and another will depart by Friday, loaded with food, construction material and toys, the report said. "Until the end of (Israel's) Gaza blockade, Iran will continue to ship aid," said an official at Iran's Society for the Defense of the
[COLOR=#366388 !important][COLOR=#366388 !important]Palestinian [COLOR=#366388 !important]Nation[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR].
Iran has sent aid to the
coastal territory in the past via Egypt. It was not immediately clear if the latest shipments would do the same, or try to dock in Gaza itself.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_iran_gaza_ship
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Besides my moral objection to the blockade, and my tactical disagreement with the way they boarded the Mavi Marmara, this would be the biggest reason why I thought the whole debacle was ill conceived. It facilitated an escalation in hostilities. Bolstered by international condemnation, no matter the legality. Which of course will cause the Islamic states balls to grow exponentially, thinking the world will stand behind them.
As I've said many times, and always ignored by the chattering unwashed, Israel is party to its own misery, 100 fold.