Israel 'attacks' Gaza aid fleet

[MHz]

Do you have any idea of the power of some wheelchair batteries, as well as what they can be used for after all they are just batteries. (remote detonation of bombs). Deep cell 12 volt batteries, use for wheelchairs, golf carts and powering tanks. Don't use that oh what about the poor person in a electric wheelchair excuse. Israel argues that it is blocking items allegedly used by Hamas in manufacturing rockets or for military operations. These include stationery, toys, crayons, pencils A deadly weapon can be made from almost anything as previously discussed.…

Do you really have any idea?

I give up the legal issue of the legality of boarding in international waters and you come up with this crap. Now they are back to being fuktards, same as you are. Shouldn't there be a big raid to clear Gaza and the West Bank to confiscate everything that is shown to be a weapon as in the photo taken on the Mavi Marmara.

To be truly safe they would have to put everyone in a wheelchair (without batteries) and then lop off all the hands so the chairs cannot be moved.
Perhaps they are lying, as usual. Taking out the hospital was so they could not be treated for injuries right. Water treatment facilities were destroyed because Hamas need to drink.
Once they are all dead who is next besides Iran, Lebannon, Syria, and now Turkey?

 

[ironsides]

Read the articles on blockades. Are you blind, I already posted the whole article where the legality of blockades was explained to a small degree, some of the finer points was left out, like inspection and then the ship has the right to continue to it's destination.

Defense does not include collective punishment nor does it allow Israel to determine the quantity of humanitarian aid they are allowed.

You may or may not have noticed but the people of Gaza don't make many bones about their treatment anymore, it is the 'international aid' organizations. The people of Gaza and the West Bank know full well that the West will not be listening to any complaints other than from Israel. That policy has been in effect since '47. Most likely why we refused to attend the humanitarian conferences that the UN hosted over the last few years.

So, you are saying that if left on their own the people of Gaza would eventually work out their problems with Israel and that it is these outside so called international aid organizations that are causing the problems? Now that is a interesting concept.


Israel may not have the right to limit the amount of humanitarian aid, but they do have the right to limit or block what kind of aid is allowed. I also see no problem with Israel inspecting all ships going into and out of a Gaza port. But they must be allowed to inspect all vessels and aircraft.

Ok, the blockade is highly illegal. It prevents much aid getting into Gaza, what is this a concentration camp?

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so after they were condemned by half the world's leaders for killing off a bunch of humanitarians, now the israeli's decide to do it in a more peaceful manner to avoid another tsunami of criticism.

No, the so called humanitarians decided somebody was being serious and this is not a game.

 

[captain morgan]

Lets see if the tactic changes with the next ship. The early reports said they were boarded, not they haven't been. So it is a wait and see game.

tactics will probably change. The bigot-brigade have already announced their intentions and it's likely that the Israelis won't go in like before... i wouldn't be too surprised if the Commandos use a slightly different tack this time and disable the boat once it has been given suitable warnings... Bugger-up their motors by floating some netting into the prop and then tow the idiots out into intl waters and let them martyr themselves out there.

Pretend about what? Would you have preferred they had killed some rather than giving them some bruises?

.. Pretending that the flotilla had anything to do with the deliver of aid... It was a well planned lynching preconceived by a Turkish terrorist group that recruited many useful idiots (thanks CDNBear for the term) as cannon fodder.

In terms of the 'bruises' delivered by the bigot-brigade; I suppose that you now realize the cost of those bruises were paid in many bigot lives.

Well lets see, Germany didn't break any laws during WWII, that still didn't work out for them in the end did it?

You can look forward to Hamas having to answer for their program of genocide against the Jews.... Careful what you wish for MHz - you may just get it.

Where did I say that? The war was already well under way by the time Hamas was elected. They have every right to challenge the legality of UN181, if it was a sure win for the 33 Nations that voted to take their land (from an war-time Allie of all people). It certainly wasn't Hamas who has stopped any Courts from hearing the pertition (the one Court actually)

There's something that you need to understand.... First, I couldn't give a rats-a$$ about the UN. They are an inneffective body (at best). Secondly, the terrorists that wrap themselves in the Palestinian flag deserve no UN consideration whatsoever... That leaves the innocents. Considering that the Palestinian terrorists have absolutely no regard for their people, don't expect the Israeis to. I mean really, Hamas leverages their own women/children 'cause they are to afraid to put themselves into the fight - how despicable is that?

The concept is quite valid, nobody seems to be willing to protect the local residents,

I'll ask again - Protection from who? Hamas or the Israelis?

Did Israel ever come up with a list of banned items that are actually manufactured as a weapon or do they just make it up as they go?

Are you referring to the electric wheelchairs again?... Yeah, sure - they can't afford medical treatment or basic food stuffs for their population, but every household gets to electric wheelchairs.

The big irony on that.... Israel provides in the neighbourhood of 70% of the electricity to them from the Israeli grid.

How would you know?

I see it in all your posts.

You calling me a terrorist? Let me guess you have brown eyes.

"You" being Hamas....... My eyes are green

For your narrow view of the world it should sound about right, only certain humans have the right to life.

Here's a question for you champ; In this situation, which group has announced a policy of eradicating an specific, highly identifiable group/culture from the planet?

Yeah, sing me the blues about human rights.

might explain why so many of our noble institutions are rotten to the core, butb then you probably support child rape by priests an members of the Western Governments.

Wrong.. I don't support anything of the sort, I leave that to sickos like yourself.

But while we're on the topic, tell us all about the rampant homosexual abuse of boys and the marriage of 12 & 13 y/o girls to men who could be their grandfathers... Tell us about the repeated rapes of these youngsters and the beatings they suffer if they don't put out for their loving protectors.

The group you are supporting have it ingrained in their culture, so think twice before you accuse others of atrocities that are run-of-the-mill among the terrorists that you so rabidly support.

Just the deceptive part. There are probably more than just a few things you don't get.

Ah... But strapping high explosives to mentally handicapped women is above board and inline with the basic rules of engagement is it?

That's right they had the best equipment that America can buy for them.

And?

The end will be in accordance to Lord Rothschild's original vision of a Jewish State.

More tin-foil hat talk.

I didn't say easy, I said Turkey has friend that would come to her support even if that meant going against the US and she is weakest on her reliance on the dollar being the main currency.

Then Turkey really ought to rethink their participation in this entire mess, hadn't they?

Opening Gaza to more humanitarian aid is the goal

Goal achieved quite some time ago through Israel and Egypt.... You can call off the flotilla I suppose, unless, well, hey - maybe there is an alternative motive here!

I doubt Israel will think her standing in the world is so secure that she would confront a military power the size of Turkey.

Except for that time when Egypt, Syria and Jordan attacked..... Do you recall the outcome?

 

[lone wolf]

tactics will probably change. The bigot-brigade have already announced their intentions and it's likely that the Israelis won't go in like before... i wouldn't be too surprised if the Commandos use a slightly different tack this time and disable the boat once it has been given suitable warnings... Bugger-up their motors by floating some netting into the prop and then tow the idiots out into intl waters and let them martyr themselves out there.

How much more international do those waters have to be?

 

[clutch]

You mean this one..? Did, nothing in there supports your claims.

No, but you are, willfully I might add.

Who purposely misinterpret law, and suckers like you suck it up like it's fact. Hence why you can't cite specifics when queried as to how the law is applied. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence, supplied by yourself, you still can't admit it.

I wonder what you would say if you lived in a tiny area and a foreign government came along and implemented a blockade. This blockade dictated how much food came in and other necessities. Instead of usual 3 meals a day now due to lack of food coming in could only have 1 decent meal a day and you were starving the majority of the day. Also many necessary medical supplies couldn't make it in, maybe you get an infection and they're very low on penicillin and can't readily bring in more with the foreign government's blockade. so you may end up dying to a simple infection . what will you say about the blockade, "OH welp , that's the law" :lol:

 

[CDNBear]

tactics will probably change......

Excellent post Captain.

How much more international do those waters have to be?

Irrelevant.

I wonder what you would say if you lived in a tiny area and a foreign government came along and implemented a blockade.

Well, since I did live in a tiny area, and did have a blockade of sorts thrust upon me, I can relate. But then the world for me changed. The rights of my people were finally respected and we gained the upper hand of sorts.

Now when I see a "foreign Gov't" act against my people, I look at the people in leadership of my people and my people first. To make sure we aren't the cause of our own suffering or detriment to our own well being.

You want to hear something funny? We're oft the cause of our own problems.

Instead of usual 3 meals a day now due to lack of food coming in could only have 1 decent meal a day and you were starving the majority of the day.

But they can build Olympic sized swimming pools?

Also many necessary medical supplies couldn't make it in, maybe you get an infection and they're very low on penicillin and can't readily bring in more with the foreign government's blockade.

Maybe a community here in Canada with a severe drinking water problem can't get immediate aid, but we can send a water filtration system to the other side of the globe in 24 hours...Go figure, it's called life, it's hard, harsh and you really should get used to it.

"OH welp , that's the law" :lol:

Yes.

 

[captain morgan]

How much more international do those waters have to be?

Fine, tow 'em out to Antarctica then

I wonder what you would say if you lived in a tiny area and a foreign government came along and implemented a blockade. This blockade dictated how much food came in and other necessities. Instead of usual 3 meals a day now due to lack of food coming in could only have 1 decent meal a day and you were starving the majority of the day. Also many necessary medical supplies couldn't make it in, maybe you get an infection and they're very low on penicillin and can't readily bring in more with the foreign government's blockade. so you may end up dying to a simple infection . what will you say about the blockade, "OH welp , that's the law" :lol:

How would you feel if you lived in a tiny area wherein all your neighbours made public policy regarding the abject destruction of your state and every member of your religion and communicated that policy at every opportunity?

Really man, spare me the platitudes.

Excellent post Captain.

Thanks!

Well, since I did live in a tiny area, and did have a blockade of sorts thrust upon me, I can relate. But then the world for me changed. The rights of my people were finally respected and we gained the upper hand of sorts.

Now when I see a "foreign Gov't" act against my people, I look at the people in leadership of my people and my people first. To make sure we aren't the cause of our own suffering or detriment to our own well being.

I'm very much looking forward to the response to the above..... I'm sure that it'll be chock-full of reasons why your direct experience is irrelevant.

We'll see.

But they can build Olympic sized swimming pools?

Let's not forget the electric wheel chairs... They are a must for anyone that is starving!

 

[CDNBear]

I'm very much looking forward to the response to the above..... I'm sure that it'll be chock-full of reasons why your direct experience is irrelevant.

We'll see.

I wait with bated breath, lol.

Let's not forget the electric wheel chairs... They are a must for anyone that is starving!

I know, it must be just terrible. I mean how many Canadians live perfectly good lives without an electric wheelchair. Which is incorrect anyways, because the batteries were for electric scooters, like those Rascals. Not wheelchairs.

But hey, wheelchairs just sounds so much more pathetic and will win the hearts and minds of the half witted idiots, to stupid to actually read the facts.

 

[petros]

Let's not forget the electric wheel chairs... They are a must for anyone that is starving!

Isn't mobility all part of the American dream?

 

[CDNBear]

Isn't mobility all part of the American dream?

Yep, but not everyone can have a Rascal, lol.

 

[petros]

So how many iranian rockets did this UN (don't forget the Mossadamites) pre-inspected and supervised aid mission try to import?

 

[CDNBear]

So how many iranian rockets did this UN (don't forget the Mossadamites) pre-inspected and supervised aid mission try to import?

Irrelevant.

 

[petros]

How so? It has everything to do with it. The UN was a tag a long the entire time which means the Mossad were tag alongs the entire time. Which means boarding and inspection was unneccessary.

 

[MHz]

So, you are saying that if left on their own the people of Gaza would eventually work out their problems with Israel and that it is these outside so called international aid organizations that are causing the problems? Now that is a interesting concept.

You aren't comprehending very well, Israel's solution is the elimination of everything not envisioned by Lord Rothschild back in the 1880's, plain and simple. Palestinians know they are abandoned by the one who first stole their land and then denied them all the protections they were supposed to be given, plain and simple. It is no different than our treatment of the Indians, pound the **** out of them until they will allow themselves to surrender and then make them all sorts of promises (Peace Treaties)b and break those same treaties before the ink is dry. Our promoting ourselves as being more civilixed than taht is a fuking lie

Israel may not have the right to limit the amount of humanitarian aid, but they do have the right to limit or block what kind of aid is allowed. I also see no problem with Israel inspecting all ships going into and out of a Gaza port. But they must be allowed to inspect all vessels and aircraft.

But they aren't doing that, thay are taking possession and they have their own list that has some real fuked up logic in it as you have already posted.

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No, the so called humanitarians decided somebody was being serious and this is not a game.[/QUOTE]
Nobody is listening to the people from Gaza anymore, not eveybody has forgotten them, just the 33 nations that stole their land and gave it to the Rothschild clan. You would thinhn the world would be a little pissed at having two WW's to make that dream finally become a reality.
You don't even know who all the players are let a;lone how the game is played.

 

[Colpy]

I wonder what you would say if you lived in a tiny area and a foreign government came along and implemented a blockade. This blockade dictated how much food came in and other necessities. Instead of usual 3 meals a day now due to lack of food coming in could only have 1 decent meal a day and you were starving the majority of the day. Also many necessary medical supplies couldn't make it in, maybe you get an infection and they're very low on penicillin and can't readily bring in more with the foreign government's blockade. so you may end up dying to a simple infection . what will you say about the blockade, "OH welp , that's the law" :lol:

First of all, I might actually consider booting out the morons that run my country for the sole purpose of firing missiles at my neighbour.

Secondly....SHOW ME starving Palestinians. I mean, we get news reports of starvation from all over the world, horrible pictures of listless emaciated adults, children with protruding stomachs, the dead laying by the roadside........when I see Palestinians, they appear energetic, reasonably well-fed, healthy........I mean OVER a million tons of food aid has passed through Israel into Gaza in the past 18 months.......

Economic disaster in Gaza is a fact.

Starvation in Gaza is a lie....pure propaganda.

Third......I agree that there are some problems with the delivery of health services in Gaza.........sometimes people die before they get the treatment they are offered...in ISRAEL! Only the Israelis would treat their enemies for free in their hospitals.....and get pounded for not doing it enough!!!!8O

Quit drinking the purple kool-aid, and look around.

 

[petros]

MHz....The streets named after the Rothchilds in Israel are named after a complete and totally different Rothchild family. Didn't you know that?

 

[CDNBear]

How so? It has everything to do with it.

No it doesn't. It's a legal blockade. Whether they find contraband or not is irrelevant.

The UN was a tag a long the entire time which means the Mossad were tag alongs the entire time. Which means boarding and inspection was unneccessary.

Prove it.

You aren't comprehending very well

Quite, hence why you post all the legal rights Israel has, and the fact that they broke no laws, and still argue the fact, lol.

Israel's solution is the elimination of everything not envisioned by Lord Rothschild back in the 1880's, plain and simple.

Yet only 9 out of several hundred were killed. Your math skills, are as bad as your deductive reasoning skills.

But they aren't doing that, thay are taking possession and they have their own list that has some real fuked up logic in it as you have already posted.

Without any proof it's real, lol.

You don't even know who all the players are let a;lone how the game is played.

LMAO, make sure you use fresh tin foil every day, or they'll be able to steal your thoughts.

 

[petros]

Starvation in Gaza is a lie....pure propaganda.

The Haitians staved off starvation by eating mud pies. Does that makes life good? Canadians could live off tree bark too if we really really had to but would you consider it a good life especially if you knew that somebody was keeping nutritional food from reaching your lips? Would you really care if it were Zionists or Commies or Democrats doing this to you?

 

[clutch]

Excellent post Captain.

Irrelevant.

Well, since I did live in a tiny area, and did have a blockade of sorts thrust upon me, I can relate. But then the world for me changed. The rights of my people were finally respected and we gained the upper hand of sorts.

Now when I see a "foreign Gov't" act against my people, I look at the people in leadership of my people and my people first. To make sure we aren't the cause of our own suffering or detriment to our own well being.

You want to hear something funny? We're oft the cause of our own problems.

But they can build Olympic sized swimming pools?

Maybe a community here in Canada with a severe drinking water problem can't get immediate aid, but we can send a water filtration system to the other side of the globe in 24 hours...Go figure, it's called life, it's hard, harsh and you really should get used to it.
Yes.

no , you aren't being truthful. you aren't being truthful because it wouldn't be in your interest in this argument, that's ok. you just look insane by advocating the blockade which starves and deprives Gazans because it's "legal".

 

[petros]

Quote: The UN was a tag a long the entire time which means the Mossad were tag alongs the entire time. Which means boarding and inspection was unneccessary.

Prove it.

No no no no you can't asshole your way out of it. You prove to all of us it's not true.