Is the phrase "In God We Trust" and the pledge a endorsement of religion?

AnnaG

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Dead wrong, sorry. If you read any of the Qu'ran, you'd notice that they say different things about their god than the Christians say about theirs. The Hindu have many gods, so obviously they think there's a difference. No, all gods are not the same.
 

AnnaG

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You just can't post without squeezing in some derision, can you?
... And here I thought that this issue was about having the words "In God We Trust" carved on the exterior of a gvt building. Ofcourse, when there is no basis fro rebuttal, the response of vastly altered in order to make a failed point....A predictable response from a pretender.
And you pretend to be human. So?

Think long and hard about re-reading the OP (I'll assume you or your handler can read) and tell me exactly where the focal point changes to the Lord's Prayer.
To use your own words, "Open your eyes", it was an example.
 

Ron in Regina

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petros

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The "In God We Trust" is a relatively newer addition to the currency. If it were a long standing tradition it may hold vailidity as a keeper but it's not.
 

Ron in Regina

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The "In God We Trust" is a relatively newer addition to the currency. If it were a long standing tradition it may hold vailidity as a keeper but it's not.


I'm not overly religious, and as long as a coin was still Legal Tender,
I'd be content with having "Pull My Finger" engraved on it.
 

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The Christian God can be easily pictured as virtually the same as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, evil and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed, beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of the people who say they serve him. The are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites."
-- Thomas Jefferson


"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."
-- James Madison

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man"
-- Thomas Jefferson
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An insight from at a little known but legal document written in the late 1700s explicitly reveals the secular nature of the U.S. goverenment to a foreign nation.

Officially called the "Treaty of peace and friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli, of Barbary," most refer to it as simply the Treaty of Tripoli. In Article 11, it states:
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
 

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Dead wrong, sorry. If you read any of the Qu'ran, you'd notice that they say different things about their god than the Christians say about theirs. The Hindu have many gods, so obviously they think there's a difference. No, all gods are not the same.


Allah is the one God, God is Allah. Ni difference.


The concept of Buddhism refutes the idea of a God, who throws the sinners into everlasting torments. In fact, the Buddhists believe in the existence of an Enlightened being, who vows to save all sentient beings from their sufferings. The concept of enlightenment is principally concerned with developing a method to escape from the illusions of the materialistic world. According to the Buddhist ideology, anyone can enlighten himself by undertaking a method of mental discipline and a code of conduct.

http://www.buddhist-tourism.com/buddhism/god-in-buddhism.html


Yes, Buddaism does have many gods, but the are lower than the Enlightened Being.
 

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"In God we trust" is a corruption of the original "Ingot wheat rust" stamped on the subsidy cheques sent by the American Federal Government to grain farmers.
 
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Perhaps to reflect the religious history of the US, the engraving should say "We Kill Anybody Who Does Not Believe in Our God".
 

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Yes, of course. It's only atheists that object. Whatever you say. lmao

Ironsides, if the US actually did believe in its own constitution, US money would also have, "In Allah we trust" printed in Muslim languages, "in (list of Hundu gods) we trust" listed in Hindi", etc. or else there would be no religiosity on anything used by the general public.

In the news, it wasn't that long ago that there was consternation by Muslims and others about Muslim children and others being subjected to the lord's prayer at schools. It isn't in schools anymore. Yup, I should open my eyes perhaps, but you, morgan, should sometimes shut up and open your ears and mind.

In God We Trust: All Others Pay Cash

Yes, but the coins would have to be a foot wide.