Is penal labour acceptable?

[Cliffy]

"A man with a brief case can steal more money than any man with a gun" - Don Henley

White collar crime causes far more damage to society than any other crime but do we imprison these crooks? No, we give them bailouts at taxpayers expense.

 

[captain morgan]

What is the societal norm? Theft is a brain disorder. Look it up. Normal people don't steal do they?

Normal people don't act on the idea, everyone has thought about it.

 

[petros]

Normal people don't act on the idea, everyone has thought about it.

BINGO!!! Some brains don't know how to say no. That is a psych issue. Thanks for agreeing.

 

[YukonJack]

It wouldn't be jail that helped them. It would be their conscience that turns them around. The human brain is where every single crime on the planet has originated from.

Some brains know how to say no, others don't.

It's all 100% in the wiring.

Some convicts may have been convicted with the full agreement of the mental health community, either for the prosecution or the defense as hopeless psychopaths. Yet, after conviction they managed to get their brains together and make good of a hopeless situation. What you read (if you bother to read it) in the following might change your mind, unless of course it is wired to be unchangeble:

http://communications.uwaterloo.ca/.../University education in prisons near extinct

 

[captain morgan]

"A man with a brief case can steal more money than any man with a gun" - Don Henley

"You can go a long way with a smile. You can go a lot farther with a smile and a gun." - Al Capone

White collar crime causes far more damage to society than any other crime but do we imprison these crooks? No, we give them bailouts at taxpayers expense.

Tell that to Conrad Black or Martha Stewart

 

[petros]

Some convicts may have been convicted with the full agreement of the mental health community, either for the prosecution or the defense as hopeless psychopaths. Yet, after conviction they managed to get their brains together and make good of a hopeless situation. What you read (if you bother to read it) in the following might change your mind, unless of course it is wired to be unchangeble:

http://communications.uwaterloo.ca/Gazette/1995/Gazette,%20December%2013,%201995/University%20education%20in%20prisons%20near%20extinct

Yeah being sent to criminal psych facility. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[captain morgan]

BINOGO!!! Some brains don't know how to say no. That is a psych issue. Thanks for agreeing.

Nope... Everyone makes choices everyday and 99.99% of the people in prison realize that there is a possible consequence to their actions... And make no mistake, they fully understand that they are taking on a level of risk to achieve a specific reqard.

 

[petros]

And they didn't stop themselves 99.9% of the time why?

 

[captain morgan]

Yeah being sent to criminal psych facility. Thanks for pointing that out.

I see... So Black and Stewart were in fact bailed-out by going to prison.

Gotcha

 

[Cliffy]

"You can go a long way with a smile. You can go a lot farther with a smile and a gun." - Al Capone



Tell that to Conrad Black or Martha Stewart

Token whities that fell from grace with the power elite. Martha is back in the groove, Conrad didn't learn to kowtow enough yet, but he'll be back. I'm sure he is learning to grovel in prison (among other skills).

 

[petros]

I see... So Black and Stewart were in fact bailed-out by going to prison.

Gotcha

Black still hasn't admitted guilt has he? That is a brain issue. Thanks again.

 

[JLM]

"A man with a brief case can steal more money than any man with a gun" - Don Henley

White collar crime causes far more damage to society than any other crime but do we imprison these crooks? No, we give them bailouts at taxpayers expense.

Tell that to Sir Lord Black. :lol:

 

[captain morgan]

Token whities that fell from grace with the power elite. Martha is back in the groove, Conrad didn't learn to kowtow enough yet, but he'll be back. I'm sure he is learning to grovel in prison (among other skills).

C'mon Cliffy, you can do better than that.

BTW - I couldn't agree more on the premise that Connie hasn't learned to at least pretend that he is sorry.... Our society is founded on the notion going through the motions of saying the right things to the right people.

Black still hasn't admitted guilt has he? That is a brain issue. Thanks again.

Thanks for what?.. Punching more holes in your argument?

In that case, you are more than welcome!

 

[YukonJack]

Black still hasn't admitted guilt has he? That is a brain issue. Thanks again.

POS, Conrad Black is anxiously awaiting to admit that he is guilty. He just wants to see the example set by you.

 

[petros]

Thanks for what?.. Punching more holes in your argument?

In that case, you are more than welcome!

Has black ever admitted being guilty. Yes or no? Do you think he is guilty? Our courts sure as **** do because he is guilty. Why doesn't he see himself as guilty?

POS, Conrad Black is anxiously awaiting to admit that he is guilty. He just wants to see the example set by you.

He is eager to admit it it eh Pukon Jerk?

 

[YukonJack]

Has black ever admitted being guilty. Yes or no? Do you think he is guilty? Our courts sure as **** do because he is guilty. Why doesn't he see himself as guilty?

"OUR COURTS"?

Is Chicago OURS now?

Has black ever admitted being guilty. Yes or no? Do you think he is guilty? Our courts sure as **** do because he is guilty. Why doesn't he see himself as guilty?

He is eager to admit it it eh Pukon Jerk?

I am sure he will as soon as you EVER admit being wrong, POS.

 

[JLM]

Has black ever admitted being guilty. Yes or no? Do you think he is guilty? Our courts sure as **** do because he is guilty. Why doesn't he see himself as guilty?

QUOTE]

He just figures he's broken the laws for the poor, but not the ones for the rich! :lol:

 

[petros]

"OUR COURTS"?

Is Chicago OURS now?



I am sure he will as soon as you EVER admit being wrong, POS.

Why do you keep calling me Point Of Sale? Yup. When a Canadian can be carted off to the courts in the US without commiting a crime in Canada, Yup. Chicago or Seattle it's all one big happy family now.

Has black ever admitted being guilty. Yes or no? Do you think he is guilty? Our courts sure as **** do because he is guilty. Why doesn't he see himself as guilty?

QUOTE]

He just figures he's broken the laws for the poor, but not the ones for the rich! :lol:

Do you see that as a psychological problem or a societal one?

 

[captain morgan]

Has black ever admitted being guilty. Yes or no? Do you think he is guilty? Our courts sure as **** do because he is guilty. Why doesn't he see himself as guilty?

Connie is no different than every other inmate... You wanna talk to an innocent man, the jails are filled with them.

 

[JLM]

Why do you keep calling me Point Of Sale? Yup. When a Canadian can be carted off to the courts in the US without commiting a crime in Canada, Yup. Chicago or Seattle it's all one big happy family now.

Do you see that as a psychological problem or a societal one?

Psychological for sure!