Is it moral for God to punish us?

[AnnaG]

Good for you.


Hint to "who was actually the worst, Jehovah or Satan."


Count the bodies. Satan has a few, Jehovah has them by the ton.


Regards
DL

Done, DL, but there is more to good and evil than just killing. According to accounts, even though this god isn't the brightest bulb in the pack, it is fairly straightforward and says it is a jealous, angry type and stuff, whereas Satan is apparently a liar and sleazy SOB. I just prefer not having anything to do with either.

 

[Jinentonix]

Done, SL, but there is more to good and evil than just killing. According to accounts, even though this god isn't the brightest bulb in the pack, it is fairly straightforward and says it is a jealous, angry type and stuff, whereas Satan is apparently a liar and sleazy SOB. I just prefer not having anything to do with either.

Especially considering God supposedly created Satan despite supposedly knowing what the future would bring.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Especially considering God supposedly created Satan despite supposedly knowing what the future would bring.

Shoot, boy, that's nothing. You wanna hate god, just take a good look at the Kardashians.

 

[Danbones]

Jesus did die, I'm pretty sure that was covered in the book version.

so much for the claim of immortal life
would it be wise to buy a vacume cleaner from a guy with that kind of track record?
im suprised he isn't also pushing perpetual motion

 

[French Patriot]

I will never understand the logic of railing against an entity that one contends does not exist.

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Then you have no sense of social justice or consciousness.

Change the labels in this quote to women, minorities, gays or children being brainwashed by religions and it shows what we should be thinking and doing for each other.

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)”

Regards
DL




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Jesus did die, I'm pretty sure that was covered in the book version.

Then he could not be God. God cannot die.


Regards
DL

 

[AnnaG]

Are you lost? 'No.'

You are typing in CanCon. 'Yes'

Now you are found. 'Always was'

erm Unless you have been lost, you cannot be found. It's kind of like a balance thing. Unless there is "evil", "good" has no meaning.

 

[Ludlow]

I will never understand the logic of railing against an entity that one contends does not exist.


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Like a politician. Promoting his own beliefs at the expense of tearing down another's. I guess sometimes a lot of us do that to one degree or another. But in all reality, if one is happy in their faith, there's no reason to try to tear it down other than to feed your own ego. Beliefs are a personal thing. Not necessarily to be shared by everyone.

 

[AnnaG]

You could always foil His plan by being the first person to refuse to die.

Or do as others have before, if possible, I will ignore the creep and go hang with a more pleasant god or goddess.

 

[French Patriot]

Done, SL, but there is more to good and evil than just killing. According to accounts, even though this god isn't the brightest bulb in the pack, it is fairly straightforward and says it is a jealous, angry type and stuff, whereas Satan is apparently a liar and sleazy SOB. I just prefer not having anything to do with either.

SOB?


Look up the Vatican's Eden painting by Michelangelo.


You will see that the church decided to vilify women by making Satan into a female.


Further, to the Jews, Ha-satan was a rather helpful tool for God and was chosen because he or she was God's best.


What the Christian church did is just another part of their institutionalized misogyny.


The church also put another subliminal message into that painting. Do not turn Eves head.


Satan thus cannot be an SOB. She can be a DOB.


Regards
DL

 

[AnnaG]

I will never understand the logic of railing against an entity that one contends does not exist.

It is no different than swearing at a stupid tv ad.

 

[French Patriot]

Especially considering God supposedly created Satan despite supposedly knowing what the future would bring.

Yes. Good things to the Jewish version of Eden as our place of elevation and growth into maturity but quite evil and stupid from the fall perspective that Christianity invented to vilify women and the serpent cults that were all over the Middle East and the known world of that day.


Regards
DL

 

[AnnaG]

Especially considering God supposedly created Satan despite supposedly knowing what the future would bring.

I know. I have brought that up many times to various people, but the reply is usually stuuf like "God is testing us", "God is teaching us a lesson", and other general and vague replies. If nothing else, the cult has built-in subleties of non-sequiturs and other fallacious arguments that are at times slippery and other times almost invisible.
We are supposed to have faith that it makes sense. lol But as hubby would say, faith is simply the hope that whatever you believe is true, is actually true.

 

[darkbeaver]

Like a politician. Promoting his own beliefs at the expense of tearing down another's. I guess sometimes a lot of us do that to one degree or another. But in all reality, if one is happy in their faith, there's no reason to try to tear it down other than to feed your own ego. Beliefs are a personal thing. Not necessarily to be shared by everyone.

How does a personal belief become a crusade against those who have Islam as a personal belief? Yes I 'm questioning this personal belief thing you mention. It seems a bit to organized to be only a personal belief and the shared values seem a bit too widespread to be personal values and the whole thing is available at drive through outlets so it seems to be nothing other than a comon packaged commodity to sooth the minds of common consumers. A personal belief is impossible to share with others. How would someone arrive at a personal belief held already by billions of living and dead?

 

[French Patriot]

How does a personal belief become a crusade against those who have Islam as a personal belief? Yes I 'm questioning this personal belief thing you mention. It seems a bit to organized to be only a personal belief and the shared values seem a bit too widespread to be personal values and the whole thing is available at drive through outlets so it seems to be nothing other than a comon packaged commodity to sooth the minds of common consumers. A personal belief is impossible to share with others.

You just did, did you not?


Or was what you said not a personal belief?


If it was not your personal belief then whose belief was it?

Regards
DL

 

[AnnaG]

SOB?

Look up the Vatican's Eden painting by Michelangelo.


You will see that the church decided to vilify women by making Satan into a female.


Further, to the Jews, Ha-satan was a rather helpful tool for God and was chosen because he or she was God's best.


What the Christian church did is just another part of their institutionalized misogyny.


The church also put another subliminal message into that painting. Do not turn Eves head.


Satan thus cannot be an SOB. She can be a DOB.


Regards
DL

potayto potahto.

 

[darkbeaver]

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Or was what you said not a personal belief?

Is it possible to have a personal belief or thought for that matter?
When I was born with a personal brain I can assure you I had no personal ideas of God beyond the breasts that I worshiped.

If it was not your personal belief then whose belief was it?

Regards

It is and was borrowed thinking of individuals who previously examined similar questions.

 

[French Patriot]

potayto potahto.

Not to Christian women who seek equality in our free country band are tired of their church making them second class citizens.


Think of your sisters and do unto them.


Regards
DL

Even though I may not agree with another's faith, I probably should be at least a little keen on the fact that their faith could be the foundation of their lives. A lot of times I'm insensitive to that and that Is wrong. If a person is happy in what they believe , as long as it is not harmful to others, who the hell am I to try and tear it down. If there is something out there that is good, they don't need my help. I'm sure things will eventually work out. Maybe we can make a more positive difference in the world, not so much in what we have to say, but more in what we do not say. That goes for yours truly as well.

For the evil I showed to grow, all you need do is say nothing.


Do unto others who are being victimized by religions.


Regards
DL

 

[EagleSmack]

Is it moral to drink whole milk?

Do unto others who are being victimized by religions.


Regards
DL

Nice post up top you idiot.

 

[Ludlow]

Is it moral to drink whole milk?



Nice post up top you idiot.

depends on if you're lactose intolerant.

 

[Locutus]

French Patriot: learn to post and not muddy a thread with insane embedded youtube links or we will continue to delete posts. okeedokee?

regards. Loc.