I have no problems except here.
I have been taking the s out of links but your system only works on some of them.
Your bad. Not mine. But do as you like of course.
Regards
DL
Is it moral for God to punish us?
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I have no problems except here.
I have been taking the s out of links but your system only works on some of them.
Your bad. Not mine. But do as you like of course.
Regards
DL
lol I feel that I am one to talk, though, because I was raised to be RC. (I since exed the church and it exed me in reply).
Men like yourself have been running your mouth since the dawn of civilization. Probably why the world is the way it is. Maybe if the know it all's shut their trap for awhile, things will improve. Let someone else have a say. In that sense, saying nothing may be more productive than the continued jaw flapping which accomplishes nothing.
We have no problems with anyone and their copy and paste antics save for you. It is what it is but it won't be here as it fukks up thread viewing for our members. And thanks, we will do what we need to whether deleting posts or giving you a vacation. Either way I'll sleep well.
All women in all misogynous religions should be as lucky.
If more men were moral, more women would be in your position.
Men have forgotten the meaning of the words duty and honor and women do not seem to be teaching them those terms and demanding the respect due them.
Things have progressed but not nearly enough.
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DL
In your case, I agree.
Let people with morals speak while you remain quiet and things will be better.
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DL
I just don't feel you're qualified Wilbur. Too hung up on yourself.
oh,,,and uh,,,regards,,JR
I'm recalling a confucianist quote I heard several years ago. "A woman ruler is like a hen crowing". That mindset has been present in most religions and cultures for thousands of years. Maybe It's because I was the only boy born to my parents in a family of 6. Or maybe it's because I am the father of three daughters. Whatever the reason, as I read about history , I find that the sentiment that the Ladies are to walk a step or two behind the pricks, to be bullshyt. Maybe I lean to the extreme in the opposite direction but I feel just the opposite should be the way things be.
T he man walks in front to clear and smooth the path and confront any danger to his women first so that nothing happens to his women and his get. If it were left to you two candy boys the race would have ended some time ago. You are confusing position with priority. But if your woman is stupid enough to enter the dark cave, forest, alley, staircase ahead of you, who cares.
The atheist insists that God does not exist; how can this be true? Don't you see all this existence? Don't you see the plant: the tree with its roots; the animal moving, man thinking, the sight, the hearing ... all this come haphazardly and spontaneously. It can't be.
So all of you were born, and will die and no God .. no Next Life? All people will die, and that's it?
God is certainly existing more than the existence of the existence itself.
On the other hand: God punishes yes, but He also rewards.
If God does not punish, then all people will be equal in the outcome in the Next Life: the wrong-doer and the good-doer will be equal because no reward no punishment but only disappearance and becoming energy as Talloola says.
God here as a parable only and as an example: He is like the king or the ruler .. the ruler will not punish the murderer, the thief, the raper, the transgressor? How can this be?
So God - be glorified - punishes yes and He rewards and He forgives for the believer who consecrates his devotion to Him alone, while He will punish the wrong-doer.
The wrong-doer will come to the Next Life as a disbeliever.
Of course the Next Life will be spiritual: the spirit or soul is the true man and the soul will be requited and taken to account; while the body is like an old torn suit which you will discard.
So all of you were born, and will die and no God .. no Next Life? All people will die, and that's it?
God is certainly existing more than the existence of the existence itself.
On the other hand: God punishes yes, but He also rewards.
If God does not punish, then all people will be equal in the outcome in the Next Life: the wrong-doer and the good-doer will be equal because no reward no punishment but only disappearance and becoming energy as Talloola says.
God here as a parable only and as an example: He is like the king or the ruler .. the ruler will not punish the murderer, the thief, the raper, the transgressor? How can this be?
So God - be glorified - punishes yes and He rewards and He forgives for the believer who consecrates his devotion to Him alone, while He will punish the wrong-doer.
The wrong-doer will come to the Next Life as a disbeliever.
Of course the Next Life will be spiritual: the spirit or soul is the true man and the soul will be requited and taken to account; while the body is like an old torn suit which you will discard.
yes that's why women weren't allowed to vote in my country until 1920. Justify it any way you wish it's horse shyt always has been.
So your wife has to clear the path for you and protect you from the perils of the forest.
Allowing both parties in a marriage to vote has contributed very signifigantly to divorce.
Voting is hardy the same as protecting and escorting is it?
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Has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Not married anymore but we were a team. But maybe you're right. Been a male dominated world for a long time. That's why things are so harmonious. I'm sure it will just keep getting better
Yes I know but what you are talking about and what you did commit to print are at odds. You specifically mentioned position in a walking arangement and I properly outlined the historical necessity for said position. I'm not married anymore either we made great children but poor conversation. I'm not very serious here most of the time and don't often bother to make that clear.
That's okay. Obviously I'm not an expert on relationships either. I could have done better, our only disagreement would be that you think the Lady should walk two steps behind the man. I believe they should walk side by side. Only wish I could have thought this way as a young man. But, hindsight is 20/20.Yes I know but what you are talking about and what you did commit to print are at odds. You specifically mentioned position in a walking arangement and I properly outlined the historical necessity for said position. I'm not married anymore either we made great children but poor conversation. I'm not very serious here most of the time and don't often bother to make that clear.
The pendulum swings to extremes. The way I see it is that there should be an equilibrium. Like my marriage. My hubby and I are a partnership. We act as one. We are not two people in a marriage, we are a marriage of two people.
And, you buck-toothed, paddle-tailed furball, women generally have better reflexes can stand pain better than men. The only thing men have that women are a bit lacking in is physical strength and bulk. But there are ways around those limitations. =)
Mind you, if hubby wants to stick his face into a "dark alley" first, I have no problem with it. hehehe
Any miracle working creator God would always create for the best possible end of what he creates.
If all he can do is created something he has to condemn and punish then he is an incompetent creator.
A king will punish a criminal to protect his other subjects. A God in heaven has no one to protect, hense the type of thinking shown in theses quotes.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
God is said to be omnipotent. That word is described in part as meaning that God has infinite powers of persuasion.
With those, he would never not be able to save a soul.
Man may need to punish but if God does, that means he is the failure and not what he is said to create.
That is also why thinkers can say what is below.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html
Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."
Please listen as to what is said about literal reading.
"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."
If anyone is not saved, then God is an incompetent creator.
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DL
I do remember someone saying, " The two shall become one". Too bad that one was over looked.