Is Canada ready for the coming electric vehicle revolution?

taxslave

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Bragging? That would infer that I am in charge of the electric car revolution. I'm just pointing out that a few years ago electric cars were a novelty. Now every major car manufacturer has at least one model in the process of being built and dozens of minor companies have come out of the woodwork with their own electric versions.

As to cost - that is already being achieved through the process of mass production. Electric car prices are dropping an will continue to drop. In addition electric cars are cheaper to maintain and to fuel, so even if an electric car seems more expensive it probably isn't. This will be bad news for a lot of dealerships that rely on customers bringing their cars back for tune ups and oil changes - electric cars don't need either of those, but that is an unfortunate side-effect of change. There are winners and losers in every major technological change.

The Bottom Line On Electric Cars: They're Cheaper To Own

https://www.forbes.com/sites/consta...tric-cars-theyre-cheaper-to-own/#2afe66aa10b6


As for charging stations I doubt it will take very long for gas station owners to install charging systems once they realize there is a market for them. And there are already home charging systems available for electric cars so I don't really see a problem with making more of them.


As for subsidies I expect you realize the auto industry has always been subsidized as has the oil industry. In way way it makes sense to subsidize electric cars in order to cut down on pollution since internal combustion engines are a real health problem whether the auto industry wants to admit it or not. Cleaner air simply means healthier citizens and lower health care costs, fewer days of work missed, and so on.

So, when it comes to money and brains I would say that the real money is on electric cars.



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Then way are home car chargers being sold? Changing the amperage level to handle electric cars isn't exactly rocket science. Here, you can get one from these guys.

https://www.plugndrive.ca/product/elmec-evduty-evc30-nema-6-50/

What I am seeing so far as the electric cars is a lot of old fogey type opposition. In other worlds some people are so conservative they oppose electric vehicles because they simply can't handle change. The same anti-electric car arguments being trotted out were around 20 years ago, but guess what there are more electric cars than ever and more still one the way. It is a major technological revolution being pushed by improved electric engines, improved batteries, and a desire for cleaner air, and the improvements are far from over. There are at least a score of batteries currently being researched and I suspect that the electric motor will continue to become lighter and more powerful.

Just to give you an idea or how many potentially new batteries are on the horizon check this out.

Future batteries, coming soon: Charge in seconds, last months and power over the air


https://www.pocket-lint.com/gadgets...in-seconds-last-months-and-power-over-the-air


Of course, I realize some of the ultra-conservatives don't trust articles from tech websites, but they do trust Forbes so then there is this one:

Samsung Battery Tech Breakthrough Could Revolutionize Smartphones And Electric Vehicles

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antony...artphones-and-electric-vehicles/#6a79489e5a6f

Best you learn basic electricity before making yourself look so stupid.I'll give you a hint-amperage delivered is directly related to wire size. Now see if you can figure out where the problem lies.
 

petros

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All electric and hybrids by all manufacturers combined equals 4 days of F150s production

They aren't cheaper to charge and maintain when battery life is 5 years and has a carbon foot print equal to 8 years of using gasoline.

Gasoline is 33% more efficient.

After 8 years you'll have to blow $200 on sparkplugs and sensors.

That is far cheaper than a $5000 battery.

All electric and hybrids by all manufacturers combined equals 4 days of F150s production

They aren't cheaper to charge and maintain when battery life is 5 years and has a carbon foot print equal to 8 years of using gasoline.

Gasoline is 33% more efficient.

After 8 years you'll have to blow $200 on sparkplugs and sensors.

That is far cheaper than a $5000 battery.

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taxslave

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The lithium battery is not the end of the line. It is just the latest stop.

Battery technology is going to change the world and one of the ways it will do that is by redefining what oil is worth.

Well by your theories gas will be dirt cheap since there will be no market which of course makes gas or diesel that much more desirable.
 

petros

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Well by your theories gas will be dirt cheap since there will be no market which of course makes gas or diesel that much more desirable.

Coal for graphene and graphite and of course steel is a solid investment.

Stellar. I started buying TSX venture coal mining companies last year

Up 40%.

5 X shares for less than a cup of coffee.
 

petros

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Both and graphite.

Lignite that has had the humic acid removed can be used and the humic is in super high demand for agriculture.

It supercharges dirt in the first step of making soil.

Lignin is plant cells.

Shit, almost forgot the coal gas and captured solvent grade CO2 from processing lignite to graphite to graphene.
 
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petros

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Labour costs have put any hopes of that to rest.

Shutdown prices hit yesterday. We are at $1.20L for name brand.

I bet they'd love to see that price in Vancouver.
 

petros

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Just bypass the line by hitting the duty free at the Pacific Crossing and pay the taxes for the six pack. Takes all of 15 minutes.
 

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Labour costs have put any hopes of that to rest.

Shutdown prices hit yesterday. We are at $1.20L for name brand.

I bet they'd love to see that price in Vancouver.
1.49 to 1.54 around Vancouver 1.39 in Hope yesterday and 1.29 in Kelowna..
 

spilledthebeer

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Yet another problem the subsidized electric car crowd either glosses over or doesn't understand is the amount of amperage required for rapid charge stations. The vast majority of houses and all apartment buildings simply are not equipped with the required electrical supply to maintain rapid chargers. Quite probably in the majority of neighbourhoods the distribution system isn't adequate to have everyone on rapid charge at the same time.

Oh- so sorry- LIE-berals DO HAVE A PLAN for that charging requirement- they are going to get rich on the sales tax they charge for electricians to re-wire all manner of buildings! Think of all that work and all that revenue! Think of how busy city inspectors will be examining and approving those charging stations!

Why govt Hogs involved in electric car biz might be snowed under by the demand for their "services"- that would allow LIE-berals to hire even more civil service union Hogs because hey- the ENTIRE electrical system- from start to finish is now a LIE-beral slush fund!

LIE-berals jumped the shark in 2017 when they bought into that Yankee power generating corporation- the one that is STILL BURNING COAL- you know- that fuel that LIE-berals refuse to use in Ontari-owe! And even better- that Yankee power company that idiot LIE-berals bought into is in the middle of a massive pollution lawsuit- that they are slowly losing and the cleanup will cost billions!

Oh well- its only OUR MONEY they are wasting?
 

taxslave

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Oh- so sorry- LIE-berals DO HAVE A PLAN for that charging requirement- they are going to get rich on the sales tax they charge for electricians to re-wire all manner of buildings! Think of all that work and all that revenue! Think of how busy city inspectors will be examining and approving those charging stations!

Why govt Hogs involved in electric car biz might be snowed under by the demand for their "services"- that would allow LIE-berals to hire even more civil service union Hogs because hey- the ENTIRE electrical system- from start to finish is now a LIE-beral slush fund!

LIE-berals jumped the shark in 2017 when they bought into that Yankee power generating corporation- the one that is STILL BURNING COAL- you know- that fuel that LIE-berals refuse to use in Ontari-owe! And even better- that Yankee power company that idiot LIE-berals bought into is in the middle of a massive pollution lawsuit- that they are slowly losing and the cleanup will cost billions!

Oh well- its only OUR MONEY they are wasting?

Still doesn't resolve the distribution problem. You can put as big of wires you want in the house but if the distribution system isn't up to the extra load there will be brownouts at best and equipment damage at worst.